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Post by zanygame on Jan 25, 2023 20:01:01 GMT
Pity he can't rely on the NHS to make him better.  They're not gods. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 25, 2023 22:26:21 GMT
I have lived through umpteen different Government's from all sides of the political spectrum carrying out umpteen NHS reorganisations and nothing has improved the service. Just admit the basic model is flawed and move on from there. Then you have 2 options - change the model (which is never going to happen) or just live with a substandard service (which is what we have been doing for the past 70 years) - so nothing is going to chnage. So you have no options for improving the NHS, in which case stop whining. I think Blair was onto a big improvement, a winner in fact, with his idea that the Private sector SHOULD BE USED TO HELP OUT IN SPECIALISED OPERATIONS, HIRED BY, USED BY AND PAID FOR by BY THE NHS. I hope Starmer picks up on this idea if he gets elected. And those idiots who claim that such would be privatisation of the NHS just get rapidly fucked off. Oh do get real - Blair poured money into the day to day budget of the NHS by the PFI scam that took infrastructure investment off book. The excessive costs of those PFI deals are a big part of the funding problems today - more than one hospital has gone broke due to Blairs PFI obsession. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 25, 2023 22:29:22 GMT
Hmm - the NHS has more money than at any time in its history and more managers than at any time in its history but cannot come up with a work rota for cleaners.. you're sick Sick for demanding that the NHS, which has the largest none medical proportion of staff in any European health system organise a cleaning rota? Seems that people like you are the problem rather than the solution.. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 25, 2023 22:40:59 GMT
Sick for demanding that the NHS, which has the largest none medical proportion of staff in any European health system organise a cleaning rota? Seems that people like you are the problem rather than the solution.. I feel your comment was inappropriate to the moving piece you attached it to. But there you go. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 26, 2023 14:09:38 GMT
Interesting You claim that the ''public'' (What public consultation? No-one asked me) are interested in waiting times as the no 1 concern, They aren't interested in being made better ? I don't think so, I just posted some information. information? Hardly I've found the source of your c&p stating that supposed public consultation on NHS concluded that waiting times were the No 1 priority and getting better wasn't even mentioned. It's a direct unattributed c&p from yet another woke charity organisation with this as ''who we are'' We are an international team of innovators, researchers, communicators, dreamers – and a few recovering consultants – who draw on the insights of our Board and Fellows to help shape and test our ideas and initiatives.Their photos show BYTs and objectives are standard woke soundbites www.centreforpublicimpact.org/ |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2023 14:31:16 GMT
So you have no options for improving the NHS, in which case stop whining. I think Blair was onto a big improvement, a winner in fact, with his idea that the Private sector SHOULD BE USED TO HELP OUT IN SPECIALISED OPERATIONS, HIRED BY, USED BY AND PAID FOR by BY THE NHS. I hope Starmer picks up on this idea if he gets elected. And those idiots who claim that such would be privatisation of the NHS just get rapidly fucked off. Oh do get real - Blair poured money into the day to day budget of the NHS by the PFI scam that took infrastructure investment off book. The excessive costs of those PFI deals are a big part of the funding problems today - more than one hospital has gone broke due to Blairs PFI obsession. Still whining then. All you have done is to expose your single minded NEED to attack the NHS as you ignore the gist of my post and just indulged in your usual ranting approach. What was the excess costs of PFIs over doing the same job under Government planning? The NHS NEEDED rescuing after the mess that stupid idiot Thatcher made of it. No method of building the needed new hospitals would have been cheap and would probably not been done left to the more stupid anti-NHS Tory members. Let alone the needed new Nurses and doctors required. The biggest problem for the NHS was the International Financial Meltdown 2008 which threw all of the previous financial planning out of the window. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2023 14:37:15 GMT
I don't think so, I just posted some information. information? Hardly I've found the source of your c&p stating that supposed public consultation on NHS concluded that waiting times were the No 1 priority and getting better wasn't even mentioned. It's a direct unattributed c&p from yet another woke charity organisation with this as ''who we are'' We are an international team of innovators, researchers, communicators, dreamers – and a few recovering consultants – who draw on the insights of our Board and Fellows to help shape and test our ideas and initiatives.Their photos show BYTs and objectives are standard woke soundbites www.centreforpublicimpact.org/So I did just post some information. Your reply is pure wokery. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 26, 2023 15:38:40 GMT
information? Hardly I've found the source of your c&p stating that supposed public consultation on NHS concluded that waiting times were the No 1 priority and getting better wasn't even mentioned. It's a direct unattributed c&p from yet another woke charity organisation with this as ''who we are'' We are an international team of innovators, researchers, communicators, dreamers – and a few recovering consultants – who draw on the insights of our Board and Fellows to help shape and test our ideas and initiatives.Their photos show BYTs and objectives are standard woke soundbites www.centreforpublicimpact.org/So I did just post some information. Your reply is pure wokery. I wonder whether you seriously believe the utter BS you post ( no-one sensible could possibly do so) or whether it's just a big wind up for you? I'm currently on the fence |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 26, 2023 18:12:53 GMT
Oh do get real - Blair poured money into the day to day budget of the NHS by the PFI scam that took infrastructure investment off book. The excessive costs of those PFI deals are a big part of the funding problems today - more than one hospital has gone broke due to Blairs PFI obsession. Still whining then. All you have done is to expose your single minded NEED to attack the NHS as you ignore the gist of my post and just indulged in your usual ranting approach. What was the excess costs of PFIs over doing the same job under Government planning? The NHS NEEDED rescuing after the mess that stupid idiot Thatcher made of it. No method of building the needed new hospitals would have been cheap and would probably not been done left to the more stupid anti-NHS Tory members. Let alone the needed new Nurses and doctors required. The biggest problem for the NHS was the International Financial Meltdown 2008 which threw all of the previous financial planning out of the window. Most of the funding problems in NHS trusts can be directly traced back to the flawed PFI deals they were lumbered with. The current crisis in GP's access can be directly linked back to the GP contract agreed by Blair.. Keep trying to whitewash the errors of the new Labour era if you wish, but several of us on this forum lived through it and know the reality. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2023 19:06:57 GMT
So I did just post some information. Your reply is pure wokery. I wonder whether you seriously believe the utter BS you post ( no-one sensible could possibly do so) or whether it's just a big wind up for you? I'm currently on the fence You are currently in La La land. You just denigrate what you don't like then dismiss it. As if your weird woke opinions meant something LOL |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2023 19:13:10 GMT
Still whining then. All you have done is to expose your single minded NEED to attack the NHS as you ignore the gist of my post and just indulged in your usual ranting approach. What was the excess costs of PFIs over doing the same job under Government planning? The NHS NEEDED rescuing after the mess that stupid idiot Thatcher made of it. No method of building the needed new hospitals would have been cheap and would probably not been done left to the more stupid anti-NHS Tory members. Let alone the needed new Nurses and doctors required. The biggest problem for the NHS was the International Financial Meltdown 2008 which threw all of the previous financial planning out of the window. Most of the funding problems in NHS trusts can be directly traced back to the flawed PFI deals they were lumbered with. The current crisis in GP's access can be directly linked back to the GP contract agreed by Blair.. Keep trying to whitewash the errors of the new Labour era if you wish, but several of us on this forum lived through it and know the reality. Only the early PFI deals were flawed, and as far as I'm aware they were renegotiated. Other than that you have no answer to my post other than your flawed opinions, as you ONCE AGAIN ignore the gist of my post. Can I suggest that in future post to me that you either address the points in my post you pretend to reply to, or you just go and play somewhere else. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 26, 2023 22:19:46 GMT
Most of the funding problems in NHS trusts can be directly traced back to the flawed PFI deals they were lumbered with. The current crisis in GP's access can be directly linked back to the GP contract agreed by Blair.. Keep trying to whitewash the errors of the new Labour era if you wish, but several of us on this forum lived through it and know the reality. Only the early PFI deals were flawed, and as far as I'm aware they were renegotiated. Other than that you have no answer to my post other than your flawed opinions, as you ONCE AGAIN ignore the gist of my post. Can I suggest that in future post to me that you either address the points in my post you pretend to reply to, or you just go and play somewhere else. Your post was just pointless irrelevant rhetoric - which I notice is your usual response when a poster points out your flawed arguments. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 27, 2023 13:47:28 GMT
I wonder whether you seriously believe the utter BS you post ( no-one sensible could possibly do so) or whether it's just a big wind up for you? I'm currently on the fence You are currently in La La land. You just denigrate what you don't like then dismiss it. As if your weird woke opinions meant something LOL Try reading your post out loud whilst looking in a mirror |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 27, 2023 13:49:13 GMT
You are currently in La La land. You just denigrate what you don't like then dismiss it. As if your weird woke opinions meant something LOL Try reading your post out loud whilst looking in a mirror Does he have a reflection? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 27, 2023 21:38:47 GMT
Only the early PFI deals were flawed, and as far as I'm aware they were renegotiated. Other than that you have no answer to my post other than your flawed opinions, as you ONCE AGAIN ignore the gist of my post. Can I suggest that in future post to me that you either address the points in my post you pretend to reply to, or you just go and play somewhere else. Your post was just pointless irrelevant rhetoric - which I notice is your usual response when a poster points out your flawed arguments. When you have no answers, just keep on whining LOL |
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