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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 9:00:12 GMT
Really feel for their families, but they should have been taught about the dangers of icy lakes. This should never happen again.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 9:57:15 GMT
Really feel for their families, but they should have been taught about the dangers of icy lakes. This should never happen again. But you know it will. Did you obey your parents 100% when you were that age? I didn't I have no clever answers but I have every sympathy with the parents and am not going to make their position worse by criticising them |
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Post by dappy on Dec 14, 2022 10:14:52 GMT
Don't be a dick Vinny. Not big not clever. You are better than that.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 10:32:14 GMT
Really feel for their families, but they should have been taught about the dangers of icy lakes. This should never happen again. But you know it will. Did you obey your parents 100% when you were that age? I didn't I have no clever answers but I have every sympathy with the parents and am not going to make their position worse by criticising them Wasn't trying to criticise them. I really feel for them. But don't we have signs around the lake warning of the dangers? Rescue equipment? What happened, it's awful. Is there an issue with how we educate kids in schools about frozen lakes / rivers? |
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Post by dappy on Dec 14, 2022 10:34:49 GMT
No.
Sadly kids will be kids and occasionally things go wrong and a few kids will have an accident and even smaller number sadly will die. Its life unfortunately. Utterly tragic for the families concerned and they deserve our unequivocal empathy and support but you cant wrap kids up in cotton wool and you can't prevent every accident.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 11:13:55 GMT
Kids will be kids, parents deserve empathy, but the idea that we cannot do more?
Kids do have brains and can learn.
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Post by piglet on Dec 14, 2022 13:45:16 GMT
Im sure the parents would have prevented this if they could, wouldnt they? When i was that age i did loads of crazy stuff, its part of growing up, climbing trees, walking along narrow edges high up, going on long bike trips, playing on railway lines. I put stones on railway lines to be crushed by heavy engines. I put a big one on a main railway line , thinking a deisel would run over it, but a lighter train came along, and it bounced.
Me and my gang would go to Kings Cross to train spot, from Cambridge, and not tell our parents. And i have lived my life in a similar fearless way. Very very sad, being pre teen you would assume the ice was strong enough, probably with no idea how deep it would be underneath.
And because of things like this, kids are over protected.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 14, 2022 14:23:17 GMT
Really feel for their families, but they should have been taught about the dangers of icy lakes. This should never happen again. I have to hold my hand up and say I've done it many times before as a kid. We had a large duckpond in our town and every frozen day loads of us kids would go skating on it. The thing was the pond was not that deep, like perhaps 3 feet in the middle. No one ever fell in. We would kind of check the ice was thick enough. I mean we were pretty resourceful when it came to not injuring ourselves. |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 17:18:54 GMT
At 7 years old I walked out onto frozen water, fishermen had sawn through it and cut great big blocks of ice out to fish through, there was a block a foot thick, even though I'd been told not to go on ice, I figured the ice was thick enough after looking at the sawn chunk, and it was, but it scared the crap out of the girls I was with (they were older than me) and I got in loads of trouble with my Mum. I never did it again.
One winter I threw a half brick onto ice, and it bounced.
But, without any way to gauge how strong ice is, its always most sensible to stay off.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 17:24:21 GMT
People could put up all the warning signs they like but they'd have been ignored
About the only thing that might stop this happening again is for local groups to go smashing the ice up at ponds. Best of luck actually getting volunteers to do that
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Post by borchester on Dec 14, 2022 19:17:50 GMT
Kids will be kids, parents deserve empathy, but the idea that we cannot do more? Kids do have brains and can learn. Jesus Christ Vinny, if this board had an award for Autistic of the Year you would win it.
Parents have lost their children and there is nothing worse than that.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 19:18:29 GMT
True.
The saddest thing is, those parents are going to be spending Christmas without their kids, but with the presents they now cannot give their kids.
Such a tragedy.
I hope they get the support they need.
But, their lives will never be the same.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 14, 2022 19:46:02 GMT
A 4th child has now died.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 22:59:39 GMT
Sad news
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