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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 18:41:36 GMT
Putting aside the fact there is no such thing as a country called the UK GB or Britain. It is a sovereign state of 4 countries. I now remember your opening drivel on the old forum with Ycop001. This is what you ranted. You were going to vote SNP but after taking risk assessment on the ferry cock up, you decided against it. I laughed my balls of when I read that. is this the brit nat who used to post under the name soupy soutar or some thing like that?
Posing as an unaffiliated concerned citizen?
Theres another forum i go on with a guy who sounds remarkably similar to both happy and soupy............and he is called soupy soutar , a brit nat from Aberdeen , former lib dem voter who im sure told me his old mp was Malcolm Bruce.
If its the same guy , soupy has been having a meltdown and apoplectic fit since 2011 when Salmond got his big majority . He is still crying over englands full brexit , and demanding scotland and england come to their sense and see his world view and us jocks get back in our boxes .
The nasty nationalist who hates nationalism? That guy?
Taking a risk assessment on voting snp?
Stope it .
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 18:45:41 GMT
I havent laughed so hard happy since you told me scotland wasnt allowed to leave the onion.
You dont want to engage with jaydee because he tells you the truth and rubbishes your claims?
I have absolutely no idea what his problem is. What ever it is. It is beyond pathetic. The ego is dented. It fits in with his zany personality and contradictory stance.
The nasty nationalist who doesnt like nationalism . The debater who doest like debate.
I think he sounds a bit demented like jo " the next uk prime minister" swinson.
Happy will be crying into his porridge long after scotland and england have kissed , made up and went our on merry ways.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 7, 2023 18:48:26 GMT
Putting aside the fact there is no such thing as a country called the UK GB or Britain. It is a sovereign state of 4 countries. I now remember your opening drivel on the old forum with Ycop001. This is what you ranted. You were going to vote SNP but after taking risk assessment on the ferry cock up, you decided against it. I laughed my balls of when I read that. is this the brit nat who used to post under the name soupy soutar or some thing like that?
Posing as an unaffiliated concerned citizen?
Theres another forum i go on with a guy who sounds remarkably similar to both happy and soupy............and he is called soupy soutar , a brit nat from Aberdeen , former lib dem voter who im sure told me his old mp was Malcolm Bruce.
If its the same guy , soupy has been having a meltdown and apoplectic fit since 2011 when Salmond got his big majority . He is still crying over englands full brexit , and demanding scotland and england come to their sense and see his world view and us jocks get back in our boxes .
The nasty nationalist who hates nationalism? That guy?
Taking a risk assessment on voting snp?
Stope it .
You could be right so I will ask him if he is not in the huff again. Where you Soapy Souter as well. I remember him. Look on the bright side. He might take up politics. He certainly will not get a job with his risk assessment
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Post by happyjack on Jan 7, 2023 20:14:21 GMT
Jeezo guys,
I already answered that question when John put it to me earlier today.
I was on the old site. My name back then was Balmaha.
BTW - as I understand things, it is very likely that everybody on this place was on the old site.
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 20:22:08 GMT
Jeezo guys, I already answered that question when John put it to me earlier today. I was on the old site. My name back then was Balmaha. BTW - as I understand things, it is very likely that everybody on this place was on the old site. Dont worry aboot it sookie.
Now back to business.
Majority of people in all uk countries on the future of the yookay ,...
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 20:50:10 GMT
Thats a shocker int it sookie?
Sookie claims he wont let scotland leave the onion because the end of the onion will upset him .
Majority of people in all four uk nations say the onion will be over within ten years , with the biggest majority in scotland saying it will be kaput by then.
No one agrees with sookie soutar shocker.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 8, 2023 4:23:07 GMT
The most glaring thing here is how totally out of touch with this whole subject so many people across the country must be.
Out of the 3 territories that might be considered likely to break away
- There is not anything like the appetite in Wales for it realistically be independent within any of the timescales above.
- The Supreme Court decision on Scottish indyref2 has knocked the stuffing out of the prospects of us even having a referendum for at least 20 years in all probability, and
- There is currently no clamour for a border referendum in NI so no prospect of one being called any time soon.
This is basic awareness stuff as, I would have thought, is the fact that a realistic timescale from triggering a referendum, completing settlement negotiations, and getting all of the arrangements and processes in place and independence launched, is 4 or 5 years. Not only that but there is in the region of a 50/50 chance right now of getting a Yes vote in any Indy referendum in any of these territories, and zero chance of getting one in Wales.
Despite all of this, close to 1 in 4 of us laughably think that one of these 3 territories will, or may, have broken away from the UK within 12 months, and more than half of us think that this will or may happen within the next 5 years, which is hardly any less laughable..
Based upon this, I think that we can be as certain as we can that neither of the shorter timeframes above is going to see any change. So if anything is going to happen it will be in one of the 2 longer timeframes in the table above.
Even then, I think that we can safely rule out Wales from our calculations, leaving Scotland and/or Northern Ireland to be the one to make the break.
We can’t rule Scotland out completely, but right now, my views is that there is little prospect of a referendum any time soon unless there is a seismic shift in public support for independence amongst the Scottish people. We live in turbulent times so who knows what lies ahead but it feels to me, despite recent polls showing a slight lead for Yes, that the mid to long term isn’t going to see Indy support do any better than bob up and down along the 50% line, and, with the increasing prospect of a Labour PM in Downing Street, the tendency is likely for it to be more down below that line over the mid term at least .
So the real prospect to leave is NI. It will surely reunite with the rest of the island at some stage, it has a mechanism for triggering a referendum and a timeframe for holding another as little as 7 years later if the demand is there, and it would presumably be easier and therefore take less time for it to be assimilated into Ireland than it would take Scotland or Wales to go full on Indy. Will it happen within 10 years, probably not - but 20 years seems quite likely to me.
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Post by thomas on Jan 8, 2023 9:37:55 GMT
The most glaring thing here is how totally out of touch with this whole subject so many people across the country must be. The most glaring thing here is that you believe everyones "opinion" is wrong and you are correct. How surprising.
The point is , although none of us have a crystal ball , including im afraid you if that doesnt puncture your ego too much , we are posting the opinions of people polled in all four nations of the uk , and what they think the future holds for the uk.
Despite your repeatedly insinuation the break up of the uk is a minority view of a bunch of extreme "seperatists" , imagine my surprise when it appears to be the majority view across the uk?
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 19:59:02 GMT
Jeezo guys, I already answered that question when John put it to me earlier today. I was on the old site. My name back then was Balmaha. BTW - as I understand things, it is very likely that everybody on this place was on the old site. That's funny. You just denied you were Balmaha. What was that about chain yanking . And the real Balmaha has been in touch with me You are the joker who ranted about Risk Assessment. Second time I have asked. Instead of making a total prat of yourself What was your name on the old forum. If you do not want to say so. Just say so. You are now a liar. Any credibility you had has now gone. By the way sooner or later I will suss it out. As in RISK ASSESSMENT
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 20:09:05 GMT
The Supreme Court decision on Scottish indyref2 has knocked the stuffing out of the prospects of us even having a referendum for at least 20 years in all probability, and on Indy. Will it happen within 10 years, probably not - but 20 years seems quite likely to me. The Supreme court proved one thing at the cost of £700,000 to the tax payer. The Union is not voluntary. The BritNats can no longer use that excuse. The next road to go. Is Defacto and the Bill of Rights. Its simply time. Its now finished thanks to 13 years of Tory rule. You having ranted you are not a Unionist.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 9, 2023 5:05:44 GMT
The most glaring thing here is how totally out of touch with this whole subject so many people across the country must be. The most glaring thing here is that you believe everyones "opinion" is wrong and you are correct. How surprising.
The point is , although none of us have a crystal ball , including im afraid you if that doesnt puncture your ego too much , we are posting the opinions of people polled in all four nations of the uk , and what they think the future holds for the uk.
Despite your repeatedly insinuation the break up of the uk is a minority view of a bunch of extreme "seperatists" , imagine my surprise when it appears to be the majority view across the uk?
As I have recently said on a post on another thread, your inability to receive and understand messages that jar with the twisted and erroneous narrative that you buy into leads to many/all such messages getting corrupted in your brain. This is another whopping example.
Not only have I never insinuated or stated that the break up of the UK is a minority view (if only, at least in respect of an Indy Scotland) but I say above that there will surely be re-unification of Ireland and NI at some stage. So clearly I believe that the UK will break up, and I have said above that I feel that this will most likely happen in 10-20 years time. Indeed, as I expect the break up of the Uk will be due to the re-unification of Ireland, then that would mean we will see not only the break up but the end of the UK, leaving just Great Britain again.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 9, 2023 5:37:34 GMT
Jeezo guys, I already answered that question when John put it to me earlier today. I was on the old site. My name back then was Balmaha. BTW - as I understand things, it is very likely that everybody on this place was on the old site. That's funny. You just denied you were Balmaha. What was that about chain yanking . And the real Balmaha has been in touch with me You are the joker who ranted about Risk Assessment. Second time I have asked. Instead of making a total prat of yourself What was your name on the old forum. If you do not want to say so. Just say so. You are now a liar. Any credibility you had has now gone. By the way sooner or later I will suss it out. As in RISK ASSESSMENT Well, that was like getting savaged by a dead sheep! Engaging in a gentle piece of leg pulling with the real Balmaha no more makes me a liar, or wipes out my credibility, than you repeatedly saying that Scotland only spends its own money, or that ScotGov underspends every year, makes you a liar or wipes out your credibility (in the case of the latter, because you already have none, obviously). BTW despite you continually claiming that I kept going on about it, I never once mentioned Risk Assessment in the old forum. I did, in one post only, criticise ScotGov’s poor Risk Evaluation in respect of some of the decisions they made on the ferry contract. This is hardly a controversial view. BTW2- I presume that you asked Balmaha why he had chosen to change his name when he came on here - or that he told you why before you got the chance to ask him?
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Post by happyjack on Jan 9, 2023 6:35:15 GMT
The most glaring thing here is how totally out of touch with this whole subject so many people across the country must be. The most glaring thing here is that you believe everyones "opinion" is wrong and you are correct. How surprising.
The point is , although none of us have a crystal ball , including im afraid you if that doesnt puncture your ego too much ,
Why would it do that? I said very much the same thing in my post, albeit that I didn’t fall back on the old “crystal ball” cliche but simply said “ who knows what lies ahead” instead. You really are showing more and more signs that you struggle to read, process and understand things. Maybe you should be a little less eager to try to score points against me and instead take time to remove those Indy blinkers and properly read what I post before firing back your latest twisted response.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 9, 2023 6:59:00 GMT
The Supreme Court decision on Scottish indyref2 has knocked the stuffing out of the prospects of us even having a referendum for at least 20 years in all probability, and on Indy. Will it happen within 10 years, probably not - but 20 years seems quite likely to me. The Supreme court proved one thing at the cost of £700,000 to the tax payer. The Union is not voluntary. The BritNats can no longer use that excuse. The next road to go. Is Defacto and the Bill of Rights. Its simply time. Its now finished thanks to 13 years of Tory rule. You having ranted you are not a Unionist. The Supreme Court’s decision was a foregone conclusion. SNP ScotGov knew that before launching the case. Despite knowing that, Sturgeon was happy to add to the taxpayers’ burden as it gave her another grievance-stirring opportunity. You are right when you say that the Union is not voluntary. The only thing that was ever voluntary about it was the decision to enter into it. I don’t understand your point about it no longer being an excuse, though. An excuse for what? I haven’t ranted anything. I have simply stated that I am not a unionist, which is the truth. That is unless you think that anyone who doesn’t want to impose severe long term financial damage on most Scots is a unionist, in which case I stand guilty as charged.
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Post by morayloon on Jan 12, 2023 0:11:11 GMT
The Supreme court proved one thing at the cost of £700,000 to the tax payer. The Union is not voluntary. The BritNats can no longer use that excuse. The next road to go. Is Defacto and the Bill of Rights. Its simply time. Its now finished thanks to 13 years of Tory rule. You having ranted you are not a Unionist. I have simply stated that I am not a unionist, which is the truth. That is unless you think that anyone who doesn’t want to impose severe long term financial damage on most Scots is a unionist, in which case I stand guilty as charged. You are the most rabid Unionist on the forum. At least the English Scots haters are up front with their Unionist beliefs. You profess to be 'sitting on the fence' but your every post gives the lie to that suggestion.
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