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Post by Dubdrifter on Feb 2, 2024 10:56:41 GMT
Here are a couple of ‘stills’ I took from a Shorts video that some people claim the pilot faked … View AttachmentFreezing the action … the second shot seems to show a metallic object glinting in the sun. View Attachment… Note the orientation of this UFO … turned on it’s side and moving along ‘belly first’ … a bit similar to the recent Navy pilot tracking shots seen all over the Internet right now … ad nauseam!🙄 So you looked it over carefully did you? … clearly not. Did you expand the object (ufo) image to see if it was laid on top of the aircraft footage? … or did you detect it was possibly integral with the airscape … and just maybe a real object? I think most people here are familiar with the power and flexibility of CGI and how it can drop manipulated animated objects onto a back-screen projection. Even your high definition Navigator clip … when expanded on a tablet screen shows evidence of ‘overlay’. I’m not an expert on spotting CGI ‘faults’ … but if this Short video I snapped is ‘ faked’ and the Comments rightly point out the camera suspiciously anticipates and tracks the object suggesting it’s most likely ‘faked’ … or a very LUCKY capture …. But why would the object at each position you freeze the footage show it looks part of the scenary … and not overlay? … and why would a faker CGI in a silvery reflective object at the very end of the tracking … when 99% of observers wouldn’t bother to ‘freeze-frame’ at that point? … gone in a flash few would see … but a very difficult transition of the object to render …spot on convincingly …sitting well in the image? …. Maybe I’m wrong … and faking this … is a piece of cake.🍰🎂 Some people say this dialogue is very 1960’s mindset philosophical exchange … so Meni Things … if he synthesised this … faked everything 2010-14 … then he captured the mindset and arrogance of Military Intelligence of the 60’s/70’s… perfectly. 👏 If the dialogue follows 60s cinema stereotypes, don't you feel that's a mark against it being real? People weren't stupid in the sixties, but the language and meaning of cinema was different. In my very humble opinion the dialogue is absurd. No member of the intelligence community is going to grill an alien life-form about 'the meaning of the universe' - what would be the point? so you can be potentially manipulated? I see your point … and it does flag up suspicions for observers looking from a Worldly-wise and weary modernist 2020’s stand-point … but for those who were adults at that time, brutalised by Vietnam … with an angry Cold War CIA cynicism … having lived through the 60’s and 70’s they thought was ‘infected’ by hippy ideology … maybe this explains a searching for answers to God, the Universe … everything. If you were confronted with an alien life form that alleged “came from the future” in obviously very futuristic craft with incredible devices not conventionally wired like our technology …. obviously super intelligent … after initial questions showing interest how their technology worked … what other questions would you eventually like answered?? … surely those big esoteric/philosophical ones about the ‘Meaning of Life’? No? Some see this as just a tiny snapshot of many conversations the U.S. Military Intelligence Black Ops 60’s mindset would be having with a number of different captured aliens … and many interrogation opportunities … What seems more odd to me is using torture and drugs to extract information … which suggests the ‘softly softly’ approach probably didn’t initially work. … and the goon squad lost patience. [It can be argued the only reason we got to see this tiny snapshot of an interview …was because the clip presented to some ‘bright spark’ in the CIA Deep State … an opportunity to influence and scare a sector of Republican voters in 2016 … Trump was dressed up by the MSM - as an ‘idiot who would trigger a nuclear war’ … Luckily few were taken in … the genocide wars in Ukraine and Gaza would likely have started 4 years earlier … but the interrogation clip luckily remains for us to examine closely … Instead Trump proved a great Leader … to roughly 50% of Americans … and gained respect from a few intelligent analysts from abroad … securing 3 nominations 3 years running for the Nobel Peace Prize from a number of top Australian professors. Proof indeed it was Biden and the Globalist Zionist Posse … and Deep State/the CIA itself that was the ‘nuclear threat’ to the Planet this alien astutely predicted was coming. Never has the nuclear clock ticked closer to total Armageddon … thanks to EU/U.S.CIA/SOROS/Bloomberg/Rothschild/Israeli/Net+Yahoo Silicon Valley/NATO eastern expansionist totalitarian ambitions. … and we can thank the Nazis running the BBC for duping the World as to the REAL expansionist threat here … not Putin or Xi … because map expansionism paints a completely different picture to what the MSM is telling the World right now. Yes … We need aliens giving us a new perspective on our collective stupidity.🤔 [Maybe it’s time to be educating ‘God-dependency’ out of our many cultures. Time to consign ‘The Meaning of Life’ to the back-burner?… “the creation of the physical Universe was a happy/unhappy accident’ … and all other Universes might just be ethereal.🤣👍 I’m happy we have at least one physical Universe … I’ve had fun being here temporarily … and hope I come back with a bit more wisdom for the start of my next reincarnation … if it happens. … so I can hit the ground running.🤔 Knowing my luck … I’ll likely come back as a cockroach … and be stepped on in 3 minutes … before I get a chance to write on a cockroach Forum … and educate all the little Vinny cockroaches … as to where they are going wrong!🤣 |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 2, 2024 11:01:48 GMT
This is a debating forum not a preaching forum.
You have not provided proof.
You've provided footage which could easily have been faked.
These days even blender can be used as a video editing tool and a cheap pc can produce high quality illusions.
Methods for observing / communicating with extra terrestrials please.
Places to visit.
Radio frequencies to monitor.
That sort of thing, something we can do ourselves and see for ourselves without a camera.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Feb 2, 2024 11:04:19 GMT
Why don’t you research that? …and drop your findings here?
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Post by Vinny on Feb 2, 2024 16:15:41 GMT
You're the one making debatable claims without proof, not me.
I know the distances involved and the complexity of space travel. We can't even put men on Mars and bring them back despite having enough knowledge of physics to get spacecraft to Mars. The energy requirements to cross the galaxy at greater than light speed are difficult enough.
Hit something (and space has lots of little somethings floating around) and the high speed vessel will have gone millions of miles before the air inside has completely decompressed.
The challenges of interplanetary space travel are so vast, even radio waves which operate at the speed of light, take over a day to reach the Voyager probes.
Have you any idea of the complexity and unlikeliness?
You're the one making claims.
Provide proof.
By what method within the laws of physics is it possible to overcome the vast distances and how much energy does it require? By what means would one communicate with a civilisation that could overcome the vast distances?
You're the one who started this thread.
All you're doing is ducking and diving now.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 13:40:01 GMT
You're the one making debatable claims without proof, not me. I know the distances involved and the complexity of space travel. We can't even put men on Mars and bring them back despite having enough knowledge of physics to get spacecraft to Mars. The energy requirements to cross the galaxy at greater than light speed are difficult enough. Hit something (and space has lots of little somethings floating around) and the high speed vessel will have gone millions of miles before the air inside has completely decompressed. The challenges of interplanetary space travel are so vast, even radio waves which operate at the speed of light, take over a day to reach the Voyager probes. Have you any idea of the complexity and unlikeliness? You're the one making claims. Provide proof. By what method within the laws of physics is it possible to overcome the vast distances and how much energy does it require? By what means would one communicate with a civilisation that could overcome the vast distances? You're the one who started this thread. All you're doing is ducking and diving now. Well, it’s got you stimulated to post something worth a reply! Are you conversant with the ideas of ‘wormhole’ travel? … so at what stage have Black Project scientists got to … with worm hole travel, Vinny? Can they create portals through Dark Matter that fast track you through the fabric of space almost instantly? It’s what some UFO’s seem capable of … others have been calculated on radar doing speeds of 33,000 mph in our atmosphere … I don’t think the technology Skunk Works/Black Ops had in their early days … could mimic real alien technology. … some of which witnesses have observed appears to drop dimensionally in and out of our physical reality. Religion is playing with you Vinny … duping you tic tacs run on U.S. Back Ops ingenuity … and not alien technology … why are you being so gullible to accept their brain-washing?? … and roll with that theft of alien ideas? Since when has 😎Deep State 😎been ‘transparent’ over what they’re up to … get REAL dude! |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 11, 2024 14:19:15 GMT
Worm holes?
Mathematical model and relevant scientific data for examination please.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 18:36:10 GMT
On another thread … I mentioned I was banned from the Stargazers Lounge Forum for dropping a Link to a Youtube video of an object (magnified) that zoomed in and fragmented the incoming Chelyabinsk meteor in 2013 … causing the bulk of it to fall harmlessly into a frozen Russian lake. siberiantimes.com/weird-and-wonderful/news-and-features/news/so-did-a-ufo-shoot-down-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/There were a number of videos on YT showing what happened in slow motion … from a number of sources …. but strangely … as usual the religious authorities that own and censor Youtube … have had them all removed! How odd .. but typical of the censorship at play in the West today. If anyone can source the original clips … do drop them here. … Thanks. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 18:44:19 GMT
Ah … found a last direct Link to it … it’s just the Youtube Search engine that won’t deliver it up to viewers ….
Pretty sure there must be a debunk to this from someone in authority in the science community.
Just a pity Stargazers Lounge Moderators refused to give their Members the opportunity to analyse the footage in detail … and other clips too … and draw their own conclusions.
When religious censorship interferes with scientific analysis … you know it’s time to kick these censors out of control of all aspects of our Media … especially scientific Media.
Remember how long it took the Catholic Church to apologise for the imprisonment and torture of Galileo! …
359 years
The Vatican condemned Galileo in 1633 for his putatively subversive views, and threatened the scientist with a burning at the stake. Galileo took back his statement, but still lived under house arrest for the rest of his life. It took 359 years and the leadership of Pope John Paul II (left) to recognize the wrong.
The ignorant manipulators that run religions shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near Administration, Media or Science.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 11, 2024 18:49:53 GMT
That is not the same as a scientific model of how the physics work, a model which can be recreated by anyone and put to the test.  Not that science means anything to you, but this is the scientific method. Kindly frame your arguments within that method. You have a hypothesis which is untested. Kindly provide the information necessary for any of us to carry out our own experiments and put your theory to the test. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 19:05:24 GMT
You’ve had the evidence … if you refuse to look at it, analyse it, … and only censor and ridicule it (the Western Authority response) … then we no longer have any interest in your future projects or designs.
Kindly leave our building.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 19:25:00 GMT
A slightly clearer view of the object after the ‘hit’ … worth a look …
If this was an ‘intervention’ … have these ‘extraterrestrials’ got the ability to drop through one portal … and instantly drop out through another portal in our physical reality?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 19:45:41 GMT
It reminds me of this ‘teleportation’ incident ….
Note the two burnt rings on the road indicating the activation points of the two teleportation ‘portals’.
Interesting observation.
… maybe these things come thru the spaces in Dark Matter …possibly where the ‘soul’ goes to when our spirit leaves the physical world.
Interesting to calculate where this meteor would have landed … if this incident of fragmentation ( natural or ‘supernatural’) hadn’t happened.
Over a 1,000 people claimed injuries from broken glass from the sonic boom as this thing flew past … and it was very weird it landed so harmlessly in a frozen lake!
Divine intervention, eh?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 11, 2024 20:13:57 GMT
You've not produced any evidence you don't know the meaning of the word. Either provide evidence of what dark matter actually looks like or how it can be used to provide interstellar travel at faster than light speeds or concede that you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Very complicated mathematical models of dark matter here: academic.oup.com/mnras/article/449/1/403/1318411Kindly demonstrate WITH SCIENTIFIC MODELS WHICH WE CAN TEST, that what you say is possible instead of giving us crappy youtube vids. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 11, 2024 20:26:30 GMT
Here is a map of Russia showing detail of the meteor’s trajectory  …ending up in Chebarkul Lake …. If it hadn’t been hit … or exploded … and slightly deviated …it could have come down in the populated areas of Miass … or even Zlatoust??  … and likely created a sizeable crater, explosion and significant loss of life?? …. 🤔 Conclusion: The explosion came at a critical time to create the best possible scenario for all those on the ground in this region. Quite miraculous really. Maybe the Orthodox Pope should visit Lake Chebarkul … and lay a plaque acknowledging a significant, possibly extra-terrestrial, miraculous intervention event. If souvenir shops spring up … and they really cash in with ‘fake’ meteor fragments … the economy of the whole area might get a welcome boost! Go for it, Chebarkul! 🏦🏦👍 |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 11, 2024 21:04:24 GMT
Shame it didn't hit the Kremlin and wipe out the dictatorship.
Meanwhile you haven't answered my question.
Scientific model please.
If the maths are too complicated for you just concede.
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