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Post by om15 on Dec 29, 2022 18:59:06 GMT
At the last change of PM Liz Truss had prepared herself for the leadership race but JRM, out of loyalty to Boris, had not put a team together and therefore did not put himself forward.
If he now decides to enter the next race to the top do we think that he might be successful, and if he was would he make a good PM.
I like him very much, astute enough to be a self made millionaire by the age of eleven, he is polite, charming manners and most importantly he is detested by the lefties.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 29, 2022 21:31:17 GMT
He is probably the most capable regarding turning the country's economy around, which has to be the number one thing right now. I've never known him to say anything incorrect regarding economics questions. The bad news is he is the 56th most popular politician. yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians-political-figures/allLook at some of the ones who beat him and you'll see what a sham the voting public are. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 30, 2022 11:07:28 GMT
I agree with both of the above. Yes, JRM would be an excellent and capable PM but he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of actually getting elected.
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Post by bancroft on Dec 30, 2022 14:11:17 GMT
I don't.
He is a maverick as was Boris yet Johnson had charisma JRM does not.
By virtue of his upbringing or personality it makes him appear too elite to most of the electorate.
He might be good with some aspects of politics yet in doing so would draw the ire of the Democratic run USA.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 30, 2022 15:51:29 GMT
I don't. He is a maverick as was Boris yet Johnson had charisma JRM does not. By virtue of his upbringing or personality it makes him appear too elite to most of the electorate. He might be good with some aspects of politics yet in doing so would draw the ire of the Democratic run USA. His upbringing was that he wanted to be a capitalist from an early age and used to read the FT when other kiddies were playing games. I can relate to this in that in a way I was like him as a kid but more into the engineering side of things and used to read an academic engineering journal as a kid. You either have a drive to achieve something or you don't. We really don't want another average person to represent the stupid nation. We want someone who is above their intellect to be a leader and lead. We want someone who cuts the crap and demonstrates leadership by results.
Incidently I was reading some leftwing blog with a few old Oxford students commenting and one said he knew him at Oxford and said he was considered strange by his peers of the time. I'd consider that a compliment, given there were far more bluffers like Johnson there. You'd want to be strange. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 31, 2022 8:05:40 GMT
I like JRM (Or honourable member for the 18th century as some people call him, lol) and think he would probably make a good PM. However I don't think he would ever get the top job because he is seen as posh right wing Tory and these days even the Tory party seem to dislike right wing Tories.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 31, 2022 10:53:47 GMT
So in precis, then: JRM should be PM but never will be because we select PMs according to whether stupid people like them.
There, I think that sums it up.
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Post by borchester on Jan 3, 2023 18:33:39 GMT
So in precis, then: JRM should be PM but never will be because we select PMs according to whether stupid people like them. There, I think that sums it up. No.
I like the Mogg and don't think that his ideas on who should be allowed to bonk who really matter.
But I don't think that he wants the job or has the required viciousness for it.
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Post by Steve on Jan 3, 2023 18:49:48 GMT
At the last change of PM Liz Truss had prepared herself for the leadership race but JRM, out of loyalty to Boris, had not put a team together and therefore did not put himself forward. If he now decides to enter the next race to the top do we think that he might be successful, and if he was would he make a good PM. I like him very much, astute enough to be a self made millionaire by the age of eleven, he is polite, charming manners and most importantly he is detested by the lefties. He's certainly very intelligent and well capable of keeping his head under pressure But as others have said, he's not electable. Far too much of a 'we lead, plebs obey' set of views and a distinct lack of street sense. You can't just govern the UK, it has to at least equally be led by example. This cartoon of a couple of years back, while not true per se, damns him because it captures so much of what he communicates about his values  |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 3, 2023 18:58:20 GMT
I assumed that he would be as keen to make the UK a’ Singapore on Thames’ as Liz Truss was.
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Post by borchester on Jan 3, 2023 19:39:33 GMT
At the last change of PM Liz Truss had prepared herself for the leadership race but JRM, out of loyalty to Boris, had not put a team together and therefore did not put himself forward. If he now decides to enter the next race to the top do we think that he might be successful, and if he was would he make a good PM. I like him very much, astute enough to be a self made millionaire by the age of eleven, he is polite, charming manners and most importantly he is detested by the lefties. He's certainly very intelligent and well capable of keeping his head under pressure But as others have said, he's not electable. Far too much of a 'we lead, plebs obey' set of views and a distinct lack of street sense. You can't just govern the UK, it has to at least equally be led by example. This cartoon of a couple of years back, while not true per se, damns him because it captures so much of what he communicates about his values As far as I can tell we still import oil from Mesopotamia, sell Persia all manner of stuff on the side and the Mogg's top hat probably came from far Cathay.
Private Eye's school boy humour is well enough, but most schoolboys tend to be better informed
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Post by Steve on Jan 3, 2023 23:37:47 GMT
So it flew right over you
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 4, 2023 7:31:57 GMT
I hope not.
I couldn't stand hearing his plummy arrogant voice or his really bad lies all the time.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 4, 2023 9:06:46 GMT
He had his chance in 2019 and did not take it.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 4, 2023 12:44:56 GMT
We don't need another Eton toff running the country.
After Cameron and Boris it is unlikely that another out of touch member of the ''elite'' would get the support necessary to become leader of the party.
Besides, the next Tory leader is likely to be leader of the opposition and not PM.
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