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Post by besoeker3 on Sept 15, 2023 16:59:21 GMT
Solid evidence is is crux but so far there has been none. What sort of evidence would you accept as solid? Absence of aliens. Ask Dublifter.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 16, 2023 7:26:07 GMT
… THESE ORGANISATIONS CAN’T BE TRUSTED TO DELIVER DISCLOSURE … they spent the last 70 years leading the cover-up. If those who trust modern day scientists and Authority to deliver them the truth and evidence of our history, and relationship with technologically highly advanced extra-terrestrial visitors … they are going to be sadly disappointed. Scientists have a habit of brushing aside and mythologising ALL historic tribal accounts of Contact with ‘Gods/extra-terrestrials’. A conflict is brewing between the current EVIL running Planet Earth today … that made it’s mark more recently on 9/11 … and other extra-terrestrial forces that want to save their Earth Eden project from NUCLEAR DESTRUCTION and GLOBALIST POLLUTERS. Reliable honest witnesses are currently the only modern evidence we have of CONTACT with extra-terrestrials and their advanced technology … they come forward to be pilloried by Authority liars and lazy ignorant sceptical scientists who have failed repeatedly to set up effective open public monitoring for SETI in our own backyard - Witnesses come forward to relate their experiences of direct contact with strange beings and incredible technological transporters … that have occasionally crashed, been retrieved and secretly reverse engineered mainly in the USA. Because the Media and especially the Deep State has hoovered up 99.99999% of the evidence that would satisfy a sceptical World … we are where we are today, bullied by a Totalitarian U.S.secret Military Complex and Religious Factions using that technology to create further inequality and suffering on this Planet. We have been given the run-around by today’s Leaders in most fields …. Yes, the SCUM really rose to the top … and now we have this situation … and people on here asking me to “deliver the evidence” … in this climate of Cover-up!? Hmmm … If I had a piece of crashed extra-terrestrial technology and an alien body in a chest freezer … and dropped the conclusive proof … enough to satisfy Besoeker 3 and Vinny here … the Authorities and Military would be around my house so fast … hoovering up …and nobbling witnesses … within a week nobody would know I existed and my birth certificate, educational record and career … every detail that made me a credible person and witness qualified to being believed …. would be put in ‘their shredder’. …. Bob Lazar and many others have had this v. bad experience … many have disappeared and died in mysterious circumstances trying to deliver Disclosure.
This whole catalogue of MURDER and DEFAMATION wouldn’t have happened if there was nothing to see here … would it? … Think about that point very carefully.
You’ve been ‘programmed’ to ignore extra-terrestrial creationism and history running this Planet.If People want to continue being a stupid little mouse in a laboratory experiment … running through a MAZE full of dead ends and deceptions … that’s up to them …. I’ve moved on and am happy to embrace expert witness testimony reports …. …. Maybe there will come a day when Deep State 😎 Authority and Scientists … and Religion … clean up their collective Act … and deliver us open honest Disclosure. …. but I’m sorry to say … I think these devils👹will deliver us Nuclear Annihilation well before that happens. Modern controllers have a different agenda … than transparency and TRUTH … and science, religion and Deep State control feels threatened by Disclosure strangely enough. Only religion should fear Disclosure … as it delivers Creationism reality … but not quite the way ancient Holy Books spun those narratives. As we all look up in the sky to see where we came from … we can only speculate who terraformed our key Planets and Moons from Sun plasma in a process we can see happening here in 2012. …. all the perfectly round bodies in our Solar System were ‘manufactured’ in this way … but scientists are happy to flannel the Public that Accretion Theory can deliver that ‘precision from scratch … when sufficient gravitational attraction forces are not present to create Planets and Moons from cosmic dust. Programmed Scientists will never rationalise that … a ‘creator’ technology has to be applied to generate smooth Planetary bodies with molten cores and dynamic volcanism. …. Jean’s Theory won’t quite deliver the gravity needed to create that manufactured look.🤔 It surprises me that scientists in the last 400 years haven’t put an ‘Extra-Terrestrial Creationism Theory’ on the table alongside all their other Solar System Theories that obviously don’t really deliver v.smooth planets with molten cores on formation. Especially now we have good evidence for it since 2012. … Staggering all their collective intelligences couldn’t deliver that? … I wonder why?? … for the last 400 years?? Perhaps it’s because they have been ‘prostitutes’ to secret Authority and Religious bullying for such a long time?? … Crooks and Charlatans who prefer to keep their ‘Gods’ mythological … unquestioned and unimpeachable. Footnote Comment:
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Post by Orac on Sept 16, 2023 9:16:35 GMT
The accretion theory problem is interesting.
My understanding -
The standing theory for planet formation is that material around our sun collects into knots due to gravitation and these knots get into a kind of gravity feedback loop in which the large knots of material collect the smaller knots and become ever larger. This sounds fine as a theory and deep time can do some heavy lifting - ie these processes supposedly happen over tens of millions of years.
The problem is that the detailed dynamic modeling of this situation doesn't appear to work well. My understanding (again) is that, when modeled, this isn't what to appears to happen. Instead, the bundles of material, when they reach a certain size, inevitably end up in a suicide pact with another similarly sized body and the material from both is significantly scattered, setting both back to zero and releasing varying sized chunks in random trajectories that act as killers for other bodies. In the simulation, you end up with an equilibrium in which all bodies end up a certain size and not much larger. It's interesting to think about.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 17, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
The accretion theory problem is interesting. My understanding - The standing theory for planet formation is that material around our sun collects into knots due to gravitation and these knots get into a kind of gravity feedback loop in which the large knots of material collect the smaller knots and become ever larger. This sounds fine as a theory and deep time can do some heavy lifting - ie these processes supposedly happen over tens of millions of years. The problem is that the detailed dynamic modeling of this situation doesn't appear to work well. My understanding (again) is that, when modeled, this isn't what to appears to happen. Instead, the bundles of material, when they reach a certain size, inevitably end up in a suicide pact with another similarly sized body and the material from both is significantly scattered, setting both back to zero and releasing varying sized chunks in random trajectories that act as killers for other bodies. In the simulation, you end up with an equilibrium in which all bodies end up a certain size and not much larger. It's interesting to think about. Yes, totally agree … and you can slot in “billions” of years into that modelling … that mimics Space vacuum conditions. … Accretion will only happen if particles are sticky or some sort of gravitational ‘nodule’ pops up to coalesce gas and dust … likely well away from fragmentary black hole forces, the antithesis, that destroy planets and their moons … likely tearing all matter apart into it’s elemental particles. . Maybe these gravitational nodules are created and nurtured by extra-terrestrial technologists? … that can create some sort of huge critical gaseous planetary sized mass in stages … until it reaches a desired size … it ejects permanently and goes on it’s cooling journey … in order to form a hard shell as new elements coalesce and evolve …a hot molten plasma ‘birthing’ core driving a creationist engine like a nuclear reactor … fusion rather than fission?? …. as solids build up under pressure, gestating practically invisible in the dark areas of our Solar System, roaming unnoticed … sometimes fleetingly spotted creating gravitational anomalies … like Planet X. Accretion Theory is clearly debunked here … by physicist Dr Claudia Albers. PhD. Note this video is 4 years old but only has 849 views … shocking eh? … for something that arguably simply destroys the Foundation of Solar System Formation Theory. … Has Youtube imposed a Views cap? … so it’s deliberately marginalised by algorithm manipulation? Has it deliberately been ignored by ‘conditioned’ scientists who aren’t interested or open-minded enough to change their POV on how our Solar System was created. … too scared to step out of line? … stand up to ridicule? … jeopardise precious careers. (Remember Youtube’s owners are covertly keen to suppress knowledge that opens up the interesting prospect extra-terrestrials might have a hand in our Creationism) It’s likely water and dust might be coagulating as ice asteroids in the Kyper Belt … but these aren’t bombarding Earth to create our oceans … or flying past us today as perfectly round accretion spheres of all sizes. Are new fully honed planets and moons popping out regularly from the Asteroid fields? … Not to my knowledge … what evidence has NASA detected and put forward to support it’s flakey water snowball delivery/accretion theories … very little, tbh. The 2012 example … shows evidence of plasma streaming to a Jupiter-sized plasma orb - how does that happen spontaneously? … and what determines the timing when it breaks the umbilical after ‘top-up’ and moves away to cool down? … presumably when these plasma gases and Sun elements cool … mysteriously held spherical by some ‘force field’ or gaseous gravitational effect that gas giants exhibit … do we eventually get planets? … and is Jupiter itself just a slow developer? … or a gas giant with a hidden core that just went ‘rogue and wrong’?? - Earth 3.0 that’s way behind schedule … and got stuck in Groundhog Day.🤔 We are just feeling our way to new Theory here … so anyone is welcome to throw in corrections and suggestions how this ‘birthing’ mechanism could work … and deliver a molten core like Earth has … and the Moon once had before it diminished … I wonder which solid elements form first from Sun plasma ejections? … and what temperatures and pressure(gravitational) force is required for those later fusions that create more elemental diversity.? More on that in my next post …
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Post by Orac on Sept 17, 2023 10:45:38 GMT
Dubs, sticking with things astronomical, a seam appears to be opening up further over the dreaded expansion rate of the universe.
There are two methods to arrive at the figure - one employs distance measurement, using Cepheid variables and measurement of supernova, and the other employs the cosmic background radiation. Both methods are becoming more accurate and removing assumptions and fudges, but as they do so, it is becoming more and more clear that the two measurements are not arriving at the same answer to the same question. The error bars on the two figures now no longer overlap - which probably means some remaining assumption somewhere is bad. The trouble is, the remaining assumptions seem to be more and more likely to be part of established theory. This is the sort of thing that gets people excited - history suggests that such apparent paradoxes often precede a significant shift in theory.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 17, 2023 11:35:57 GMT
Dubs, sticking with things astronomical, a seam appears to be opening up further over the dreaded expansion rate of the universe. There are two methods to arrive at the figure - one employs distance measurement, using Cepheid variables and measurement of supernova, and the other employs the cosmic background radiation. Both methods are becoming more accurate and removing assumptions and fudges, but as they do so, it is becoming more and more clear that the two measurements are not arriving at the same answer to the same question. The error bars on the two figures now no longer overlap - which probably means some remaining assumption somewhere is bad. The trouble is, the remaining assumptions seem to be more and more likely to be part of established theory. This is the sort of thing that gets people excited - history suggests that such apparent paradoxes often precede a significant shift in theory. It’s true Physics … especially astrophysics is in turmoil right now … so I feel ‘extra-terrestrial creationism’ that pushes Jean’s Theory in a new direction …. is a model that can help scientists find a new way through the mess they created with some of their ‘dogmas’. … with parts of Einstein’s theories now under serious attack … everything is up for grabs. I would be interested in joining a discussion on these Universe expansion variables in the Mind Zone … if you want to air it … …. I’m trying not to veer too far off topic here with this Creationist Theory … … in writing the piece above … you notice I mentioned ‘gravitational nodules’? … is this a new idea mentioned elsewhere? … I was just thinking aloud … they could be popping through wormholes in space naturally or be created by the gravitational technology used by extra-terrestrial engineers well before Americans stole their advanced ideas. Bob Lazar describes a gravitational core they recovered from a crashed extra-terrestrial craft … a small object that radically generated it’s own v. powerful gravitational field … he was hurriedly recruited to investigate(allegedly) …. when several key scientists were killed trying to cut into this thing. Creating ‘gravitational nodules’ artificially or naturally might be a catalyst for planetary-sized accretion events? …. Cores around which gas plasma could accrete spherically eventually cooling into the near perfect round planets and moons we see today. It’s an exciting idea … that I think has possibilities. Here’s one plasma ejection failure! (Skip to 3min) Naturally not many mass ejections of plasma seen here show any sort of top up potential to make a planet or moon .. as witnessed in the delayed lingering 2012 event. Alien gravitational technology is well advanced enough to drag these Planetary bodies and Moons around our (and other) Solar Systems into any stable configuration they wanted. Some interpretation here is open to question … as everything is. Take the moon anomaly discussed later in the video … just another plasma gas orb ‘caught on tour’ by the right angle of the Sun? … who knows … could easily be lens artefacts … or just our Moon poking through … or atmospheric miraging ??
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Post by Orac on Sept 17, 2023 12:01:01 GMT
I think it may be a little early to ditch Einstein Here is something to put things into perspective. Our current model of large galaxies separated by immense distances (millions of light years) has its origins in the 1920s. Up until that point, we mistakenly assumed that the Milky Way - ie one galaxy within our current model - was the entire universe and the galaxies we observed were nebula within the Milky Way. The existence of other galaxies was a complete re-evaluation and revolution - ie our model of the size of the universe expanded by 10 orders of magnitude overnight. Perhaps this is similar in some way? We build estimates on the basis of assumption and it is practically impossible to empirically check all the assumptions are unquestionably true.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 18, 2023 10:16:29 GMT
I think it may be a little early to ditch Einstein Here is something to put things into perspective. Our current model of large galaxies separated by immense distances (millions of light years) has its origins in the 1920s. Up until that point, we mistakenly assumed that the Milky Way - ie one galaxy within our current model - was the entire universe and the galaxies we observed were nebula within the Milky Way. The existence of other galaxies was a complete re-evaluation and revolution - ie our model of the size of the universe expanded by 10 orders of magnitude overnight. Perhaps this is similar in some way? We build estimates on the basis of assumption and it is practically impossible to empirically check all the assumptions are unquestionably true. Einstein is still regarded as being brilliant … rightly so …. but his one mistake was to take a human imaginary ‘conceptual’ phenomenon like TIME … and try and give it some sort of ‘physicality’ attaching it to another ‘conceptual idea’ SPACE-TIME. Then pretending TIME was elastic … not regular and metronomic. Unceasingly so! Tediously so … wherever you are … however fast you are travelling. Gullible scientists scurried down that rabbit hole … and we haven’t seen them rational since … and their Big Bang Theory assumptions didn’t help either … in an expanding and accelerating Universe. That was a lame nag that fell at the first fence, should have been put down long ago … but they persist in drawing more funding from our precious bank … and brain-washing students it’s still valid. Yes, there was a Big Bang … that caused patterns of cosmic radiation … was it the first and only BB?… they can’t say … Was it radiation from another Universe that blew through a small hole into our expanding Universe and dissipated slowly ? … Hmmm … a possibility? They continue to swear they can build an accurate atomic clock that’s immune to the forces of the Universe … and will never be convinced Time-dilation is a figment of their flawed measurements … distorted by momentum, atmospheric pressures, gravity, dark matter, cosmic lensing … or whatever else is out there in-between black holes, worm holes, strings etc.
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Post by Orac on Sept 18, 2023 11:11:42 GMT
I think it may be a little early to ditch Einstein Here is something to put things into perspective. Our current model of large galaxies separated by immense distances (millions of light years) has its origins in the 1920s. Up until that point, we mistakenly assumed that the Milky Way - ie one galaxy within our current model - was the entire universe and the galaxies we observed were nebula within the Milky Way. The existence of other galaxies was a complete re-evaluation and revolution - ie our model of the size of the universe expanded by 10 orders of magnitude overnight. Perhaps this is similar in some way? We build estimates on the basis of assumption and it is practically impossible to empirically check all the assumptions are unquestionably true. Einstein is still regarded as being brilliant … rightly so …. but his one mistake was to take a human imaginary ‘conceptual’ phenomenon like TIME … and try and give it some sort of ‘physicality’ attaching it to another ‘conceptual idea’ SPACE-TIME. Then pretending TIME was elastic … not regular and metronomic. Unceasingly so! Tediously so … wherever you are … however fast you are travelling. I think there is a possibility there is some issue with the nature of time, but I don't think relativity says much about time - other than it is a bit like space. On the time being elastic thing. I think a better way to think about this is in terms of perspectiveIf you close one eye and hold a foot ruler in front of your face, it looks like it is a foot long. However if you start to tilt the ruler, it looks like it gets shorter and shorter as you tilt it (perspective). Eventually when it is tilted 90 degrees the ruler has zero length from your perspective. However the ruler itself is not elastic. It's the same with time.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 18, 2023 22:43:19 GMT
Einstein is still regarded as being brilliant … rightly so …. but his one mistake was to take a human imaginary ‘conceptual’ phenomenon like TIME … and try and give it some sort of ‘physicality’ attaching it to another ‘conceptual idea’ SPACE-TIME. Then pretending TIME was elastic … not regular and metronomic. Unceasingly so! Tediously so … wherever you are … however fast you are travelling. I think there is a possibility there is some issue with the nature of time, but I don't think relativity says much about time - other than it is a bit like space. On the time being elastic thing. I think a better way to think about this is in terms of perspectiveIf you close one eye and hold a foot ruler in front of your face, it looks like it is a foot long. However if you start to tilt the ruler, it looks like it gets shorter and shorter as you tilt it (perspective). Eventually when it is tilted 90 degrees the ruler has zero length from your perspective. However the ruler itself is not elastic. It's the same with time. …. so in effect … what you’re saying is that the ruler(Time length) never actually changes in length … but just gives the illusion it’s shorter?… and Time ticks relentlessly the same … one second, one hour … whatever direction you travel and speed you go? … inelastic, no dilation … just clock error ?? … I’m not saying parallel multiverses don’t exist, maybe resonating on a different frequency to our Reality? … wormholes/windows might open up between multiverses running on different timelines … and in that way giving us a brief glimpse of events forwards or backwards in Time. Maybe other Universes … outside our Matrix … where matter has no bonds, allows spirit consciousness to exist and move around … it could coalesces as ‘ghost material’ when it again crosses over a dimension and tries to manifest within our emf frequency parameters? If you believe in the gift of clairvoyance … it appears some people seem to be able to master a transcendental state which enables them to tap into a different multiverse harmonic … drop into different Timelines and fleetingly watch some past event unfold … like a residual ripple in the ether … maybe a harmonic footprint left at certain locations where some trauma has happened?
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Post by Orac on Sept 18, 2023 23:07:14 GMT
I think there is a possibility there is some issue with the nature of time, but I don't think relativity says much about time - other than it is a bit like space. On the time being elastic thing. I think a better way to think about this is in terms of perspectiveIf you close one eye and hold a foot ruler in front of your face, it looks like it is a foot long. However if you start to tilt the ruler, it looks like it gets shorter and shorter as you tilt it (perspective). Eventually when it is tilted 90 degrees the ruler has zero length from your perspective. However the ruler itself is not elastic. It's the same with time. …. so in effect … what you’re saying is that the ruler(Time length) never actually changes in length … but just gives the illusion it’s shorter?… and Time ticks relentlessly the same … one second, one hour … whatever direction you travel and speed you go? … inelastic, no dilation … just clock error ?? … I’m not saying parallel multiverses don’t exist, maybe resonating on a different frequency to our Reality? … wormholes/windows might open up between multiverses running on different timelines … and in that way giving us a brief glimpse of events forwards or backwards in Time. Maybe other Universes … outside our Matrix … where matter has no bonds, allows spirit consciousness to exist and move around … it could coalesces as ‘ghost material’ when it again crosses over a dimension and tries to manifest within our emf frequency parameters? If you believe in the gift of clairvoyance … it appears some people seem to be able to master a transcendental state which enables them to tap into a different multiverse harmonic … drop into different Timelines and fleetingly watch some past event unfold … like a residual ripple in the ether … maybe a harmonic footprint left at certain locations where some trauma has happened? On the time thing you are now getting closer to what relativity means. However, it's not clock error. If you twist the ruler i described ion front of your face, it doesn't look shorter because your eyes are erroring - it's looks shorter because of the rules of perspective. The ruler looks shorter from your perspective
In relativity it's the same - a second looks shorter (or longer) from one perspective than does from from another. In normal geometry, the different perspectives arise from viewing the ruler from different places in the room, while, in relativity, the different perspectives come from viewing the ruler (or second) at different speeds. Nothing really happens to the seconds themselves - it's how we view them that changes. The physical reality itself doesn't change because we are moving quickly, rather the sense we make of it does change. It is a tough idea to get your head around. All I can say about the last part of your post is that have reason to suspect we are all in a much larger story than we realise. However, i have no way to prove this - it's an impression i get, like a glimpse in a dream.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 18, 2023 23:17:27 GMT
For those who haven’t seen the Unsolved Mysteries docu-drama of the Kecksburg UFO crash and cover-up … here it is linked and showing on the Pluto TV app. pluto.tv/on-demand/movies/episode-1-3-1-ptv24?utm_source=plutotv&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=1000201&utm_content=1000735One of the best documented UFO retrievals scientists and the MSM media have collectively ignored in the last 50 years.… a scandalous cover-up … which shows exactly what researcher are up against … a Military determined to Flannel the tax-payers that fund them. Time for change … removal of this corrupt duplicitous authoritarian cancer within our Western Society … that denies us the truth about extra-terrestrial visitation and it’s history. At least the weird hieroglyphs seen on the side of this craft indicate to Earth civilisations exactly who the originators of very early ancient texts were … extra-terrestrials. Interesting to note that back on Dec 9th 1965 … the U.S. Military was able to reverse engineer a one piece acorn-shaped craft with no entrance or means of visible propulsion that could fly through the air and deviate and crash in woods unscathed, pulse light like a welder’s torch, yet sustain no damage. 🤣 Maybe it’s time to put this wondrous acorn on display to the public … with all the other crashed UFO’s the Authorities have recovered?? …. Surely it would become the “Greatest Show on Earth” right now … for the last few days b4 the nuclear war NATO are pushing for, kills our Planet. The time is NOW … no more BS and flannel. … People here want to see the evidence … and primitive modern Earth scientists need to be educated as to the potential of new propulsion technology.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 19, 2023 8:41:38 GMT
On the time thing you are now getting closer to what relativity means. However, it's not clock error. If you twist the ruler i described ion front of your face, it doesn't look shorter because your eyes are erroring - it's looks shorter because of the rules of perspective.
The ruler looks shorter from your perspective
In relativity it's the same - a second looks shorter (or longer) from one perspective than does from from another. In normal geometry,the different perspectives arise from viewing the ruler from different places in the room, while, in relativity, the different perspectives come from viewing the ruler (or second) at different speeds. Nothing really happens to the seconds themselves - it's how we view them that changes. The physical reality itself doesn't change because we are moving quickly, rather the sense we make of it does change. It is a tough idea to get your head around. The clocks are incredibly accurate, and measured as such, stood still in the same place, no denying that experimentally, … but as soon as you move them a fraction in geometric space … one above the other, …. subject them and their components to gravitational changes, slight planetary air pressure changes, inertia/momentum changes, space rocket zero gravity changes, possibly invisible Dark Matter variables(?), magnetic anomalies …
… then these clocks are arguably measuring those variables … not time dilation/elasticity imho.
I tried to discuss the accuracy of atomic clocks on Stargazers Lounge … and a respected scientific contributor got a bit upset, and the Moderators bizarrely shut the thread. It was like “this is Established, this is not up for discussion, you are trolling” …. It was at this moment I realised these scientists and the Moderators that protected them from challenge … weren’t open-minded to having their experiments analysed and criticised … they had set themselves up as a God-like elite … stood on high looking down on ordinary people from their ivory towers and Institutes … in a sneery condescending way … and used CENSORSHIP to prop up their fading careers and arguably defunct analysis.
… These Institutions just set themselves up for a fall, from a great height … and Astrophysics and it’s Laws are now primed to be torn apart. (See * Footnote Social Comment] **************** Tackling your points made in BOLD … checking out the two underlined sections … … 1) … You can’t look at TIME … it’s not visible! It’s conceptual. … A figment of Human - arguably Alien imagination - (if you believe that in ancient history we were “made in the image of the Father” - the Gods) ….2) … TIME cannot have any ‘geometry’ … it’s nothing tangible and physical. … Space-Time is also ‘conceptual’ … you can’t apply Laws and scientific measurement to an imaginary CONCEPT. … end of argument I guess 😂 … because all that SCIENCE has built on that ‘CONCEPT’ for over the last 100 years now …. falls apart … rather alarmingly! 😖 Call it the ‘scientific Dark Age’ … to some people who were open-minded … and looked at witness reports … aware of highly advanced alien technology … it’s been 100 years of a really Dark Age … several World Wars … and chaos … backward technology. … dressed up as ‘advancement’. … and Humanity regressing in the mainstream … advancing in isolated pockets at the periphery. As Oppenheimer said “I am the destroyer of Worlds” (see my new “nuclear damage” video in the big Ukraine thread I’ve written in a lot lately) …. let’s pray this one isn’t turned to ashes … coming back from this ashen state is such a backward step for Planet Earth. [*Footnote Social Comment] … We are looking to new Gods now … long overdue. … far more advanced Extra-terrestrial technology and Laws … currently being hidden from mainstream science by a secret very nasty Group of ‘Mafia’-type Cabals. … that will finally have to be destroyed … to save Planet Earth as we know it - and all it’s Flora and Fauna.
Humans have to take a leap of Faith that destroying the American/Israeli Deep State/Religious complex currently bullying the World into a ruinous state … is the only way forward … to preserve a considerable amount of Humanity left now. Most people here are really good at heart.
Multiculturalism/Globalism and broken borders - was a 70-year post-WW2 DISASTER EXPERIMENT that eventually heralded in, and grew into a new ‘FASCISM’ - now bringing ‘chaos’. A Dark Age period that let these super rich Secret Cabals take over the Planet for the last few hundred years … and puppet us to a life of slavery, war, misery and suffering … dressed up by Religion as ‘happy clappy’ unity for tribes with very different ideologies and desires … that should never have been FORCED TOGETHER.
WE TRIED IT … IT DIDN’T WORK … GET OVER IT … LET THE NEW WAY FORWARD COME FROM PEACEFUL PEOPLE CELEBRATING THEIR DIFFERENCES AT COMMUNITY LEVEL, … without BULLYING and BLOCKING FREE SPEECH.
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Post by besoeker3 on Sept 19, 2023 12:59:16 GMT
Yet MORE speculation, Dublifter. Why can't you ever provide hard facts?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 20, 2023 11:38:17 GMT
Yet MORE speculation, Dublifter. Why can't you ever provide hard facts? … Because crashed extra-terrestrial craft and bodies of alien pilots are mostly in American hands. … you need to understand your demands for ‘evidence’ can’t be delivered over the Internet from posters who don’t possess craft, debris and bodies.🙄 I am surprised you claim to be a project engineer and can’t grasp that simple logical fact. 🙄 Moving on: Here is an interesting U.S. military man’s account … from the INSIDE of this Cover-up …
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