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Post by Pacifico on Jan 4, 2023 22:14:07 GMT
What has ambulance response times got to do with the budget of Wales or PFI ? Eh? - the Ambulance service in wales is controlled from Cardiff - Westminster have no say.
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Post by see2 on Jan 4, 2023 22:40:16 GMT
So it wasn't a lone idiot hmm.
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Post by see2 on Jan 4, 2023 22:45:42 GMT
So put your self-righteousness away as I'm not particularly interested in your opinions either. Oh the Irony..Nobody but you gives a flying fuck about your pathetic lefty ramblings.... Calling me a Lefty is a lie, something I expect from Righties. One thing posters can't accuse you of is you having any interest in debate, probably because that would require you to show a reasonable level of intelligence which is continually absent from your posts.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 4, 2023 23:50:34 GMT
Oh the Irony..Nobody but you gives a flying fuck about your pathetic lefty ramblings.... Calling me a Lefty is a lie, something I expect from Righties. One thing posters can't accuse you of is you having any interest in debate, probably because that would require you to show a reasonable level of intelligence which is continually absent from your posts. Ok lefty. You have heard the one about the ducks haven't you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 2:43:31 GMT
Calling me a Lefty is a lie, something I expect from Righties. One thing posters can't accuse you of is you having any interest in debate, probably because that would require you to show a reasonable level of intelligence which is continually absent from your posts. Ok lefty. You have heard the one about the ducks haven't you? I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 4:46:21 GMT
Ok lefty. You have heard the one about the ducks haven't you? I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is. I take that as a compliment because it don't take much to fool you does it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 9:24:57 GMT
Ok lefty. You have heard the one about the ducks haven't you? I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is. That's a trifle rude, srb. However, if See2 is who I think he is, he's a big Blair supporter and an even bigger forum troll. Maybe an intellectual troll, I grant you that. Jonksy is a straight forward tell it how he sees it man. No passive aggressive with him.
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Post by see2 on Jan 5, 2023 13:41:41 GMT
I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is. That's a trifle rude, srb. However, if See2 is who I think he is, he's a big Blair supporter and an even bigger forum troll. Maybe an intellectual troll, I grant you that. Jonksy is a straight forward tell it how he sees it man. No passive aggressive with him. I only defend Blair against the many lies and insinuations that are aimed at him. What went immediately before and after Blair / New Labour were far worse than the NLs running of the country. As for Jonksy he might try debating some time rather than just insulting posters.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 14:00:21 GMT
That's a trifle rude, srb. However, if See2 is who I think he is, he's a big Blair supporter and an even bigger forum troll. Maybe an intellectual troll, I grant you that. Jonksy is a straight forward tell it how he sees it man. No passive aggressive with him. I only defend Blair against the many lies and insinuations that are aimed at him. What went immediately before and after Blair / New Labour were far worse than the NLs running of the country. As for Jonksy he might try debating some time rather than just insulting posters.How can you debate with idiots who don't EVEN keep up with the times?
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Post by see2 on Jan 5, 2023 17:31:02 GMT
I only defend Blair against the many lies and insinuations that are aimed at him. What went immediately before and after Blair / New Labour were far worse than the NLs running of the country. As for Jonksy he might try debating some time rather than just insulting posters.How can you debate with idiots who don't EVEN keep up with the times? Thanks for proving my point LOL You appear to think like the loony in the lunatic asylum who thinks he's the only one sane.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 17:49:24 GMT
How can you debate with idiots who don't EVEN keep up with the times? Thanks for proving my point LOL You appear to think like the loony in the lunatic asylum who thinks he's the only one sane. Are you still wittering on? FFS planet zog is missing their village idiot.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2023 17:57:37 GMT
I've often thought that privatisation, or at least part privatisation of the NHS is inevitable. I've read various pro's & cons of which there are many. But the bottom line the one undeniable fact is that a privatised service must deliver a profit. A private company is unlikely to provide an unprofitable service, which means the service is cut or the consumer, in this case patients, pay for treatment. The NHS budget is £160 billion for the financial year 2023/24, and the service is on it's knees. What is the alternative?
Earlier I half listened listened to someone talking about a cross party board appointed to run the NHS so it becomes less of a political football, an idea that may have some merit. Although I'm struggling to see how it would address cost.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 5, 2023 18:02:43 GMT
All thats going to happen is that whoever gets in will chuck a few more billions into the black hole and the edifice will limp on in a state of permanent crisis - there simply is not the political will for any significant reform.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 18:08:52 GMT
I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is. That's a trifle rude, srb. However, if See2 is who I think he is, he's a big Blair supporter and an even bigger forum troll. Maybe an intellectual troll, I grant you that. Jonksy is a straight forward tell it how he sees it man. No passive aggressive with him. When it comes to being rude, Jonksy is in a class of his own. It is all he has. The worst forum troll around here which is saying a lot. You may have noticed that people being rude on this forum is the standard mode of operating, so to a degree I have gone native here. I give as good as I get. The other forum sadly seems to have arrived at a crisis point. I do though tend not to be rude to those who post respectfully and reasonably.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2023 18:09:53 GMT
I disagree with See 2 all the time but he is an intellectual giant compared to you. But then again, so is my hamster. And if you think he is a lefty you have no clue what a lefty is. That's a trifle rude, srb. However, if See2 is who I think he is, he's a big Blair supporter and an even bigger forum troll. Maybe an intellectual troll, I grant you that. Jonksy is a straight forward tell it how he sees it man. No passive aggressive with him. If See2 is an intellectual, I'm Albert Albert Einstein. Indeed Mrs R often calls me Bert, at least I think it's Bert, lol. Difficult to tell, I've developed the ability of switching my ears off while at all times looking as if I'm paying attention. Marital bliss.
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