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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 21:53:41 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 25, 2023 22:46:01 GMT
Sorry mate, but if you think that is evidence you need to get out more. I'll give you an example closer to home. There was a rape on a ward in an NHS hospital - the NHS denied that a rape had happened as there were no men on the ward. What the NHS failed to mention was that a transgender woman who biologically a man was on the ward, and had attacked another patient. When Government Departments claim they have had no issues with 'male' predators then you really need to treat their suggestion with a great deal of suspicion.
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Post by thomas on Jan 26, 2023 7:27:01 GMT
wriggle out of what? I have re clarified my point for you . Its not diffuclt to understand
I see you are back though not using the quote tags so i dont get notified of your response in your typical cowardly manner.
You lie , you make claims about your lies that no one else is claiming , and then run away when wriggling on hooks of your own making , by throwing posts into threads in the hope you can get the last word in without the people you have lied about seeing them.
Waste of space.
“Re-clarified my point”. Well, if that isn’t a euphemism for “changed my words to suit my story” then I don’t know what is. At least you are admitting it now, I guess, even if you don’t realise that you are doing so. more empty words to feebly attmept to cover your lies.
If you believe i have changed my words , then please quote me where i have changed. Once again , if you cant back up your lies , then we can dismiss what you say as ever .
I havent once claimed the scottish parliament controls uk passports.
When one of your lies goes wrong , and is found out , best to stop the digging.
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Post by thomas on Jan 26, 2023 7:34:23 GMT
Joanne Cherry (SNP) has been interviewed in the Scotsman, despite the claims that this Perverts Charter has overwhelming support and completely justifies Home Rule, she does in fact speak for the appalled majority, no doubt someone will now come along and slag her off, but it is a relief to see that even at top levels in the SNP there is some common sense and moral responsibility. om you are making things up again.
First of all , scotland doesnt have home rule. Home rule was an old term that originally meant an independent fully self governing scotland in the old empire. Devolution doesnt even come close to that.
Secondly , this individual cannot reoffend while in a womans prison. He has been sent to hmp cornton vale , known in glaswegian criminal idiom as "fanny hill" , and is being kept in isolation away from female prisoners.
With prominent english tories coming out in support of scotlands grr bill like may , moradaunt fabricant and caroline noakes to name a few , who recently said this is the exact same legisaltion that england will be introducing , with the exception that scotland and englands age of majority is quite obviously and always has been different , i suspect rather than tarring the snp government as you hope, this is blowing up in you british nationalists faces.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 26, 2023 7:48:31 GMT
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Post by happyjack on Jan 26, 2023 7:50:04 GMT
“Re-clarified my point”. Well, if that isn’t a euphemism for “changed my words to suit my story” then I don’t know what is. At least you are admitting it now, I guess, even if you don’t realise that you are doing so. more empty words to feebly attmept to cover your lies.
If you believe i have changed my words , then please quote me where i have changed. Once again , if you cant back up your lies , then we can dismiss what you say as ever .
I havent once claimed the scottish parliament controls uk passports.
When one of your lies goes wrong , and is found out , best to stop the digging.
As I think I have said somewhere before, I am not going to engage in any such behaviour with or for you. All that does is give an impression that there might be some credibility to your wriggling and squirming, when there is none whatsoever. However, your last paragraph above is sound advice - so you should take it. NO DIGNITY...NO HUMILITY...NO INTEGRITY..........NO WRIGGLEROOM!
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Post by research0it on Jan 26, 2023 8:30:03 GMT
Sorry mate, but if you think that is evidence you need to get out more. I'll give you an example closer to home. There was a rape on a ward in an NHS hospital - the NHS denied that a rape had happened as there were no men on the ward. What the NHS failed to mention was that a transgender woman who biologically a man was on the ward, and had attacked another patient. When Government Departments claim they have had no issues with 'male' predators then you really need to treat their suggestion with a great deal of suspicion. Hi pacifico I notice that my evidence is based on big statistics and trends over large numbers and long periods of time The evidence from the other side is individual examples. Which prove nothing. Because no one denies that predatory males exist and that they get up to things. What you have to research is how typical it is in relation to the issue. Those opinions that I published and quoted are actually 2 different sources, saying the same thing. Both quoting from multiple agencies, heavily involved with this issue. Saying the same thing
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 26, 2023 8:34:08 GMT
Hi pacifico I notice that my evidence is based on big statistics and trends over large numbers and long periods of time The evidence from the other side is individual examples. Which prove nothing. Because no one denies that predatory males exist and that they get up to things. What you have to research is how typical it is in relation to the issue. I'm pointing out that government departments are quite willing to lie about the size of the problem. If you are going to base your argument on statistics produced by organisations who are actively promoting these policies then I would suggest you be a tad more skeptical. With regards to Scotland specifically - the SPS does not hold information on whether any incidents have occurred of transgender prisoners who have transferred to woman's prison facilities going on to commit violence against female inmates, which is considered ‘a matter for the Procurator Fiscal’. If you are not recording any instances of attacks or harassment then for sure the statistics are not going to show any attacks or harassment.
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Post by om15 on Jan 26, 2023 8:42:06 GMT
Out of interest I have looked at the details of this in the Scottish papers, the Daily Record is not renowned for it's right wing bias, so looking at the comments (over 150 or so) published I was mildly surprised to see the condemnation of Sturgeon and MSPs, virtually every commentator was scathing and many expressed support for Westminster, so don't pull our legs with your wishful thinking, here is the evidence. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-scot-found-guilty-raping-29037424#comments-wrapper
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Post by research0it on Jan 26, 2023 10:47:22 GMT
Hi pacifico I notice that my evidence is based on big statistics and trends over large numbers and long periods of time The evidence from the other side is individual examples. Which prove nothing. Because no one denies that predatory males exist and that they get up to things. What you have to research is how typical it is in relation to the issue. I'm pointing out that government departments are quite willing to lie about the size of the problem. If you are going to base your argument on statistics produced by organisations who are actively promoting these policies then I would suggest you be a tad more skeptical. With regards to Scotland specifically - the SPS does not hold information on whether any incidents have occurred of transgender prisoners who have transferred to woman's prison facilities going on to commit violence against female inmates, which is considered ‘a matter for the Procurator Fiscal’. If you are not recording any instances of attacks or harassment then for sure the statistics are not going to show any attacks or harassment. Hi pacifico How do you know that they're linked to pro transgender movements? One is Time magazine. I also cross referenced to other sources in other countries and the evidence all pointed one way. But if you're sceptical then prove me wrong give me links to big numbers studies, from countries that has passed this legislation, showing an increase in predatory activities, following the legislation. I'm fairly certain you won't find it. Because I've tried and failed to find it. Sometimes what you can't find tells you as much as what you do. I've been all over the feminist sides that tried to block the legislation, and their evidence is individual examples. Nothing else. Even examples that have dubious connectivity with this issue. For example linking peadophiles with transgender issues. Which just throws bogeymen in. I can give you links galore if you want. Despite all I have written, I'm going to concede something. All my evidence will not stop many women FEELING less safe, if this legislation eventually gets through. That feeling may not be based on much, but it will still be there. How much weight you put on that, I don't know. Finally, on rereading one of my links, something struck me. Some states in the USA have this type of legislation and some don't, and they appear to handle it. Makes one think about the UK government objections?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2023 12:17:17 GMT
Totally biased article. Do you believe men can become women by choice?
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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2023 12:49:45 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Jan 26, 2023 13:12:59 GMT
Of which the resident trans champion(s) should be objecting to? Surely the Scottish authorities are denying ‘her’ human rights ?
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Post by research0it on Jan 26, 2023 13:31:31 GMT
Hi vinny Yet another individual example. That doesn't prove anything
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Post by research0it on Jan 26, 2023 13:34:52 GMT
Totally biased article. Do you believe men can become women by choice? Hi blackiswhite I could give you links galore from other sources and countries. The data all points the same way. So they're all biased? Anyway I give you the same challenge as pacifico. Prove me wrong. Find big picture data from those countries I mentioned that show evidence that backs your case. Not individual examples. I've tried to find it and failed.
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