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Post by Einhorn on Dec 16, 2022 11:18:30 GMT
Looking forward to your calling for more robust investigations into the awarding of PPE contracts, Russian interference in UK politics, a Russian oligarch being appointed to the House of Lords against the advice of the appointments committee and the intelligence services, etc., Doc. (Would you describe the Tory party as a cesspit of corruption?). Probably better you focus on the 0.1% of the EU Parliament alleged to have committed corruption - you know, the lady who was more than likely reported to the police by her own colleagues in the EU. LOL - you are having a laugh. 0.1% indeed..  Fraud and corruption have dogged the EU for decades, the Commission had to resign en masse in 1999 and March 2016 (just before the Brexit referendum) an independent investigation estimated that fraud and corruption cost the EU in excess of £750 billion in GDP terms annually. Face facts - fraud and corruption is endemic in the EU and always has been.. 'Arresting politicians is not proof a political system is corrupt. It is evidence that corruption is not tolerated in that system. When it comes to corrupt political systems, look at where investigations are blocked, look at where arrests are not made, other than a few scapegoats when it gets really bad. That is the sign of a corrupt political system.' www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChP57-a2unQCorruption in the EU is minimal considering its size. And it's acted on. Looking forward to similar action by the party you voted for, Doc. |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 16, 2022 11:57:18 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 16, 2022 12:04:21 GMT
The man who obviously colluded with Putin is calling the EU the mafia. Respectski the voteski Any company that lobbies MEPs is required to notify that fact on a transparency register. Where does this leave Farage's 'scoop' about all the lobbying material that supposedly lands on MEPs' desks every day? |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 16, 2022 12:15:06 GMT
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Post by Steve on Dec 16, 2022 12:16:37 GMT
Well I did look it up Still waiting for Pacifico to back that £750B figure he boasted |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 16, 2022 12:20:36 GMT
Well, he can only concede that the figure was mistaken.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2022 18:08:43 GMT
Sorry meant million.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 19:03:13 GMT
I have no idea why the Westminster party have done their utmost to stop Brexit and make it a failure, they must have missed it all going on.
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Post by Steve on Dec 17, 2022 21:43:17 GMT
I have no idea why the Westminster party have done their utmost to stop Brexit and make it a failure, they must have missed it all going on.  |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2022 10:14:09 GMT
I have no idea why the Westminster party have done their utmost to stop Brexit and make it a failure, they must have missed it all going on. Yep, it can be a waste of time replying to insinuated nonsense. |
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 19, 2022 10:37:19 GMT
The EU is not excusing the corruption that has been uncovered. On the contrary it has immediately dealt with it as far is possible without complete due process.
Charges of lobbying etc. apply to every corporate structure which tries to attract business, from the salesman getting orders for nail files to the wealthy country selling arms. Or buy8ng influence.
And for anyone in any country to accuse another body of corruption is either playing political games for their own reasons or is openly hypocritical.
It would be better if all bodies acted as quickly as the EU did.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 19, 2022 11:37:01 GMT
Quickly? Erm no, Daniel Hannan was making points about EU corruption decades ago.
Our MEPs were no use against it when we were members.
The EU has responded as willingly as FIFA, they only acted because the scale, is monumental, and this offence cannot be covered up.
Damage limitation basically.
The EU doesn't want to reform, to fix the expenses system, or anything. They'd still have the information stored in paper form only and only possible to read at the records offices in Brussels / Strasbourg if they could.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 19, 2022 11:46:54 GMT
The EU doesn't want to reform, to fix the expenses system, or anything. They'd still have the information stored in paper form only and only possible to read at the records offices in Brussels / Strasbourg if they could. Indeed - On top of salary, MEPs can claim €9,500 a month in expenses and allowances without providing receipts. They may hold other paid jobs and need not publicly register contacts with agents of foreign states. So its not surprising that corruption is rife. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 19, 2022 11:56:49 GMT
The EU doesn't want to reform, to fix the expenses system, or anything. They'd still have the information stored in paper form only and only possible to read at the records offices in Brussels / Strasbourg if they could. Indeed - On top of salary, MEPs can claim €9,500 a month in expenses and allowances without providing receipts. They may hold other paid jobs and need not publicly register contacts with agents of foreign states. So its not surprising that corruption is rife. Except it isn't. As for those expenses seems you forget that the European parliament has 2 geographically separated locations they attend in a rota. |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 19, 2022 12:14:52 GMT
Those expenses are a block grant paid without requirement of receipts, an MEP can use the cheapest method of travel and trouser the difference. Watch a video of Daniel Hannan explaining how it works.
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