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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 16, 2022 8:28:01 GMT
Labour and their cultists will be (indeed already are) trying to make us believe their fortunes have turned following their by election ‘victory’ www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-63971038Fact is the Labour sitting candidate won with an increased majority But only one in four people voted, with postal voting suffering from the postal strikes. The other 75% of the electorate couldn’t be arsed to get out and make their view known. I’m sure Starmer will be delighted, but if the politicians are put in place by such piss poor showings, what does this really say ? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 16, 2022 11:46:31 GMT
Labour and their cultists will be (indeed already are) trying to make us believe their fortunes have turned following their by election ‘victory’ www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-63971038Fact is the Labour sitting candidate won with an increased majority But only one in four people voted, with postal voting suffering from the postal strikes. The other 75% of the electorate couldn’t be arsed to get out and make their view known. I’m sure Starmer will be delighted, but if the politicians are put in place by such piss poor showings, what does this really say ? I've always said if you don't like any of the offerings then sit it out. It really is the thing these cretins fear the most. They have an attention-seeking mentality where if it does not get fulfilled their ego crashes and burns and it turns them mad. Let me guess. Some evil man was their MP and now the proles think it will be all great if they have a woman rep. It is usually the way. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 16, 2022 14:48:14 GMT
Well Baron, that’s your choice although if you don’t want to have a say then my view is you’re not entitled to whinge about what you get.
The thing that concerns me is the degree of lack of engagement.
I mean it’s all very well not a single voter in the bettws ward voting for the police and crime commissioner as happenned a few years back. we know that’s where all the crackheads and criminals live it makes sense they don’t want to vote for a police and crime commissioner.
But I do think less than a quarter of the voters turning out to vote is a cause for concern.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 16, 2022 21:01:43 GMT
Well Baron, that’s your choice although if you don’t want to have a say then my view is you’re not entitled to whinge about what you get. The thing that concerns me is the degree of lack of engagement. I mean it’s all very well not a single voter in the bettws ward voting for the police and crime commissioner as happenned a few years back. we know that’s where all the crackheads and criminals live it makes sense they don’t want to vote for a police and crime commissioner. But I do think less than a quarter of the voters turning out to vote is a cause for concern. I can't have a proper say because all I'm presented with is cretins. I do not back cretins - that's my say.
The thing is most know it is a fake democracy, and even if it were not, it would not fix it and probably make it worse. The whole country has lost it. We can not fix ourselves. We might wish or even demand things, but because of the mad nature of people, the act of doing something is invariably destructive.
Also why hold me to ransom and force me to vote for these undesirables/criminals/compulsive liars under threat of saying I aught to be gagged though if I do not? I just try and produce solutions and chuck them out there so perhaps someone might think, great, that makes sense, we'll do that. The thing is now my solutions get tossed out there and are seen by random people all over the place, not just here. I find it is the foreigners who take an interest. The Brits are utterly negative on any solution mode of thought. Ideas are attacked, moans and groans are liked.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 17, 2022 12:44:11 GMT
Well Baron, that’s your choice although if you don’t want to have a say then my view is you’re not entitled to whinge about what you get. The thing that concerns me is the degree of lack of engagement. I mean it’s all very well not a single voter in the bettws ward voting for the police and crime commissioner as happenned a few years back. we know that’s where all the crackheads and criminals live it makes sense they don’t want to vote for a police and crime commissioner. But I do think less than a quarter of the voters turning out to vote is a cause for concern. I can't have a proper say because all I'm presented with is cretins. I do not back cretins - that's my say.
The thing is most know it is a fake democracy, and even if it were not, it would not fix it and probably make it worse. The whole country has lost it. We can not fix ourselves. We might wish or even demand things, but because of the mad nature of people, the act of doing something is invariably destructive.
Also why hold me to ransom and force me to vote for these undesirables/criminals/compulsive liars under threat of saying I aught to be gagged though if I do not? I just try and produce solutions and chuck them out there so perhaps someone might think, great, that makes sense, we'll do that. The thing is now my solutions get tossed out there and are seen by random people all over the place, not just here. I find it is the foreigners who take an interest. The Brits are utterly negative on any solution mode of thought. Ideas are attacked, moans and groans are liked.
I think you misunderstand. My point was that there seems to be significant disengagement now compared to 2019 even taking into account the natural disinclination of the electorate to bother with by elections. Your response indicated a lack of interest or concern. I’m not saying you should be forced to vote for one on the people standing, far from it, if no one votes at all and the candidates have to toss a coin that’s how it is, but what I mean is those who stood and failed to stimulate interest really ought to be forced into the limelight and made to give their thoughts on why. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 17, 2022 13:17:41 GMT
I can't have a proper say because all I'm presented with is cretins. I do not back cretins - that's my say.
The thing is most know it is a fake democracy, and even if it were not, it would not fix it and probably make it worse. The whole country has lost it. We can not fix ourselves. We might wish or even demand things, but because of the mad nature of people, the act of doing something is invariably destructive.
Also why hold me to ransom and force me to vote for these undesirables/criminals/compulsive liars under threat of saying I aught to be gagged though if I do not? I just try and produce solutions and chuck them out there so perhaps someone might think, great, that makes sense, we'll do that. The thing is now my solutions get tossed out there and are seen by random people all over the place, not just here. I find it is the foreigners who take an interest. The Brits are utterly negative on any solution mode of thought. Ideas are attacked, moans and groans are liked.
I think you misunderstand. My point was that there seems to be significant disengagement now compared to 2019 even taking into account the natural disinclination of the electorate to bother with by elections. Your response indicated a lack of interest or concern. I’m not saying you should be forced to vote for one on the people standing, far from it, if no one votes at all and the candidates have to toss a coin that’s how it is, but what I mean is those who stood and failed to stimulate interest really ought to be forced into the limelight and made to give their thoughts on why. Yes well I do give many of my thoughts and sprinkle them on those who are possibly able to benefit from them. I'm interested in economic systems and try and guide people into seeing the economy in a rational and mathematical way. It's a bit of charity. Don't waste your energy with fools and failed systems, but try and think differently. Our country is in a rut of stupidity. There are ways out, so this is what we should be looking at. Another hobby of mine is advising politicians on matters to do with energy supplies and stuff like that. I use my physics skills to increase accuracy. The point is by doing it you are changing it. Ignorance is the biggest killer in the system. For example I had a fascinating debate with some chap on Youtube connected to the management of the railways. He knew all about the railways we have and the problems they cause and I was showing him new technology he was unaware of that can solve these problems. It's moving from a destructive relationship with those who actually have to make decisions to a constructive one. Perhaps in the end we will have a full circus of clowns in Westminster who know shit, but if we can talk to the ones who really are making important decisions which the clowns can't handle then an improvement can be realised. The way to do this is through accuracy. I'm very particular with checking facts so I build a reputation with the right people this way. |
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