|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 12:04:36 GMT
Dont agree. As i said , the bbc lost children in my expericence a long time ago. Nickleodeon and other channels were a favourite of my kids twenty years ago. Not the bbc.
second point not sure. Agree with third point .
Well it persisted with Mumsy TV like Blue Peter for too long but having Children's TV on BBC1 til 5.55pm was a massive capture of generations to get into the more grown up fare that followed. 6 years olds are not going to watch Pointless in any numbers are they i know but you are missing the point. Us watching blue peter , or whatever in the eighties on the few channels available , wasnt what my kids had at hand twenty years ago never mind now.
The bbc are competing for an ever shrinking audience who have more and more platforms to choose from ,eventually that small share of the market will make them economically redundant. They are struggling financially just now from all reports. The over 60`s are all that is between them and oblivion.
|
|
|
|
Post by patman post on Jan 5, 2023 12:55:34 GMT
As of 2020, the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 were the top three TV broadcasters in the UK The most-watched TV is the BBC with an audience share of about 32%. ITV had a 21.6% audience share, and Channel 4 had a 10.2% audience share. Traditional media such as television has been one of the primary sources of entertainment and advertising for decades, and people from nearly 26.8 million households own a TV in the UK. Still, if you want to know which age group watches the most TV in the UK, it’s worth noting that seniors over the age of 65 spend the most time in front of the TV screen. [But]TV statistics UK reveal a drastic decline in TV viewing trends in the last few years and whether we can expect different outcomes in the future. cybercrew.uk/blog/tv-statistics-uk/ |
|
|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 13:10:56 GMT
As of 2020, the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 were the top three TV broadcasters in the UK The most-watched TV is the BBC with an audience share of about 32%. ITV had a 21.6% audience share, and Channel 4 had a 10.2% audience share. Traditional media such as television has been one of the primary sources of entertainment and advertising for decades, and people from nearly 26.8 million households own a TV in the UK. Still, if you want to know which age group watches the most TV in the UK, it’s worth noting that seniors over the age of 65 spend the most time in front of the TV screen. [But]TV statistics UK reveal a drastic decline in TV viewing trends in the last few years and whether we can expect different outcomes in the future. cybercrew.uk/blog/tv-statistics-uk/Whats your point? Traditional telly audiences and viewing habits are declining which is the point.
Im not sure anyone is arguing the bbc , and its captive over 60 audience , isnt still the most watched , more that viewing is declining , more platforms on offer , the future of the licence fee ,children and young adults swtiching off.
are we arguing against all reports the bbc licence fee and traditional tv have a future as they stand?
|
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jan 5, 2023 13:45:26 GMT
It can't afford either. Just a fact it was outbidded on both. Sky with Sky Sports costs ~ 8 times the licence fee. True, but how many fewer customers does it have ? About 22 million paying customers but it's the viewing figures that say more. Less viewer minutes per month than Ch4 and less that a quarter that of the BBC www.barb.co.uk/monthly-viewing/Nickelodeon mentioned above way way less And while 60% of households have Netflix (similar have Prime) the actual viewing minutes are hard to find. It's known their subscribers are declining |
|
|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 13:53:11 GMT
True, but how many fewer customers does it have ? It's known their subscribers are declining False implication , though that doesnt mean viewers are returning to traditional telly and viewing habits compatible with the bbc and the licence simpley because certain platforms are losing customers to newer platforms. |
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jan 5, 2023 14:04:18 GMT
It's known their subscribers are declining False implication , though that doesnt mean viewers are returning to traditional telly and viewing habits compatible with the bbc and the licence simpley because certain platforms are losing customers to newer platforms. Not what I was implying at all. Viewing is down across all platforms |
|
|
|
Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 5, 2023 14:15:56 GMT
Two experts on the BBC today talking about cures for the common cold.
Expert one runs a cold research centre in Cardiff, says two ways to mitigate the effects of cold viruses used in leading pharmaceutical brands is 1) use an acid because viruses do not like acidic environments. 2) Use seaweed. It contains a positively charged molecule that attracts itself to the virus and screws it up. Both have been verified with clinical trials so both are legal to sell as treatments for common colds.
Expert two is some woman, didn't catch her qualifications but understood she was from the health sector (probably NHS) and was asked about if chilli can help a common cold. Her reply was there is absolutely no scientific evidence to substantiate this claim at all as far as she knew. The end clause was a necessity, meaning whatever she had just said could easily be wrong. Well we should know chilli contains an acid. It is called sinapic acid, but you didn't need to know that. All you needed to hear was expert one on the same programme who said cold viruses are mitigated by an acid environment. In other words the stupid cow did not have any common scientific intelligence.
I was happy with the knowledge of expert one though. It was clear he knew his stuff.
|
|
|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 14:20:40 GMT
False implication , though that doesnt mean viewers are returning to traditional telly and viewing habits compatible with the bbc and the licence simpley because certain platforms are losing customers to newer platforms. Not what I was implying at all. Viewing is down across all platforms Define platforms and show me how they have declined /increased compared to the bbc?
traditional telly as covered by the tv licence fee is down once again according to ofcoms 2022 report , while platforms like tik tok , on demand video continue to grow. So not quite true steve ,and rather vague.
|
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jan 5, 2023 15:07:59 GMT
Proposal, instead of spending on celebrity names, spend on high quality content. Sack all millionaire stars, and the BBC might be able to afford to host the Premiership football. Possibly even F1.
|
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jan 5, 2023 16:04:40 GMT
Not what I was implying at all. Viewing is down across all platforms Define platforms and show me how they have declined /increased compared to the bbc?
traditional telly as covered by the tv licence fee is down once again according to ofcoms 2022 report , while platforms like tik tok , on demand video continue to grow. So not quite true steve ,and rather vague.
Why should I 'show' you something I didn't say? What a daft request. Now you have the Barb link maybe you could actually read it |
|
|
|
Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 5, 2023 16:16:18 GMT
Proposal, instead of spending on celebrity names, spend on high quality content. Sack all millionaire stars, and the BBC might be able to afford to host the Premiership football. Possibly even F1. Footballers are the celebs though. |
|
|
|
Post by patman post on Jan 5, 2023 16:50:58 GMT
As of 2020, the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 were the top three TV broadcasters in the UK The most-watched TV is the BBC with an audience share of about 32%. ITV had a 21.6% audience share, and Channel 4 had a 10.2% audience share. Traditional media such as television has been one of the primary sources of entertainment and advertising for decades, and people from nearly 26.8 million households own a TV in the UK. Still, if you want to know which age group watches the most TV in the UK, it’s worth noting that seniors over the age of 65 spend the most time in front of the TV screen. [But]TV statistics UK reveal a drastic decline in TV viewing trends in the last few years and whether we can expect different outcomes in the future. cybercrew.uk/blog/tv-statistics-uk/Whats your point? Traditional telly audiences and viewing habits are declining which is the point.
Im not sure anyone is arguing the bbc , and its captive over 60 audience , isnt still the most watched , more that viewing is declining , more platforms on offer , the future of the licence fee ,children and young adults swtiching off.
are we arguing against all reports the bbc licence fee and traditional tv have a future as they stand?
Plans to privatise Channel 4 seem to have been shelved, so it seems likely the drastic plans for BBC funding could also be revised. The BBC itself is putting more effort into non-traditional TV channels and output, so its future audiences may well include a high proportion of younger, non-regular TV viewers. Despite the initial attraction of non-mainstream and citizen journalist output has on young, and easily influenced frequently immature minds, indications are (not least from advertisers and sponsors) that established news and entertainment media, with performance records gained over decades, are likely to retain their attraction and credibility. But methods of delivery are likely to change… |
|
|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 17:02:50 GMT
Define platforms and show me how they have declined /increased compared to the bbc?
traditional telly as covered by the tv licence fee is down once again according to ofcoms 2022 report , while platforms like tik tok , on demand video continue to grow. So not quite true steve ,and rather vague.
Why should I 'show' you something I didn't say? What a daft request. Now you have the Barb link maybe you could actually read it you said viewing in all platforms is down. Tik tok isnt according to ofcom.Thats a platform. |
|
|
|
Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 17:03:46 GMT
Whats your point? Traditional telly audiences and viewing habits are declining which is the point.
Im not sure anyone is arguing the bbc , and its captive over 60 audience , isnt still the most watched , more that viewing is declining , more platforms on offer , the future of the licence fee ,children and young adults swtiching off.
are we arguing against all reports the bbc licence fee and traditional tv have a future as they stand?
Plans to privatise Channel 4 seem to have been shelved, so it seems likely the drastic plans for BBC funding could also be revised. The BBC itself is putting more effort into non-traditional TV channels and output, so its future audiences may well include a high proportion of younger, non-regular TV viewers. Despite the initial attraction of non-mainstream and citizen journalist output has on young, and easily influenced frequently immature minds, indications are (not least from advertisers and sponsors) that established news and entertainment media, with performance records gained over decades, are likely to retain their attraction and credibility. But methods of delivery are likely to change… Fair enough post. Time will tell on the future of the bbc as it stands and the current licence. |
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jan 5, 2023 22:43:32 GMT
Why should I 'show' you something I didn't say? What a daft request. Now you have the Barb link maybe you could actually read it you said viewing in all platforms is down. Tik tok isnt according to ofcom.Thats a platform. Arguable, so is YouTube which IIRC is also up but they are usually referred to as Short form outlets not tv programme platforms |
|
