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Post by om15 on Jan 4, 2023 10:56:17 GMT
Not on this side of the debate it isn't.
I don't spew Jock hating tripe, merely point out alternative viewpoints to your enraged and mainly inaccurate explosive comments.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 4, 2023 11:30:11 GMT
Not on this side of the debate it isn't. I don't spew Jock hating tripe, merely point out alternative viewpoints to your enraged and mainly inaccurate explosive comments. Said the self appointed expert on Scottish politics. Yes you do spew Jock hating tripe. Post after post after post. What was the last description. Ah Retards. What was the Description before that Ah.. they inter breed. And so on.. That in the last week or so. Amongst others. As you rant you do not spew Jock hating tripe. Each time I post you reply with stupid insults ranting I am on drugs need medication everything I say is made up and so on. . And you have just done it again. I do not know how many times I have asked you. Go and pick out any one of my how did you phrase it this time . ah enraged and mainly inaccurate explosive comments. Then correct it. It is as simple as that. As I do with your bile. Doing so now. I do not know how many times you do need asking. And you do not have a view point. You rant drivel. Each and every one of your posts is 100% wrong. Now on your latest stupidity about a break away region te he you are so funny. It show not only your stupidity but your utter contempt for the Scots. Expect the same back. As you have just been told by another . No one gives a flying f'#k about your hate filled bile. As far as I am concerned . I have given up even attempting to understand what makes the beatles birl in your grey matter. I treat you with the contempt you deserve. Just live your sad life. I cannot help you. You never have or ever will have anything to offer or contribute on the Scottish forum. Be comforted by the fact. You are not alone |
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Post by happyjack on Jan 4, 2023 13:33:28 GMT
www.politico.eu/article/ireland-gdp-growth-multinationals-misleading/the article in the link above gives a good and straightforward explanation of why Ireland’s GDP gives a false impression of where things are really at for the Irish people ie. “ Employing GNI* and adjusting for higher Irish prices, Honohan finds that Ireland comes only 12th in EU prosperity. Its economic activity per head of population falls behind the U.K., the Nordics, Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and — as always — Luxembourg”.
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Post by thomas on Jan 4, 2023 13:34:25 GMT
We did. We wanted to stay part of a uk that was in the EU , and now clearly cant have that , so a new vote , either via elections or referenda , must and will be held.
Without the EU , the uk holds no interest for most scots , especially the under 60 `s
I mean, I voted remain, I think leaving the EU was a poor idea so understand your reasoning. As are many scots who voted remain in both 2014 and 2016 , now being forced to pick which union they want to be part of. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 4, 2023 13:59:43 GMT
www.politico.eu/article/ireland-gdp-growth-multinationals-misleading/the article in the link above gives a good and straightforward explanation of why Ireland’s GDP gives a false impression of where things are really at for the Irish people ie. “ Employing GNI* and adjusting for higher Irish prices, Honohan finds that Ireland comes only 12th in EU prosperity. Its economic activity per head of population falls behind the U.K., the Nordics, Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and — as always — Luxembourg”. Earnings have nothing to do with GDP. It is complete waffle and a red herring in some bizarre attempt to divert from reality. For some reason I have dented the English ego and delusions. Why I have no idea what that problem is. . It is more than obvious the Uk economy is basket case. The link given from the Irish bank which states exactly what I said is a opinion. I have posted what GDP means and I am not going over it again. Now I have given 5 links, the data supplied by the IMF and the World bank. Which is fact. All of which states the UK is the 14th Richest country in Europe and between the 28th and 38th Richest in the world. That is basket case.. Could you point out where it is wrong. Opinions I do not need. . Now if you are going by rich earning. Then perhaps you should take in poverty to boot into account.. . England is a world leader. .There are 3.9 million children in poverty in England. That is more than 25%..Or 8 in a class of 30. More than one in five in England (22%) are in poverty. That is 14.5 million people. Nearly 3 time the population of Scotland., Of these, 8.1 million are working-age adults, 4.3 million are children and 2.1 million are pensioners. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 5, 2023 16:42:50 GMT
The UK historically wanted Scotland in the Union for manpower, bigger market and having no mainland UK border.
Now I think they are resigned to losing Scotland to the detriment of our security and this might Falklands excepted lead to an end to our military adventuring abroad.
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 17:00:08 GMT
The UK historically wanted Scotland in the Union for manpower, bigger market and having no mainland UK border. Now I think they are resigned to losing Scotland to the detriment of our security and this might Falklands excepted lead to an end to our military adventuring abroad. you could be right bancroft , but as a man whose family is steeped in the uk military , i dont think anyone could possibly argue with or without scotland , the uk military has been declining now for the best part of the last century or slightly less.
Apart from the global superpowers , regional powers like France or the uk and many others are now relying more and more on international if not global organisations for security like NATO or the proposed EU defence force .
When you have former us military taking the piss that the british army couldnt fill a "soccer Stadium" in Qatar , when a hundred years ago it could put a million men in the field , you know the game is up.
the uk over relies according to reports on the american missle system , for international clout , to the detriment from all recent reports of its conventional armed forces.
I think we have to recognise days gone by are not coming back , and move forward in the new world .
During the libyan bombing campaigns , the uk was being mocked that wee denmark , the size of scotland , flew more bombing raids than the UK.
However you wish to judge things , the uk military is in decline. That doesnt mean it isnt one of the best trained and organised , but merely it is not longer the power it was for a variety of reasons. We can hide it behind a changing world , changing technology anything you like. Whatever the measurement , the uk is no longer a world power capable of undertaking "military adventures " as in days gone past.
For many decades uk foreign policy has largely been about hanging onto the coat tails of the yanks to in turn protect "british interests " abroad as the uk was militarily , and financially incapable of doing so in many cases .
Just an honest apprasal , and of course i appreciate its not something many want to hear........
Scotland staying or leaving is irrelevant to that decline , perhaps apart from the fact scotland my just speed it up to where its headed anyway.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 5, 2023 17:23:34 GMT
The UK historically wanted Scotland in the Union for manpower, bigger market and having no mainland UK border. Now I think they are resigned to losing Scotland to the detriment of our security and this might Falklands excepted lead to an end to our military adventuring abroad. That is correct. But the main reason it feared an attack from the North by the French. Which I have to admit was a brilliant move on the part of the English. As one had to admire their navy. It was the then most powerful in the world. I am told it work on a simple principle. The counted the amount of ships of the most powerful navy in Europe. Which I think was Spain. Then doubled it. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 17:26:54 GMT
The UK historically wanted Scotland in the Union for manpower, bigger market and having no mainland UK border. Now I think they are resigned to losing Scotland to the detriment of our security and this might Falklands excepted lead to an end to our military adventuring abroad. That is correct. But the main reason it feared an attack from the North by the French. Which I have to admit was a brilliant move on the part of the English. As one had to admire their navy. It was the then most powerful in the world. I am told it work on a simple principle. The counted the amount of ships of the most powerful navy in Europe. Which I think was Spain. Then doubled it. im sure i read a century ago the uk had more ships in their navy than the rest of the worlds navies combined.
Now they have an aircraft carrier that breaks down more than it sails......
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Post by jaydee on Jan 5, 2023 17:48:51 GMT
That is correct. But the main reason it feared an attack from the North by the French. Which I have to admit was a brilliant move on the part of the English. As one had to admire their navy. It was the then most powerful in the world. I am told it work on a simple principle. The counted the amount of ships of the most powerful navy in Europe. Which I think was Spain. Then doubled it. im sure i read a century ago the uk had more ships in their navy than the rest of the worlds navies combined.
Now they have an aircraft carrier that breaks down more than it sails...... Its a disgrace. The UK had to rely on Nato dozens of times over the years to protect the northern approaches as Russian subs slink in and out of the GIUK. Indeed not so long back a Russian Missile Cruiser parked its arse of the Moray Firth for several days totally undetected . It had to tell the MOD by twitter where it was. Despite the fanny it was detected. It was not. This has happened several times. It took the Royal Navy 24 house to respond. FFS that is 150 miles or so from Faslane. The Royal Navy should be stationed in Scapa Flow. Exactly the point being where the threat to the UK is. As it was during the the last two World wars. Not propping up the economy of the south coast of England. There is not one surface warship stationed in Scottish water. www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/royal-navy-needed-24-hours-to-reach-russian-missile-ship-off-uk-coast/ |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 7, 2023 11:43:57 GMT
That is correct. But the main reason it feared an attack from the North by the French. Which I have to admit was a brilliant move on the part of the English. As one had to admire their navy. It was the then most powerful in the world. I am told it work on a simple principle. The counted the amount of ships of the most powerful navy in Europe. Which I think was Spain. Then doubled it. im sure i read a century ago the uk had more ships in their navy than the rest of the worlds navies combined.
Now they have an aircraft carrier that breaks down more than it sails......
What do you mean "they"? We. You are one of us whether you like it or not. And we have two aircraft carriers. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 12:30:13 GMT
im sure i read a century ago the uk had more ships in their navy than the rest of the worlds navies combined.
Now they have an aircraft carrier that breaks down more than it sails......
What do you mean "they"? We. You are one of us whether you like it or not. And we have two aircraft carriers. telling people what to think yet again vinny?
Nationality is a mindset that exists due to your family and upbringing , and you cant tell people what to think and feel no matter how much you might wish to.....
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Post by happyjack on Jan 7, 2023 13:22:50 GMT
I agree that you can’t tell people what to feel but when people believe and say things that are factually wrong then it is perfectly fine for others to correct this.
whether you like it or not, for the time-being at least, you are British so Vinny was perfectly correct when he pointed out that you should have used “we” not “they”. To do as you did displays a mistaken understanding of fact, not opinion.
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 13:24:26 GMT
I agree that you can’t tell people what to feel but when people believe and say things that are factually wrong then it is perfectly fine for others to correct this. use the quote tags and prove where i have been factually wrong instead of claiming it. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 7, 2023 13:24:56 GMT
I should add judging from your posts.......if you can use them of course.....
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