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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 17:34:02 GMT
Stop this bullshit. Comprehensives have been around since 1967. As too has the increasing numbers of people going to universities. And what a bonus a university education is these days. Study burger technology for 2 years, leave university with a poor degree and thousands of pounds of debt, and still end up working at Tesco. Brilliant. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 14, 2023 17:34:05 GMT
Then your school itself was shit , not the system . Our grammar school streamed the pupils after the first year, The two A classes were educated to the highest level The B classes were educated according to the pupils abilities. Plenty of my friends in the B streams became Engineers, lawyers, Architects etc . My school was a very odd place. It produced both Roger Moore and Dominic Raab. I think the headmaster though set the standards. He was a very sophisticated and educated man, but in no way what you could call a moderniser - more a bit of an English eccentric. It wasn't a bad punt. These comprehensives and what most schools are now I feel are soulless institutions. The school I was at had run for 400 years. I can't speak for the whole country. It was just the experience of my area. We had two other ‘ local’ Grammar / high schools . They were single sex schools and seemingly hard to get into. As I said , these were ‘ high’ schools that taught Latin and were perhaps more like your old school. My Grammar school called themselves ‘ Grammar technical ‘ and possibly concentrated more on technical education whereas the other schools were more focused on Classical education . |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 14, 2023 17:35:09 GMT
Stop this bullshit. Comprehensives have been around since 1967. As too has the increasing numbers of people going to universities. That’s another conversation … |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 14, 2023 17:37:30 GMT
A knob headed post creates a lough for a knob headed reader. Whatever next  What's a 'lough'? LOL. A large lake in Ireland.....remain seated, there may be more. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 17:42:54 GMT
A large lake in Ireland.....remain seated, there may be more. LOL, superb. |
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Post by Handyman on Jan 14, 2023 17:44:28 GMT
My home town only had one Grammar School a lovely old Gothic building with a large playing fields, with a large sports ground Labour basically shut down the Grammar School year ago, now its been turned into very expensive posh apartments, all there is now is Infants Schools and my old Comprehensive School which is oversubscribed youngster have to travel long distances to reach a secondary school
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 17:50:14 GMT
As too has the increasing numbers of people going to universities. And what a bonus a university education is these days. Study burger technology for 2 years, leave university with a poor degree and thousands of pounds of debt, and still end up working at Tesco. Brilliant. It must be a sad 'half empty glass' life when one finds oneself tuned into so many aspects of failure in life. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 14, 2023 17:52:25 GMT
And what a bonus a university education is these days. Study burger technology for 2 years, leave university with a poor degree and thousands of pounds of debt, and still end up working at Tesco. Brilliant. It must be a sad 'half empty glass' life when one finds oneself tuned into so many aspects of failure in life. Thank you for confiding in us about yourself . Don’t forget there is always the Samaritans . They might give a shit . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 17:53:22 GMT
Baron von Lotsov .. wrote .. "Ah but the time you refer to was when it was elitist. The drop in standards is now where it is more representative. If the working class brute down the public bar was as much entertainment as the ones who made it onto the telly then no one would bother with the telly, or with the theatre or any other showcase of talent.
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Is it not a case that everything was more elitist back then, not only the BBC, and its society that has evolved and caught up.
I believe that the BBCs ability to reflect society, and the quality of output are two separate issues, and I am certain that the freezing of the TV Licence over many years by this government is the sole cause of the lowering of quality, and the cutting of services, output and programming.
This government is now on course to make our BBC into the same "Shit Producing" broadcaster as most of the other commercial stations which no one hardly watches. The TV Licence fee is to be abandoned ( though subject to the Tories winning the next election ), which will result in less money, therefore less services, and even poorer quality.
If the Tories do happen to win the next election, it will signal the very end of high quality TV in this country.
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 17:55:03 GMT
A large lake in Ireland.....remain seated, there may be more. LOL, superb. Superb for slime bags with nothing better to laugh at . Incidentally it's really good to be human and therefor open to make mistakes occasionally without regrets. Idiots who laugh at mistakes by others just show their ignorance because they are not without mistakes in their own lives  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 17:56:07 GMT
It must be a sad 'half empty glass' life when one finds oneself tuned into so many aspects of failure in life. Thank you for confiding in us about yourself . Don’t forget there is always the Samaritans . They might give a shit . Piss off idiot. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 14, 2023 17:57:17 GMT
Whereas if Labour win the next election the BBC will return to the values held so dear to Lord Reith?
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Post by Toreador on Jan 14, 2023 17:57:17 GMT
Superb for slime bags with nothing better to laugh at . Incidentally it's really good to be human and therefor open to make mistakes occasionally without regrets. Idiots who laugh at mistakes by others just show their ignorance because they are not without mistakes in their own lives I am sickened that I made one mistake last year, the first for decades. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 18:10:24 GMT
I cannot say I have read any biographies of the guy but I do respect him. In his day of course the Labour party, though it contained many middle class intellectuals, was also still very much a party of and for the working class. Not so today. The party today holds the working class in contempt - or at least large elements of it do. Today it is a party pretty much of and for affluent middle class liberals, invested in the existing economic consensus both financially and ideologically. People such as myself, who were once seen as the backbone of the party, are now seen as ideological, even class, enemies. Bevan and others were necessary at the time, but the country has inevitably moved on. Kids no longer go down the pit at 15, the docks are gone, millions of people no longer clock on at the factory gate each morning, work has changed, the economy has changed. Blair took the party to the centre because he saw that a left wing socialist Labour party had no future in the 21st century, and he was right. The problem was, the ground Labour were and still are trying to move into is occupied by the Conservative party. Having two Tory parties does not serve the interests of democracy. And the working class very much still exists. It is the work that has changed, not the class. All those millions of nurses, bus drivers, taxi drivers, retail workers, hospitality sector workers, hair dressers, cleaners, builders, electricians, plumbers, bricklayers, labourers, grasscutters and grounds maintenance workers, street sweepers, road repair workers, delivery drivers, prison officers, firemen and women, lower level civil servants, lorry drivers, mechanics, etc, etc.....are all still working class occupations by and large. And some left wing policies are actually very popular when tested by polling, including many that formed a part of Labour's 2017 manifesto. What a party of the working class should be doing is identifying the problems of the working classes and addressing them with policy solutions that are popular amongst a majority of the electorate as a whole. And we are talking of a majority of the working class itself, not all of them because the working class is not a monolithic structure but contains a wide spectrum of opinion. There have for example always been working class Tories who would never identify with Labour even if it were a party of the working class. Some working class people, particularly some of the self-employed ones see themselves as rugged individualists and are naturally drawn to Tory thinking. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 18:14:46 GMT
Apologies for the size of the pic. My dads old alma mater, he was born in 1928 so I guess he would have been there early mid 1940's. He was a choirboy, I have a treasured photo of him looking very angelic in his choristers cassock. Looks can be deceiving, he joined the fledgling parachute regiment in 1947.  PS, Brewood, pronounced Brood. ![]() |
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