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Post by thomas on Jan 20, 2023 8:40:10 GMT
LOL. Is England now going to refuse to accept scottish same sex marriage certificates ? Will viceroy jack order another section 35?
Church of England bishops refuse to back gay marriage
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Post by research0it on Jan 20, 2023 9:32:24 GMT
Hi Bentley No, you're factually wrong. People born men have been able to access female only areas in the UK since the 2004 act. All legally. I have a solution. (Now I am being disingenuous). On birth all females are given a lifetime "I'm female certificate" In future access to female only places will be by I'm female certificate or by GRC. Happy? Then they shouldn’t . They shouldn’t be allowed in any areas that are considered safe spaces for women . Hi Bentley OK that's your view. But shouldn't is different from can't. Trans people have had the right to enter female only areas for nearly 20 years
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 9:33:57 GMT
Certainly, it is manifestly obvious that it is a direct threat to the safety of women by denying them safe private space. The fact that a rapist can, without any reference to medical expertease, on conviction declare himself a women in order to be put in a women's prison is so breathtakingly wrong that it is impossible to see how a balanced and sane person can support it. If the Scots wish to live in a land fit for perverts that is their business. Rishy Sunak is to be applauded in his steps to prevent this vile nonsense infecting England. Sturgeon is only driving this rubbish because she herself would like to self certify as a bloke. So it is a direct threat to women. He says. FFS. So are Met police officers. Big time. And you are now ranting that in England as the law now stands it will stop men from dressing up as woman and attacking woman. That is what you have just ranted. Could I suggest the word pish comes to mind. As it does in all your rants. So perhaps you can tell me how the law as it stands in England stop sexuals offences by men dressing up as woman. . It is the worst in the UK. . Now as this is law in some 30 countries. I take it Sunak will stop GRR affected people from entering the country. Now sme 50% of your own countrymen to 27% agree the the law in England needs changing to that of Scotland. As have all Unionist leader, and indeed even a former PM has stated Jack should get back in his box. The reason being those people can actually think. The law as in Scotland has nothing to do with sexual offences. It already has laws dealing with that. Even England has laws to deal with that. But that is beyond your brain. It is about equality of a different group. Duh. That is even more beyond you,and Jack in the box. Who is now playing with fire. So let me ask you again and red herrings in your normal stupid answers, is not a answer. What exactly is your problem with the law in Scotland on GRR which has SFA to do with you. And the last sentence of your post as I keep, saying brings and never fails, you to a new level of the meaning of the word imbecile. www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/20070605.accrington-man-dressed-woman-battered-date-attack/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/man-pulled-woman-nightclub-toilet-25912782
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 9:47:41 GMT
I tend to listen to women and their concerns about the trans issue and it seems a lot of people here feel the same . Maybe those countries don’t . Maybe men defining themselves as women and getting a free pass to women’s spaces is a sign that the patriarchy does exist. What a load of pish. You did not even know what GGR was till it came up and you joined in with the red herring brigade. I have already told you some 50% to 27% of your own countrymen believe in the GRR bill,as do some 30 countries all over the world. And even in bankrupt England has laws to deal with with sexual offenders. Not to mention From Sanwar and I bet you do not have a clue whoa he is, like you had not even heard of Jack. Have united Unionist with the Scottish Government. Even a former Labour FM of Scotland and as former Tory PM have told Jack to get back in is box. He is playing the red meat to the idiots who cannot think for themselves. .By the way it is more than clear that Jack in the Box does not like you even understand it himself. He made that clear as he made a total arse of himself both in Westminster and on Scottish TV. And as you spectacularly prove throw the red meat and it works and you swallow utter fanny hook line and sinker. On a matter you did not even know existed. And you still have not told me. That someone who does not give a fuck about the Scots. That is what you spewed. Why are you suddenly giving a fuck. And you still have not told me what your problem with the bill is. You homophobic as well.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 9:53:47 GMT
LOL. Is England now going to refuse to accept scottish same sex marriage certificates ? Will viceroy jack order another section 35?
Church of England bishops refuse to back gay marriage
I get my kill at the word Church of England as if it was some holier than thou shrine. Defender of the faith and all that crap. It was invented by Enry the 8ft. So he could shag someone elses wife. Even in the modern day Royal Family . They still think it is their right. I have no idea of what faith they defend. Or what it has to do with a monarch. Mind you it beats bonking little boys bums. www.historyhit.com/henry-viii-becomes-head-church-england/
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Post by Bentley on Jan 20, 2023 9:55:42 GMT
I tend to listen to women and their concerns about the trans issue and it seems a lot of people here feel the same . Maybe those countries don’t . Maybe men defining themselves as women and getting a free pass to women’s spaces is a sign that the patriarchy does exist. What a load of pish. You did not even know what GGR was till it came up and you joined in with the red herring brigade. I have already told you some 50% to 27% of your own countrymen believe in the GRR bill,as do some 30 countries all over the world. And even in bankrupt England has laws to deal with with sexual offenders. Not to mention From Sanwar and I bet you do not have a clue whoa he is, like you had not even heard of Jack. Have united Unionist with the Scottish Government. Even a former Labour FM of Scotland and as former Tory PM have told Jack to get back in is box. He is playing the red meat to the idiots who cannot think for themselves. .By the way it is more than clear that Jack in the Box does not like you even understand it himself. He made that clear as he made a total arse of himself both in Westminster and on Scottish TV. And as you spectacularly prove throw the red meat and it works and you swallow utter fanny hook line and sinker. On a matter you did not even know existed. And you still have not told me. That someone who does not give a fuck about the Scots. That is what you spewed. Why are you suddenly giving a fuck. And you still have not told me what your problem with the bill is. You homophobic as well. What the fuck are you on about?😆
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 10:06:07 GMT
What a load of pish. You did not even know what GGR was till it came up and you joined in with the red herring brigade. I have already told you some 50% to 27% of your own countrymen believe in the GRR bill,as do some 30 countries all over the world. And even in bankrupt England has laws to deal with with sexual offenders. Not to mention From Sanwar and I bet you do not have a clue whoa he is, like you had not even heard of Jack. Have united Unionist with the Scottish Government. Even a former Labour FM of Scotland and as former Tory PM have told Jack to get back in is box. He is playing the red meat to the idiots who cannot think for themselves. .By the way it is more than clear that Jack in the Box does not like you even understand it himself. He made that clear as he made a total arse of himself both in Westminster and on Scottish TV. And as you spectacularly prove throw the red meat and it works and you swallow utter fanny hook line and sinker. On a matter you did not even know existed. And you still have not told me. That someone who does not give a fuck about the Scots. That is what you spewed. Why are you suddenly giving a fuck. And you still have not told me what your problem with the bill is. You homophobic as well. What the fuck are y ou on about?😆 You and the drivel you rant. Which part of the above do you no understand. Again. On a scale of 1 to 10. As you go of on another circular rant. So let's get the ducks in order. You are the one who said the English do not give a fuck about the Scots. Which part of that, which you posted do you not understand. Then as a spokesman for the English. Which part of what I asked you. If you do not give a fuck. What are you doing on here. What part of what are you doing on here is creating you a problem. As silly Englishmen go. I have never in nearly seven decades had to explain to them what they posted. As you spectacularly fail to answer your problem with the GRR bill. You do not have a clue do you. I take it English is your first language. I am beginning to wonder.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 20, 2023 10:08:01 GMT
Only when it suits her and her agenda. Otherwise she is a democracy denier, as exemplified by her complete refusal to honour the democratically expressed will of the Scottish people in the 2014 referendum. it is easy to be a democrat when you win. The real test of democratic credentials is how you uphold the democratic principle in defeat - and her record is 100% failure in that department. Hi happyjack That is a point, but if you don't mind me saying so - and no one ever seems to agree with me on this - that's an analysis based on both sides regarding the tying in of independence with a referendum. One side is obsessed with getting it, the other with stopping it. Both sides should be trying to win hearts and minds and stop making their only tactic to stop or get a referendum. She would certainly accept, for example, the right to have a referendum every 10 years or so, but that doesn't make her anti democratic, it's just her distorted view because she thinks that referendums are some sort of key. I'm tolerably certain, however, that if she won such a right she would accept the losing result every time and plan for the next one. And taking my own example , I voted no in 2014, and it was a close run thing. The deciding issue for me was that I didn't want to take the risk of leaving the EU. Now look what happened. My passport is up for renewal next year and I'll be sick to the stomach when I lose the pink one and get a navy blue one. It's only symbolic but it reflects a deep loss for me. There is a kind of a thing in me that says that it would be democratic for the powers that be to have a formal way of asking me which union I prefer. That is being denied to me and that's not democratic even though right now, I'm not sure what answer I would give. Hi research0it, No, my analysis is not based upon tying in of independence with a referendum. I am simply saying that on the one occasion where Sturgeon clearly lost a plebiscite in Scotland, or lost the Scottish element of a UK or EU plebiscite, either as leader or deputy leader of the SNP (and that goes back almost 20 years now) she has not honoured the result. That just happened to be in the Indy referendum of 2014, by far the most important of all those plebiscites and therefore the one which, for societal healing and national well-being, most demanded that the losing side accepted and honoured the result. As I said, it is easy to accept democratic outcomes when you are on the winning side, but it is how we react when we lose that demonstrates our democratic credentials. She showed no respect for the democratic outcome on that occasion so, based upon the evidence rather than the rhetoric, it is fair to say that she is only a democrat when she wins.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 20, 2023 10:14:23 GMT
What a load of pish. You did not even know what GGR was till it came up and you joined in with the red herring brigade. I have already told you some 50% to 27% of your own countrymen believe in the GRR bill,as do some 30 countries all over the world. And even in bankrupt England has laws to deal with with sexual offenders. Not to mention From Sanwar and I bet you do not have a clue whoa he is, like you had not even heard of Jack. Have united Unionist with the Scottish Government. Even a former Labour FM of Scotland and as former Tory PM have told Jack to get back in is box. He is playing the red meat to the idiots who cannot think for themselves. .By the way it is more than clear that Jack in the Box does not like you even understand it himself. He made that clear as he made a total arse of himself both in Westminster and on Scottish TV. And as you spectacularly prove throw the red meat and it works and you swallow utter fanny hook line and sinker. On a matter you did not even know existed. And you still have not told me. That someone who does not give a fuck about the Scots. That is what you spewed. Why are you suddenly giving a fuck. And you still have not told me what your problem with the bill is. You homophobic as well. What the fuck are you on about?😆 I know that baffled feeling all too well, Bentley. Sooner or later you will realise that it is simply a waste of time and energy trying to interact with Jaydee.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 10:16:43 GMT
There is a kind of a thing in me that says that it would be democratic for the powers that be to have a formal way of asking me which union I prefer. That is being denied to me and that's not democratic even though right now, I'm not sure what answer I would give. Hi research0it, No, my analysis is not based upon tying in of independence with a referendum. I am simply saying that on the one occasion where Sturgeon clearly lost a plebiscite in Scotland, or lost the Scottish element of a UK or EU plebiscite, either as leader or deputy leader of the SNP (and that goes back almost 20 years now) she has not honoured the result. That just happened to be in the Indy referendum of 2014. As I said, it is easy to accept democratic outcomes when you are on the winning side, but it is how we react when we lose that demonstrates our democratic credentials. She showed no respect for the democratic outcome on that occasion so, based upon the evidence rather than the rhetoric, it is fair to say that she is only a democrat when she wins. Oh dear he is now replacing the phrase risk assessment with the word analysis. So could you explain in this analysis of yours. How the FM showed no respect for the democratic outcome on that occasion what evidence is it based on. And on what evidence rather than the rhetoric. Is it fair to say that she is only a democrat when she wins. That is what you said. Unlike Sunak she was elected as FM. I take it like risk assessment you do not even understand yourself what you have just posted. As do all statement makers. I await with bated breath more waffle and no answer.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 10:19:40 GMT
What the fuck are you on about?😆 I know that baffled feeling all too well, Bentley. Sooner or later you will realise that it is simply a waste of time and energy trying to interact with Jaydee. Aye As you agree with him that he does not give a fuck about the Scots. It is becoming very clear Neither do you. What a pair of pathetic posters looking for brownie points from each other as both do not have one clue what they rant about. So let me repeat.. Oh dear he is now replacing the phrase risk assessment with the word analysis. So could you explain in this analysis of yours. How the FM showed no respect for the democratic outcome on that occasion what evidence is it based on. And on what evidence rather than the rhetoric. Is it fair to say that she is only a democrat when she wins. That is what you said. Unlike Sunak she was elected as FM. I take it like risk assessment you do not even understand yourself what you have just posted. As do all statement makers. I await with bated breath more waffle and no answer.The waffle has arrived. Could you now answer the questions on what you posted.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 20, 2023 10:20:26 GMT
What the fuck are y ou on about?😆 You and the drivel you rant. Which part of the above do you no understand. Again. On a scale of 1 to 10. As you go of on another circular rant. So let's get the ducks in order. You are the one who said the English do not give a fuck about the Scots. Which part of that, which you posted do you not understand. Then as a spokesman for the English. Which part of what I asked you. If you do not give a fuck. What are you doing on here. What part of what are you doing on here is creating you a problem. As silly Englishmen go. I have never in nearly seven decades had to explain to them what they posted. As you spectacularly fail to answer your problem with the GRR bill. You do not have a clue do you. I take it English is your first language. I am beginning to wonder. You really are into lying aren’t you ? What I asked was roughly ‘ how will you feel when you find out that the English don’t care a fuck when Scotland leaves the union ‘ the question was in the context that idiots like you don’t just want to leave the union but want the English to want Scotland to stay. As I said before , the rest of the UK will jog along quite happily if and when the Scot’s gain independence. You obviously fucking thick to understand a simple concept . What I didn’t say was that the English dont give a fuck about the Scots ..you idiot.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 20, 2023 10:22:07 GMT
What the fuck are you on about?😆 I know that baffled feeling all too well, Bentley. Sooner or later you will realise that it is simply a waste of time and energy trying to interact with Jaydee. Yup. He’s a great advert for English independence . Fortunately not all Scots are idiots like him .
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 10:34:59 GMT
You and the drivel you rant. Which part of the above do you no understand. Again. On a scale of 1 to 10. As you go of on another circular rant. So let's get the ducks in order. You are the one who said the English do not give a fuck about the Scots. Which part of that, which you posted do you not understand. Then as a spokesman for the English. Which part of what I asked you. If you do not give a fuck. What are you doing on here. What part of what are you doing on here is creating you a problem. As silly Englishmen go. I have never in nearly seven decades had to explain to them what they posted. As you spectacularly fail to answer your problem with the GRR bill. You do not have a clue do you. I take it English is your first language. I am beginning to wonder. You really are into lying aren’t you ? What I asked was roughly ‘ how will you feel when you find out that the English don’t care a fuck when Scotland leaves the union ‘ the question was in the context that idiots like you don’t just want to leave the union but want the English to want Scotland to stay. As I said before , the rest of the UK will jog along quite happily if and when the Scot’s gain independence. You obviously fucking thick to understand a simple concept . What I didn’t say was that the English dont give a fuck about the Scots ..you idiot. On a scale of one to ten. Why are you going of on a tangents. AGAIN. On a scale of one to ten. I do not give a fuck what you think. Or any silly little Englander. Which you clearly are. You pick the number As you appointed yourself the spokesman for the English. I pointed out on your lying shit some 270 Westminster wankers, all but six Englishmen did give a fuck. As does Sunak. That's your theory shot down in flames. And the reason they do give a fuck. and know it. Is the second Scotland goes its merry way. Inter alia, bankrupt England will have to borrow a further £100 billion a year. More than it does now. Just to stand stand still. That's why they give a fuck. Now lets assume in your lying shit. That all Englishmen do want the Scots to leave the Union. I am 100% with them. Now speaking of idiots. As you do not give a fuck about the Scots. What are you doing on here. . How many times do you need asking. And no matey you did not say anything. You simply rant. And you still have not told me what your problem with the GRR bill is. You do not have a clue do you
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Post by jaydee on Jan 20, 2023 10:35:54 GMT
I know that baffled feeling all too well, Bentley. Sooner or later you will realise that it is simply a waste of time and energy trying to interact with Jaydee. Yup. He’s a great advert for English independence . Fortunately not all Scots are idiots like him . Ah the brownie point wonders. Not one answer in weeks between them. As they say in Glasgow all mooth and nae troosers.
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