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Post by Orac on Jan 30, 2023 13:18:20 GMT
A clear communication style, a sharp mind and genuine conservative principles.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 30, 2023 13:25:53 GMT
Hmm. I accept the clear communication, that's true. I'm not sure about the sharp mind though. He was clearly out of his depth in cabinet. His Brexit Opportunities Ministerial efforts were lame, for someone who really believed in it.
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Post by Orac on Jan 30, 2023 14:06:17 GMT
So, when you asked the question, were you asking what he might 'offer' (in a general sense), or were you inviting people to convince you that he offered something to you? From my perspective, he does a good job of communicating conservative values and is competent. He would be a loss because he is one of the few conservatives presently involved in government.
I'm not sure at all how I could sell him to someone still struggling in a early 20c century class war against people with particular accents
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 30, 2023 14:20:17 GMT
OK. What other "things" does JRM have to offer? In every interview I have ever seen he has always answered the question that was asked. It's becoming a rare thing these days. |
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Post by Orac on Jan 30, 2023 14:25:03 GMT
He lacks fearless, overwhelming ambition and ruthlessness. However, that may be because he isn't a psychopath - another increasingly rare quality in a politician
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 30, 2023 14:25:57 GMT
So, when you asked the question, were you asking what he might 'offer' (in a general sense), or were you inviting people to convince you that he offered something to you? From my perspective, he does a good job of communicating conservative values and is competent. He would be a loss because he is one of the few conservatives presently involved in government. I'm not sure at all how I could sell him to someone still struggling in a early 20c century class war against people with particular accents If he does indeed get removed from office then I see that as a litmus test. What I expect to happen is he will be replaced by a woman with a lot of makeup and very image conscious but full of shit. It's a test for the proles. Here we have one of the most intelligent politicians in Westminster and if that intelligence is undervalued then the whole country goes down the drain. It's like I feel that would happen if I had a business head on and my money was riding on it, but there is always that thing called hope that one day the proles will get something right. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 30, 2023 15:36:48 GMT
So, when you asked the question, were you asking what he might 'offer' (in a general sense), or were you inviting people to convince you that he offered something to you? From my perspective, he does a good job of communicating conservative values and is competent. He would be a loss because he is one of the few conservatives presently involved in government. I'm not sure at all how I could sell him to someone still struggling in a early 20c century class war against people with particular accents He is no longer involved in the government and its very obvious why (and indeed why he was there in the first place.) |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 30, 2023 15:42:09 GMT
Here we have one of the most intelligent politicians in Westminster and if that intelligence is undervalued then the whole country goes down the drain. I see educated. I'm not sure I have good evidence of intelligence. Feel free to supply something which does though, I'm not saying he isn't, just that I see no evidence of it from what he's done. |
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Post by Orac on Jan 30, 2023 15:53:49 GMT
So, when you asked the question, were you asking what he might 'offer' (in a general sense), or were you inviting people to convince you that he offered something to you? From my perspective, he does a good job of communicating conservative values and is competent. He would be a loss because he is one of the few conservatives presently involved in government. I'm not sure at all how I could sell him to someone still struggling in a early 20c century class war against people with particular accents He is no longer involved in the government and its very obvious why (and indeed why he was there in the first place.) He is 'involved' in government. The waves of tedium are starting again. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 30, 2023 21:37:10 GMT
Here we have one of the most intelligent politicians in Westminster and if that intelligence is undervalued then the whole country goes down the drain. I see educated. I'm not sure I have good evidence of intelligence. Feel free to supply something which does though, I'm not saying he isn't, just that I see no evidence of it from what he's done. He has made millions out of good investments.
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Post by borchester on Jan 31, 2023 2:56:20 GMT
I don't care what accent the PM has ( except Scouse) or which school any Tory PM went to , I just what one that will tell the EU and French to Foxtrot Oscar, get the economy firing on all cylinders, sorts out the NHS, deals with boatpeople, lowers taxes as soon as possible to attract investors, sorts out Law and Order and Public Spending, and keeps the far Left out of power for years and years to come. Can't see anything wrong with that  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 31, 2023 21:09:15 GMT
I see educated. I'm not sure I have good evidence of intelligence. Feel free to supply something which does though, I'm not saying he isn't, just that I see no evidence of it from what he's done. He has made millions out of good investments.
Hmm. That's not really a measure of intelligence. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 31, 2023 22:16:11 GMT
He has made millions out of good investments.
Hmm. That's not really a measure of intelligence. How many millions have you made? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 31, 2023 22:32:21 GMT
I wish! 🙂 I still don't think it's a measure of intelligence though.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 1, 2023 0:48:11 GMT
He has made millions out of good investments.
Hmm. That's not really a measure of intelligence. So what is a measure of intelligence then? |
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