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Post by piglet on Oct 13, 2022 11:34:43 GMT
With the flood of immigrants crossing the channel, it is a source for me of great irritation. With successive home secretaries doing nowt. It makes me wonder if the government are deliberately letting it happen. The reason for this is that populations are shrinking badly.
When my generation goes, thats mid sixties, things wont look good. The Russian army cant replenish its ranks, and Putin has kidnapped Ukrainian children bevause Russia cant replenish itself. I havent checked, but i suspect our poulation isnt replenishing either.
There are lots of people, but we are not reproducing. Like with work, there are lots of people, but many are unemployable and financially dependant. Braverman should get the navy to pick up these people and take them to island camps off Scotland, with flights back home asap, or rwanda, or timbuctoo. No lawyers involved.
If its breaking international law, then so be it, everyone does, esprcially the French, they do as they please. Breaking laws was what the EU is all about, and making laws in favour of everyone but us.
Everyone ignores international law, except the British. If the government was serious about the channel, they could have stopped in years ago. By the way, its hes not heavy, ive changed my name.
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Post by Orac on Oct 13, 2022 11:55:04 GMT
With the flood of immigrants crossing the channel, it is a source for me of great irritation. With successive home secretaries doing nowt. It makes me wonder if the government are deliberately letting it happen. The reason for this is that populations are shrinking badly. Interestingly, the only significant groups that have an interest in over-crowding are the banks and the government, The fact that the UK public has voted repeatedly to stop this policy and yet nothing at all has happened, gives an indication of just how shallow our democracy really is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 12:29:01 GMT
The Conservatives will never do anything about immigration because it focuses a lot of people's attention away from what they are doing elsewhere.
Running down and privatising the NHS.
Curbing people's right to protest.
Cutting social care.
Curbing people's right to strike.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2022 12:33:28 GMT
But why on Earth would they want to distract attention from all that good stuff?
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 13, 2022 12:40:45 GMT
"The Conservatives will never do anything about immigration because it focuses a lot of people's attention away from what they are doing elsewhere."
Will Labour promise to do something about it if we agree to vote for them next time?
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Post by Bentley on Oct 13, 2022 12:45:36 GMT
"The Conservatives will never do anything about immigration because it focuses a lot of people's attention away from what they are doing elsewhere." Will Labour promise to do something about it if we agree to vote for them next time? ‘A fairer system’ . ‘Work with France to find a solution ‘. Anything but that .
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Post by Orac on Oct 13, 2022 12:47:38 GMT
But why on Earth would they want to distract attention from all that good stuff? Perceptive question
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 15:31:55 GMT
"The Conservatives will never do anything about immigration because it focuses a lot of people's attention away from what they are doing elsewhere." Will Labour promise to do something about it if we agree to vote for them next time? Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 15:32:51 GMT
"The Conservatives will never do anything about immigration because it focuses a lot of people's attention away from what they are doing elsewhere." Will Labour promise to do something about it if we agree to vote for them next time? ‘A fairer system’ . ‘Work with France to find a solution ‘. Anything but that . Working with France is the only way we can deal with the 'problem'.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 13, 2022 15:46:48 GMT
‘A fairer system’ . ‘Work with France to find a solution ‘. Anything but that . Working with France is the only way we can deal with the 'problem'. I never said it wasnt . I pointed out how ‘ promises ‘ can sometimes not be what they seem to be . You do realise that the phrase ‘ work with France to find a solution ‘ doesn’t actually say how we would work with France , what the problem is to be solved and even what the solution might be , don’t you?
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Post by Handyman on Oct 13, 2022 17:56:06 GMT
France and Brussels have had a long time to work with us why has that not happened, all that has achieved is France asking for millions of pounds which has done very little in fact the total opposite, more and more alleged Asylum Seekers by the week over 30,000 of them
To every problem there is a solution, if you are not part of the solution, you could be the problem, which IMO France and Brussels are
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Post by sword on Oct 13, 2022 18:22:29 GMT
With the flood of immigrants crossing the channel, it is a source for me of great irritation. With successive home secretaries doing nowt. It makes me wonder if the government are deliberately letting it happen. The reason for this is that populations are shrinking badly. When my generation goes, thats mid sixties, things wont look good. The Russian army cant replenish its ranks, and Putin has kidnapped Ukrainian children bevause Russia cant replenish itself. I havent checked, but i suspect our poulation isnt replenishing either. There are lots of people, but we are not reproducing. Like with work, there are lots of people, but many are unemployable and financially dependant. Braverman should get the navy to pick up these people and take them to island camps off Scotland, with flights back home asap, or rwanda, or timbuctoo. No lawyers involved. If its breaking international law, then so be it, everyone does, esprcially the French, they do as they please. Breaking laws was what the EU is all about, and making laws in favour of everyone but us. Everyone ignores international law, except the British. If the government was serious about the channel, they could have stopped in years ago. By the way, its hes not heavy, ive changed my name. Kinapped Ukrainian Children? now why would he do that? don't tell me because he is just evil LOL!
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Post by sword on Oct 13, 2022 18:24:23 GMT
But why on Earth would they want to distract attention from all that good stuff? Good stuff,are you bonkers?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 13, 2022 20:30:19 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 14, 2022 7:36:07 GMT
Yes, I'm also curious what Labour's plans are for 'working with France' that hasn't already been tried and abandoned.
We all recall the hoohah that attended the closure of Sangatte which was supposed to solve the 'problem' when Labour was last running the show. What many people don't know is Labour's solution entailed transporting the great majority of Sangatte's 'residents' to the UK and giving them four-year work permits with benefits.
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