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Post by Tinculin on Jan 1, 2023 15:01:19 GMT
I have been to Roswell and Area 51 - and can confirm there are definitely Aliens there..  I thought these aliens were supposed to be short and here is undeniable photographic evidence of them not only being twenty foot tall, they’re shamelessly working in plain sight holding up placards for resturants!!! Clearly this is the next step the Deep State is taking to fool us all into normalisation that aliens live among us while our population is infiltrated at every level!! We’ve been brainwashed all along! |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 4, 2023 9:38:08 GMT
I have been to Roswell and Area 51 - and can confirm there are definitely Aliens there.. I thought these aliens were supposed to be short and here is undeniable photographic evidence of them not only being twenty foot tall, they’re shamelessly working in plain sight holding up placards for resturants!!! Clearly this is the next step the Deep State is taking to fool us all into normalisation that aliens live among us while our population is infiltrated at every level!! We’ve been brainwashed all along! The brain-washing has reached the level where what we thought were intelligent people and even scientists are taking the piss out of the observational testimonies of astronauts, pilots and policemen … a very dangerous thing to do imo. By treating this subject as a joke …Authority engaging in lies and cover-up … threatening witnesses into silence and removing/destroying evidence that should be in museums for ALL scientists to openly analyse … we now have a Deep State that cannot be trusted … that is putting Earth’s security at serious risk … setting back scientific development, grossly distorting the history of our origins. … duping the Public. When we look out at the night sky, we see light that has taken millions of years to reach us. That's the fastest thing known to exist. To get here from another planet, it would have to be close. Also, our solar system has no other inhabited planets. So what system would another race come from ? How long would it take to get here, and why would they bother? It seems very strange to go to such extreme lengths and not say hello in a big way. Addressing Vinny’s more serious points … Having for 50 years looked at the history of UFO/alien reports from all over the World … even from isolated cultures who weren’t educated by Western Media … it’s clear to most people they’ve already said ‘hello’ in the biggest ways possible. Trawling religious culture archaeology that talks of sky gods and vimanas … that paints Nazca line graffiti in deserts only appreciated from the air … well before Earthlings developed the technology to fly and rise up high enough off this planet to appreciate the symmetry of these designs …. It’s time to stop the ridicule programme and grow up …. - only scientists, religion and authority continue to deny their existence … and lie to the Public about our origins. Scientists and others need to stop trying to fathom this issue from a human perspective … we are scientifically/intellectually primitive in comparison to alien visitors and planetary terra-formers who have been flying around multiverses for billions of years. They likely have other ways of getting from A=>B than using ‘fossil fuels’. Coal and refined oil are probably not common commodities in the Universe?? We haven’t the brains to figure out how they do this yet …just because it doesn’t fit our MATHS doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Observation is REALITY …. NOT mathematical probability. youtu.be/zcInt58juL4Note the way this scientist dismisses a world of evidence of alien visitation in one neat sentence?? Btw, … Roswell and Earth wasn’t a ‘shit-hole’ until Earth’s scientists, religion and authority created all the ‘shit’ we have to contend with.… on that track record … humans and especially mentally subnormal “Dr Strangelove” Americans and Israelis tampering in Ukraine … cannot be trusted with this technology. No need to reason if aliens can technologically reach here or why they came … they’ve been here before modern humans … pure observation of the evidence they left behind proves that … in the signs they left behind … the ones that our ‘religious zealots’ haven’t managed to destroy and remove. We just need scientists and archaeologists that haven’t been brain-washed to deny their existence … in positions of ‘Authority’ …. only then will Humanity move forward. Not all ancient astronaut theory is valid … but there is enough compelling evidence out there for scientists to stop ‘playing dumb’ about all this … and giggling like schoolgirls about 30ft little green men. 🙄 If they want to be in charge of 🤡🤡🤡 World … maybe it’s time for change at the top? 🤔 |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 4, 2023 9:57:17 GMT
I have been to Roswell and Area 51 - and can confirm there are definitely Aliens there.. Why would anyone go there? … unless there is a good museum to what happened? … with good genuine evidence in it?… The idea you would still find a piece of genuine wreckage at the crash site is v. unlikely … … Maybe one day the locals will be able to reclaim their town from the weirdoes …. but only when Authority and Science sets up serious studies and museums of evidence of this important subject all over the World … which contain the advanced materials, spaceships and technologies from alien civilisations that all scientists can study(not just greedy selfish bullying Americans/Israelis with Imperialist ambitions) … We need to study the cryogenically preserved bodies of some of these beings from other star systems. … to see how they evolved on alien worlds … we have enough of a cross-section of them … to create an attraction everyone in the World would be interested to study in detail. Yet current Authority denies us that RIGHT. Time to peacefully remove these “rotten apples” in the Pentagon barrel. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 4, 2023 10:09:32 GMT
Consider the early 1960's, someone out in the middle of nowhere sees this (but wheels up):  Even now the Lockheed A-12 looks other worldly.  Back when it was top secret and not known about, it would have looked to the uninformed eye, like a spaceship. A UFO. That's what they test at Area 51, top secret aircraft. |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 4, 2023 11:04:24 GMT
I have been to Roswell and Area 51 - and can confirm there are definitely Aliens there.. Why would anyone go there? … unless there is a good museum to what happened? … with good genuine evidence in it?… The idea you would still find a piece of genuine wreckage at the crash site is v. unlikely … … Maybe one day the locals will be able to reclaim their town from the weirdoes …. but only when Authority and Science sets up serious studies and museums of evidence of this important subject all over the World … which contain the advanced materials, spaceships and technologies from alien civilisations that all scientists can study(not just greedy selfish bullying Americans/Israelis with Imperialist ambitions) … We need to study the cryogenically preserved bodies of some of these beings from other star systems. … to see how they evolved on alien worlds … we have enough of a cross-section of them … to create an attraction everyone in the World would be interested to study in detail. Yet current Authority denies us that RIGHT. Time to peacefully remove these “rotten apples” in the Pentagon barrel. If you want to see advanced materials, space ships and materials that are not from this world in a museum, you can already and I’ve been there. Kennedy Space Centre. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 6, 2023 12:12:18 GMT
Admirable as these efforts are .. to replicate the performance of craft from other star systems … expert witnesses in the military/police and aviation industries familiar seeing both types of craft … terrestrial v extra-terrestrial … claim the human designed craft are a million miles away from achieving the performance of visitor vehicles which run on entirely different technologies not based around fossil fuel propulsion … 🤔
…. for obvious reasons. Lol. .
…. carrying refined oil from star-systems with coal/oil deposits isn’t practical. … You need propulsion technology based around gravity/electricity/and solar/molten heat conversion.
…. and in many cases force-field protection that can enable craft to navigate high gravitational wormholes in our Multiverse.
Some arrogant Captain America Deep State CIA Dr Strangeloves in the Pentagon and secret bases around America like to think the Universe revolves around their buttholes and their largely arguably stolen scientific achievements …👏😋 a sadly deluded gung-ho needy bunch of immigrants driven to some degree by Hollywood Fantasy and delusion. 🙄
When I say “stolen” … I mean in much the same way as ‘Concordski’ was created … the current Top Secret UFO programme the U.S. has running today … which hasn’t been posted above by the Langley Posse … was “stolen” from crashed/retrieved and bartered alien technology … and reverse engineered.
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(We discussed this on the other Forum in more detail … but the Yanks pulled that … apologies to those denied the original 30-page UFO/Alien threads. If anyone is interested in me reawakening posts from those threads in Fringe Meetings here … let me know …and when I get time … I’ll drop the highlights.)
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Post by Vinny on Jan 6, 2023 12:23:41 GMT
Where's the evidence that such craft even exist ?
Where's the science behind such craft being possible ?
The faster a craft goes in space, the more damage is done if it hits anything.
A spacecraft going at 1/3rd of the speed of light, could be destroyed by a collision with a pea sized meteorite (force equals mass x acceleration.
So, where is the evidence ?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 7, 2023 13:14:22 GMT
Where's the evidence that such craft even exist ? Where's the science behind such craft being possible ? The faster a craft goes in space, the more damage is done if it hits anything.
A spacecraft going at 1/3rd of the speed of light, could be destroyed by a collision with a pea sized meteorite (force equals mass x acceleration.So, where is the evidence ? We’ve discussed where most of the evidence is secreted… the 70+ year Cover-Up programme is a reality to most people who haven’t been lobotomised for over half a century.🙄 Naturally, for those engineering 🤡 World … they will continue to deny everything. AC3BCA13-EE8B-4CF6-B94D-07819BB84DB1.webp (12.81 KB) Moving on If our scientists would only stop giggling like schoolgirls, stop grovelling to religious dictates and grant money… and got off their lazy arses and actually studied the technology behind alien propulsion systems as described by many witnesses who had direct contact with visitors … then they might have cracked gravitational drive systems long ago. Only The Religious Posse held them back … and made them dance to their tune. They conditioned them to waste 30 years ignoring scientist whistleblowers and witnesses - even Bob Lazar … who for a limited period worked on retrieved UFO craft in secret U.S. facilities … You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to realise that UFO craft moving at incredible speeds through generation of a gravitational forcefields wouldn’t hit anything … because the powerful field itself would deflect any particles along the moving surface of the contoured capsule … that’s why the saucer-shape was such a perfect design … for instantaneous multi-directional shifts at incredible speed …. leaving no chem trails or thermal signatures. So easy to outwit Vinny’s special project primitive smelly carbon burning craft that needed at least ½ mile to turn around! … Humans think their Projects are the bees knees … sadly to alien cultures they are laughably inept attempts to get off the ground and fight wars. … it’s interesting to speculate what happened in the 2 saucer Roswell collision/explosion … maybe physicists who are studying these systems today … might like to comment here freely … share their ideas?? |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 7, 2023 20:21:36 GMT
70 years eh ? Conveniently happens to be the era of this:  The Northrop YB49, a predecessor of the B2.  Northrop N1M. It's no coincidence that when top secret aircraft started being produced, "UFO's" became a convenient distraction.  Northrop N9M.  Northrop YB35  Northrop B2 Spirit. All of these aircraft, look like UFOs, so could UFOs be man made highly classified aircraft from US government black programmes ? I think so. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 9, 2023 9:30:13 GMT
When Deep State/Religion is engaged to COVER - UP the biggest secret ever known … that Earth is a laboratory experiment Eden Project created by extra-terrestrials. …. they are going to go to great lengths to mimic the designs of craft that these visitors use to flit largely unobserved at night … engaged in their manipulations. … the big difference between Vinny’s ‘decoy duck’ model aircraft and the REAL thing … is the ‘decoy ducks’ make incredible noise … as they use combustion engine propulsion systems … they can’t hover and turn on a sixpence. Nice try Vinny … but “no cigar”. Most expert witnesses describe silence … or a low buzzing electrical noise … electrical/gravitational effects to nearby motor vehicles and humans/animals … radiation damage effects too. … Vinny’s ‘fake imitation’ Projects don’t operate like that … and certainly won’t deliver a human across Star-Systems or through ‘worm-holes’ in the Multiverse. Here is a suppressed video that might show objects around our Sun hitting the hyperdrive button and jumping back and forth through a ‘wormhole’.youtu.be/gI4BK7pYTY0U.S. Taxpayers have been badly short-changed by Deep State charlatans … wasting $$$billions on $$$$billions on a whole series of ‘lame duck’ imitation UFO’s that can’t even make the right ‘quacking noise’! Clearly a hidden rogue sector of Military Intelligence in the Pentagon … devoid of ‘intelligence’ … and ‘quackers’ to boot. … I hear they are even faking cattle mutilations now. 🙄 … wow … sick eh? |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 9, 2023 10:00:29 GMT
When Deep State/Religion is engaged to COVER - UP the biggest secret ever known … that Earth is a laboratory experiment Eden Project created by extra-terrestrials. …. they are going to go to great lengths to mimic the designs of craft that these visitors use to flit largely unobserved at night … engaged in their manipulations. … the big difference between Vinny’s ‘decoy duck’ model aircraft and the REAL thing … is the ‘decoy ducks’ make incredible noise … as they use combustion engine propulsion systems … they can’t hover and turn on a sixpence. Nice try Vinny … but “no cigar”. Most expert witnesses describe silence … or a low buzzing electrical noise … electrical/gravitational effects to nearby motor vehicles and humans/animals … radiation damage effects too. … Vinny’s ‘fake imitation’ Projects don’t operate like that … and certainly won’t deliver a human across Star-Systems or through ‘worm-holes’ in the Multiverse. Here is a suppressed video that might show objects around our Sun hitting the hyperdrive button and jumping back and forth through a ‘wormhole’.youtu.be/gI4BK7pYTY0U.S. Taxpayers have been badly short-changed by Deep State charlatans … wasting $$$billions on $$$$billions on a whole series of ‘lame duck’ imitation UFO’s that can’t even make the right ‘quacking noise’! Clearly a hidden rogue sector of Military Intelligence in the Pentagon … devoid of ‘intelligence’ … and ‘quackers’ to boot. … I hear they are even faking cattle mutilations now. 🙄 … wow … sick eh? LOL!!!! Where's the evidence ? Shaky videos that could be created on a home computer using a video editing suite do not count. Area 51 was chosen by Clarence Kelly Johnson of Lockheed as an out of the way place to test classified spy planes and stealth aircraft. UFO myths provided convenient cover and a way of dismissing what local people were seeing when extremely high speed classified aircraft such as the Lockheed A-12 buzzed them. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 11, 2023 5:58:52 GMT
When Deep State/Religion is engaged to COVER - UP the biggest secret ever known … that Earth is a laboratory experiment Eden Project created by extra-terrestrials. …. they are going to go to great lengths to mimic the designs of craft that these visitors use to flit largely unobserved at night … engaged in their manipulations. … the big difference between Vinny’s ‘decoy duck’ model aircraft and the REAL thing … is the ‘decoy ducks’ make incredible noise … as they use combustion engine propulsion systems … they can’t hover and turn on a sixpence. Nice try Vinny … but “no cigar”. Most expert witnesses describe silence … or a low buzzing electrical noise … electrical/gravitational effects to nearby motor vehicles and humans/animals … radiation damage effects too. … Vinny’s ‘fake imitation’ Projects don’t operate like that … and certainly won’t deliver a human across Star-Systems or through ‘worm-holes’ in the Multiverse. Here is a suppressed video that might show objects around our Sun hitting the hyperdrive button and jumping back and forth through a ‘wormhole’.youtu.be/gI4BK7pYTY0U.S. Taxpayers have been badly short-changed by Deep State charlatans … wasting $$$billions on $$$$billions on a whole series of ‘lame duck’ imitation UFO’s that can’t even make the right ‘quacking noise’! Clearly a hidden rogue sector of Military Intelligence in the Pentagon … devoid of ‘intelligence’ … and ‘quackers’ to boot. … I hear they are even faking cattle mutilations now. 🙄 … wow … sick eh? LOL!!!! Where's the evidence ? Shaky videos that could be created on a home computer using a video editing suite do not count. Area 51 was chosen by Clarence Kelly Johnson of Lockheed as an out of the way place to test classified spy planes and stealth aircraft. UFO myths provided convenient cover and a way of dismissing what local people were seeing when extremely high speed classified aircraft such as the Lockheed A-12 buzzed them. CIA stooges like you aren’t interested in ‘evidence’ of any type, Vinny … you proved that by trashing the 30 page discussion on UFO’s and aliens on the old Forum …. there was plenty of good evidence presented there, gathered from a wide range of v. reputable sources … so there is no point wasting my time responding to precious Archive-trashers who say “where is the evidence??” CIA Headquarters is happy to gather evidence and make it disappear very very rapidly😎 … and deny it existed, intimidate witnesses, make death threats, even make people ‘disappear’ permanently. That is what investigators have been continually up against … especially since WW2. The latest ‘fake decoy duck’ UFO enquiry over the USS Nimitz videos conducted by Congress is putting things even further under wraps … and going after researchers uncovering the technology the U.S. Military arguably ‘stole’ from extra-terrestrial ingenuity … yet somehow refuse to acknowledge the original intellectual property owners …some of whom have likely filed their copyright claims on distant planets in star systems the U.S. is too disabled to visit right now. Americans can complain about the Chinese and Russians stealing their ideas … Americans just claim the copyright holders of UFO technology just don’t exist …$$$$$ kerchiiinggg $$$$$ …. world markets secured! ….when they get around to sharing their ‘stolen’ intellectual property with the World.🙄 |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 11, 2023 8:08:03 GMT
Evidence?
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 11, 2023 10:31:58 GMT
Evidence isn't something the conspiracy theorist community deals with. Wild, baseless, make-believe stories are their currency whilst holding everyone else to scrutiny via the lense of their pseudo-science. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 11, 2023 10:34:30 GMT
UFO reporting didn't start until mankind was in the early days of space exploration.
Why is that?
Where were the visits from little green men in the 19th century or earlier?
Before the idea of space travel when a strange light was seen in the sky it was thought to be angels or other supernatural beings.
There were no stories of people abducted by aliens, instead people were taken by fairies.
People will always invent something to explain away what they don't understand.
That's how we ended up with gods.
Saying that, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Dubs being away with the fairies.
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