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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:27:56 GMT
Public opinion is rather volatile which is one of the reasons I don't like referenda. Do you think we should have a referendum on rejoining the EU? Certainly not yet, but I see no other answer to the 2016 referendum. Unless as back in in 1973 the UK economy is falling back so badly against the EU economy that no alternative exists. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 25, 2023 16:29:10 GMT
There have always been extremes of weather and always will be. Yes, I think everyone knows that including me. Can you point to the last time the present weather patterns happened ? And what the level of man made green house gases were at that time ? Not quite what you are asking but: Winter 1947, winter 1963 and Ordovician Period c425million years ago when at one point CO2 was extremely high but with freezing temperatures. The whole period caused mass extinction and probably the course of evolution; instead of man evolving we could have just been left with old fossils. I know someone will be along to issue corrections due to their obsessions. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:30:15 GMT
You start off with an attack on Starmer and then give a highly recommendable assessment of his past. 'Highly recommendable' LOL
Tell ye what by fuck we're in bigger trouble than I even imagined, if you think some high flying tax sponging human rights lawyer is spending OUR money protecting the RIGHTS of criminals, then we are well and truly F U C K E D.
He was defending the Law and the rights of the innocents. That's what a good defense Lawyer does. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 25, 2023 16:35:22 GMT
Do you think we should have a referendum on rejoining the EU? Certainly not yet, but I see no other answer to the 2016 referendum. Unless as back in in 1973 the UK economy is falling back so badly against the EU economy that no alternative exists. Not 'yet'! You said you didn't like referendums, do you or don't you? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:37:34 GMT
Yes, I think everyone knows that including me. Can you point to the last time the present weather patterns happened ? And what the level of man made green house gases were at that time ? Not quite what you are asking but: Winter 1947, winter 1963 and Ordovician Period c425million years ago when at one point CO2 was extremely high but with freezing temperatures. The whole period caused mass extinction and probably the course of evolution; instead of man evolving we could have just been left with old fossils. I know someone will be along to issue corrections due to their obsessions. Yes, my father who was a brickie in 1947 spoke of the snow levels. I was a victim of the 1963/64 winter. Co2 levels of the far past were not man made. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 25, 2023 16:39:10 GMT
'Highly recommendable' LOL
Tell ye what by fuck we're in bigger trouble than I even imagined, if you think some high flying tax sponging human rights lawyer is spending OUR money protecting the RIGHTS of criminals, then we are well and truly F U C K E D.
He was defending the Law and the rights of the innocents. That's what a good defense Lawyer does. 'Human Rights Lawyer's' they protect the laws for 'illegal criminal migrants', they do all they can to stop them being deported, and the only motivation for them is MONEY.
If Starmer and his cronies weren't being paid for their services these illegal criminal migrants would have been fucked off from whence they came immediately.
Human Rights Lawyers = draining the UK tax payers, that is all they are interested in, they couldn't give two fucks for the rights of humans, their lust is for MONEY.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2023 16:44:11 GMT
Oh dear Clinton was INCORRECT....What makes the usal head tolls opinion better than anyone elss?
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Post by Toreador on Jan 25, 2023 16:46:29 GMT
Not quite what you are asking but: Winter 1947, winter 1963 and Ordovician Period c425million years ago when at one point CO2 was extremely high but with freezing temperatures. The whole period caused mass extinction and probably the course of evolution; instead of man evolving we could have just been left with old fossils. I know someone will be along to issue corrections due to their obsessions. Yes, my father who was a brickie in 1947 spoke of the snow levels. I was a victim of the 1963/64 winter. Co2 levels of the far past were not man made.But it illustrates that CO2 doesn't cause rising temperatures. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:46:39 GMT
Certainly not yet, but I see no other answer to the 2016 referendum. Unless as back in in 1973 the UK economy is falling back so badly against the EU economy that no alternative exists. Not 'yet'! You said you didn't like referendums, do you or don't you? Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 25, 2023 16:49:06 GMT
Not 'yet'! You said you didn't like referendums, do you or don't you? Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. Though I'm no admirer of Thatcher, she stayed in office because Labour couldn't win enough seats; something Starmer may have to suffer. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 25, 2023 16:50:10 GMT
Not 'yet'! You said you didn't like referendums, do you or don't you? Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. LOL, excellent. You don't like referendums, but you want another. You're a typical remainiac. You advocate endless referendums until the desired result is achieved. Get in the bin. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:53:41 GMT
Yes, my father who was a brickie in 1947 spoke of the snow levels. I was a victim of the 1963/64 winter. Co2 levels of the far past were not man made.But it illustrates that CO2 doesn't cause rising temperatures. If it was present then, there is no way of determining whether or not it played a part in rising temperatures at that time. There is no evidence as too whether it played a part in climate change either then or now. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 16:56:59 GMT
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. Though I'm no admirer of Thatcher, she stayed in office because Labour couldn't win enough seats; something Starmer may have to suffer. IMO she stayed in office because Pro-Thatcher propaganda ensured that she did. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2023 16:58:49 GMT
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. LOL, excellent. You don't like referendums, but you want another. You're a typical remainiac. You advocate endless referendums until the desired result is achieved. Get in the bin. That's the problem mate with these lefty remaniac wankers. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 17:01:43 GMT
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted that I saw no option to the 2016 referendum than to counter it with another Referendum. That doesn't mean I like referendum, I don't. Any electorate that can keep Thatcher in office many years after her sell by date, is not grown up enough to be relied upon for serious decisions about the future of the UK. LOL, excellent. You don't like referendums, but you want another. You're a typical remainiac. You advocate endless referendums until the desired result is achieved. Get in the bin. Your bias is in full control of your brain, try being objective for a change. Instead of starting with a lie, tell me how you think the 2016 referendum could be overturned if the the UK economy showed that it was a necessity to do so ?? |
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