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Post by Pacifico on Jan 5, 2023 7:35:41 GMT
I want to know if Brexit has been such a success, where is the 350M per week promised to the NHS? I think that is included in the extra 500m a week they are getting..  |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 5, 2023 10:41:54 GMT
It got spent in the extra paperwork, travel and wages per hour for endless negotiations still going on 6 years after the promise made, loss of tax revenue as SME'S go out of business and loss of employees due to the labour shortage in various sectors of the economy and loss of growth which damages internal and external investment.
Which takes us back to "go"..
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Post by bancroft on Jan 5, 2023 11:57:27 GMT
I want to know if Brexit has been such a success, where is the 350M per week promised to the NHS? Farage never agreed with that figure and also doubted the majority would ever go to the NHS yet also said he was not the government. We had the likes of legal challenges from people with vested interests like Gina Miller, street protests from BLM and then anti-lockdown protests. The increased costs of universal credit after destroying large swathes of leisure and retail jobs with lockdowns. Now with Ukraie it is being spent on fuel subsidies. In the meantime we have BRINO despite all the noise. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 5, 2023 12:07:38 GMT
The saving from the EU costs was around £9b net, fuel subsidies are about £6bn cost of putting up illegals in hotels £3bn.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 5, 2023 22:23:23 GMT
I want to know if Brexit has been such a success, where is the 350M per week promised to the NHS? I don't remember seeing that as a promise. |
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Post by Steve on Jan 5, 2023 23:25:03 GMT
I want to know if Brexit has been such a success, where is the 350M per week promised to the NHS? Farage never agreed with that figure . . . FFS he was the original author of it just he made it higher |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 6, 2023 0:16:15 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 6, 2023 0:20:24 GMT
I see a suggestion or an idea. I don't see a promise. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 6, 2023 8:04:19 GMT
I see a suggestion or an idea. I don't see a promise. It was a suggestion by a group that has no power to implement spending decisions one way or the other..  Bit like the LibDems promising to save the NHS by putting a penny on income tax.. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 6, 2023 11:11:31 GMT
Farage never agreed with that figure . . . FFS he was the original author of it just he made it higher Yet that clip suggests £55m was not just the rebate he is adding in projected costs of EU red tape harming business, would like to see his original claim too rather than just a Twitter clip and if i read that correctly it was from Feb 2016. So plenty of time for that to be debated. What I do recall was later in the year when Farage had been refused a seat on the Leave campaign Andrew Neil's politics program asked him about Bojo's bus claim and he said was too high as Boris was claiming the gross figure and not the net. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 6, 2023 11:39:19 GMT
If you look at debt here, you can see it was falling after Brexit until COV-ID became a problem in 2019. I'm not claiming this as the perfect data just showing there is more to this and COV-ID has destroyed any Brexit benefit currently as the economy has been damaged badly by lock-downs and will take several years to recover. My guess is 5 years. <img src="https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-kingdom-government-debt-to-gdp.png?s=gbrdebt2gdp&projection=te&v=202211171247V20220312" alt="United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt to GDP"/> |
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Post by Steve on Jan 7, 2023 10:27:39 GMT
If you look at debt here, you can see it was falling after Brexit until COV-ID became a problem in 2019. I'm not claiming this as the perfect data just showing there is more to this and COV-ID has destroyed any Brexit benefit currently as the economy has been damaged badly by lock-downs and will take several years to recover. My guess is 5 years. <img src="https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-kingdom-government-debt-to-gdp.png?s=gbrdebt2gdp&projection=te&v=202211171247V20220312" alt="United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt to GDP"/> It's his own words from his own twitter feed and he made it clearer that it was supposed direct handover here (and it was still a lie) |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 7, 2023 11:36:05 GMT
I don't see how the red tape hampering business efficiencies he mentions can be taken as hard savings. We would need to see his breakdown to see how he arrives at this figure.
Farage was not allowed in the Leave campaign it was Bojo's vehicle and they went for the weekly figure of £350m.
Farage got it wrong for me with how the EU would treat us.
I see we still have thousands of EU laws to be reviewed and repealed these might give us savings, I have not seen what they involve.
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Post by borchester on Jan 7, 2023 11:46:49 GMT
This is based on research by the Centre for European Reform (a pro-EU group), using the 'Doppelganger' methodology. itv.com/news/2022-12-20/brexit-costs-government-40-billion-a-year-in-lost-tax-revenue Good.
Anyone who likes paying taxes can pay my share. Personally, I reckon the best place for my money is in my pocket
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Post by Steve on Jan 7, 2023 11:47:47 GMT
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