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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 22, 2024 15:16:06 GMT
Because Sheepy was reluctant to open up discussion on the alien interrogation on his thread …. here it is edited and first dropped by Meni Things back @2015 I believe … this is a segment from P. 4 of this thread … to kick things off …. get people up to speed on the evidence … and look closely at the film and pointers suggesting it might be real. … my conclusion on close analysis was that the creature wasn’t CGI’d. Looking at the dark depressions above the eyes, as mentioned on the other Forum Archive, …. good observers will notice on each side a round dimple either side that pulses in the area a few inches above the brow … likely PROVING this is a real creature with a circulatory system … It is a very fine almost imperceptible detail most observers haven’t noticed when analysing this film. …. Note also the realistic way the brows rise and twitch when the entity is about to respond to the Interrogator over “origins of the Universe” …. sceptics ‘programmed’ by the CIA, will never acknowledge how difficult it is to fake this ‘interrogation’ to this standard … from multiple camera angles … impossible in the ‘60’s … easier today … but still hard to reach this realistic level. As mentioned before … This 1960’s footage was later likely released by Democrat cells within the CIA - edited/subtitled just before Trump’s election … in order to scare some elements away from voting Trump in 2016 …. the plot failed and Trump was surprisingly elected … like Brexit …the MSM hadn’t a clue about the mood in either Country. Notice there are glitches in the sound track which shows where the 2015 editor obscured certain words that didn’t suit the CIA narrative. This year the Electorate realised the Nuclear War threat referred to in this ‘interrogation’ was the recent “Cuban missile crisis” in Ukraine engineered by Biden, NATO and the DP pushing a Soros Posse destabilisation of Russia and China … we are still nudging closer to nuclear catastrophe … so the threat is still looming. Any comments analysing if this footage is real … most welcome. Note: 3 clips before the Election were available … it looks like multi-camera high grade film footage later edited and dropped into Youtube. … unfortunately this subjects it to fairly damaging compression by Youtube’s Internet download constrictions. A 4th clip was updated very recently after an 8 year delay … which I will discuss later … when members have had a chance to analysed this carefully. C'mon................
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 22, 2024 23:05:03 GMT
I have seen it before. I don not believe any such interrogation would be so clumsy and irrelevant. The interviewer seems to be goading the alien about a, perfectly plausible given the circumstances, claim of higher intelligence and talking about concepts which are subjective - (to illicit external interest?) I therefore think the conversation is fake (scripted). Yes, it could be … I thought the lip synch was poor … but Youtube does that to downloads. Some people quite enjoyed the philosophical stance of the alien’s argument … the cynical worldly wise of today and the religious lobby ….will naturally brand it ‘fake’ because the alien clearly establishes God as being an artificial human construct … much like TIME. It destroys the meaning of everything we are taught and conditioned to believe since birth …so naturally many people are hostile to accepting it being real. … but isn’t that the strength of the script? … it shatters their mindsets. … how many short conversations in so few words achieve that? People want to cling to believe there is meaning to Life, the Universe and Everything … an alien dropping in saying “sorry, the Universe being created was a random accidental event … Do get over yourselves and your clingy insecurities” …. that was quite refreshing to hear. My beliefs about the conceptual nature of TIME stop me believing the bit this entity is from a post-apocalyptic nuclear winter from the future … the sort of hominid we will evolve into … if we are forced to live underground. Maybe that bit was a lie … and he’s just a cryptid alien that lives mainly underground and is from the present? … but doesn’t want a nuclear war that destroys Life as we know it … and drives everybody underground into his habitats? Let’s just hope the warning has a lasting effect and stops the U.S. Military Complex and genocidal Israelis pushing their eastern expansionism to breaking point.🙄🤯
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Post by Vinny on Jan 24, 2024 14:50:03 GMT
What a load of absolute cobblers.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2024 7:54:00 GMT
What a load of absolute cobblers. This is Vinny’s idea of detailed video analysis.🙄 What do you think the pulse spot on the alien’s LHS orbital depression indicates Vinny?? … go on … stretch a braincell … give an honest personal opinion … that’s not scripted by Deep 😎State interests! 🤔😂
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2024 8:01:57 GMT
The lack of comment on the above suggests:
Either people are too scared to voice an honest opinion … or aren’t seriously interested in exploring evidence in detail?
If you are convinced this is ‘fake’ … please highlight the evidence that convinced you?
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Post by Orac on Jan 25, 2024 8:55:50 GMT
What a load of absolute cobblers. This is Vinny’s idea of detailed video analysis.🙄 What do you think the pulse spot on the alien’s LHS orbital depression indicates Vinny?? … go on … stretch a braincell … give an honest personal opinion … that’s not scripted by Deep 😎State interests! 🤔😂 It's an effect? Use a rubber bladder and valve to inflate. I ignore the effects though. The sophomoric conversation about the 'meaning of the universe' is kind of a giveaway (imho) . If someone makes a fake that has a believable dialogue then i will be stuck
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 26, 2024 13:44:18 GMT
This is Vinny’s idea of detailed video analysis.🙄 What do you think the pulse spot on the alien’s LHS orbital depression indicates Vinny?? … go on … stretch a braincell … give an honest personal opinion … that’s not scripted by Deep 😎State interests! 🤔😂 It's an effect? Use a rubber bladder and valve to inflate. I ignore the effects though. The sophomoric conversation about the 'meaning of the universe' is kind of a giveaway (imho) . If someone makes a fake that has a believable dialogue then i will be stuck Looks like Vinny didn’t accept the challenge, as usual. … another hot air BS merchant … like BS3🤔 ******************* … so Orac … let’s break this video down … which bits do you think are visually period circa 1960’s/70’s … 2014/5 CGI … and sound track/dialogue period or faked later? … bearing in mind sound track is much easier to manipulate. Some people say this dialogue is very 1960’s mindset philosophical exchange … so Meni Things … if he synthesised this … faked everything 2010-14 … then he captured the mindset and arrogance of Military Intelligence of the 60’s/70’s… perfectly. 👏 The alien body … if it was CGI’d or an animatronic with a barely perceptible sub cutaneous rubber bladder inserted under the skin … (on both sides if you notice v. carefully) … that is attention to detail of a ‘genius’ … and it’s a very expensive ‘fake’ - hard/impossible? to pull off in the 60’s/70’s … and arguably difficult to this degree in 2010-2014 when MT was likely working on this. Nobody online strangely had pointed out this visible ‘pulse’ … in all the years since it was dropped on Youtube … maybe they were just focusing to prove it was UNREAL/FAKE … where I was focusing on the idea it might possibly be REAL … and shock horror … BINGO … I discovered this ‘pulse’ sitting there winking at everyone in plain sight.Quite a convincing moment … likely proving this creature (conditioned to living in dark underground environments) … was a living thing, a very intelligent humanoid being … tortured in a way that would cause serious discomfort … truth drugs, bright flashing lights and electric shocks. V. MK Ultra of that period, tbh. Meni Things never put creation of this film on his CV … when I last looked. It was way beyond anything he had created in CGI at that time … if you look at his early work. No offence to MT … he’s talented … but back then … not THAT talented. You only need to look at his clumsy reworking in his new late ‘23 update drop Pt 4 … to realise his CGI skills are limited. Not his finest hour! … So I think he was just employed by Deep State to edit, tweak real film, and drop in/delete sound … of a REAL interrogation just b4 the Trump/Hillary election 2016. … another ‘false flag’ job in cahoots with the Democrat Party? 🤔 It failed to swing the vote … 👏 … but maybe it’s left us with an interesting insight into how Military Intelligence(?) were behaving at that time in our history? Real or fake … it’s a fascinating series of clips. …. It begs the more serious question - “Was it really ‘intelligent’ to be torturing aliens all through that post-WW2 period? … alien races with such superior technology?” These CIA Goons are arguably the most stupid idiots on the Planet. If you watch an interview of a ranchmen who describes first coming across the aliens associated with one of the 2 crashed discs associated with the Roswell collision … other witnesses confirmed this … they all noted how scared the uninjured surviving alien suddenly was … pretty agitated when the UFO military clean-up squads and security arrived … and then they started screaming at everyone … bullying and intimidating everyone … v. disturbing. … These aliens knew they were going to be treated v. badly … and were soon likely to die under torture. If you are a mostly peaceful Alien Civilisation who has widespread telepathic gifts like we have ‘conversation’ … you know the danger you are in if you openly land on the Whitehouse lawn … and the President is helpless to protect you from the violent psychotic goons buried well-hidden in Deep State.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2024 15:39:17 GMT
This is a debating forum. Your beliefs are unimportant.
Facts and evidence please not youtube cobblers.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 30, 2024 9:05:51 GMT
Ignore the warmongers trying to censor and remove contributors from this Forum ….
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Here is interesting historic footage from a UK UFO Conference. Unusually EOC doesn’t give details what year this was delivered.
A couple of interesting points drop from this:
1) … the incident when an abductee allegedly knocked the eye guard out on an alien ‘grey’ and it revealed red flashing lights planted in ‘flesh’ behind the shield - indicating these creatures might be android biotic humanoids …
This bit of information would fit in with observations made on the alien interrogation above … where the voice appeared rather robotic/synthesised and disconnected
… and correlates with witnesses intimidated by humanoid Men-in-Black CIA/ Government agent-types after close encounters … again humanoids giving off a robotic vibe.
2) … the fact spies and intelligence goons hung around these UFO info exchange conferences like flies on a chocolate gateau. …. proving what was being discussed was far from ‘irrelevant’ and ‘crackpot’.
Why bother if it was all a load of baloney? … why turn up at crash sites and cover retrieved craft in tarpaulin … and spirit it away and threaten people into silence …if the wreckage was just generated by fake pranksters?🤔
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 30, 2024 9:21:46 GMT
I think it is very important the BBC starts delivering wall-to-wall coverage of the detail that has come out of the U.S. Disclosure Project these last 25 years or more …
…. because they don’t want David Icke popping up declaring that the BBC Management are likely to be shape-shifting reptilians!
Come on BBC Management … prove to us you are not batting against the interests of the Human Race?? 🤔🧐
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 9:47:26 GMT
What would be important, is evidence. Something you never fail to fail to provide.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 31, 2024 17:58:31 GMT
As Orac mentioned … you are on the Internet here … hard evidence is in Deep State hangers. …
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 31, 2024 20:54:57 GMT
Here are a couple of ‘stills’ I took from a Shorts video that some people claim the pilot faked … Freezing the action … the second shot seems to show a metallic object glinting in the sun. … Note the orientation of this UFO … turned on it’s side and moving along ‘belly first’ … a bit similar to the recent Navy pilot tracking shots seen all over the Internet right now … ad nauseam!🙄
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Post by Vinny on Jan 31, 2024 22:24:09 GMT
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Post by Orac on Feb 2, 2024 8:36:58 GMT
It's an effect? Use a rubber bladder and valve to inflate. I ignore the effects though. The sophomoric conversation about the 'meaning of the universe' is kind of a giveaway (imho) . If someone makes a fake that has a believable dialogue then i will be stuck Some people say this dialogue is very 1960’s mindset philosophical exchange … so Meni Things … if he synthesised this … faked everything 2010-14 … then he captured the mindset and arrogance of Military Intelligence of the 60’s/70’s… perfectly. 👏 If the dialogue follows 60s cinema stereotypes, don't you feel that's a mark against it being real? People weren't stupid in the sixties, but the language and meaning of cinema was different. In my very humble opinion the dialogue is absurd. No member of the intelligence community is going to grill an alien life-form about 'the meaning of the universe' - what would be the point? so you can be potentially manipulated?
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