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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 15:38:01 GMT
Brexit: 65% of voters say EU withdrawal has gone badly, poll finds
Steady ‘erosion’ in support for Brexit amid economic gloom, says Prof John Curtice Two in three Britons believe Brexit has gone badly, a poll has found – the highest level of negativity since Boris Johnson’s trade deal come into force at the start of 2021. Some 65 per cent of voters think Brexit was going badly and only 21 per cent said it is going well, the latest Opinium survey found. Polling guru Professor John Curtice told The Independent that the results reflected a steady “erosion” in support for Brexit, mainly due to economic turmoil. His own poll-of-polls analysis shows support for rejoining the EU at 57 per cent and staying out at 43 per cent if another referendum was held. “The proportion of people who say they would vote to rejoin has been going up in the past year,” said Prof Curtice. “There is no doubt that there has been something of a decline in support for Brexit.” He added: “The principal explanation for the shift seems to be to do with the economic consequences of Brexit. We are now somewhat more economically pessimistic about Brexit than we were.” Recommended Prof Curtice said the trend has been evident since stories about empty supermarket shelves, lack of lorry drivers and wider workforce shortages emerged last year. “It’s the economy that matters, surprise surprise.” The polling expert said immigration and the rise in small boat crossings in the English Channel may also have had an impact. “Leave voters have spotted that immigration has not gone down. One of the things that might have kept them loyal [to Brexit] is no longer there.” Opinium’s December poll shows 31 per cent think Brexit had gone “fairy badly” and 34 per cent think it has gone “very badly”, according to the National Centre for Social Research’s What UK Thinks tracker. Some 36 per cent said Brexit had gone worse than expected, while only 8 per cent said it had gone better than expected, according to the Opinium poll. It comes as new analysis shows that consumers in the UK have cut back spending more than almost any other industrialised country – ranking 41st out of 43 nations. Britons’ spending in the three months to September was 3.2 per cent below pre-Covid levels – the third worst across leading economics, according to Financial Times analysis. Meanwhile, Prof Curtice said Rishi Sunak’s Conservatives are set to lose around half of their MPs at the next general election based on current opinion polling. Recommended The polling expert said the seats of chancellor Jeremy Hunt, deputy prime minister Dominic Raab and former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith appear particularly vulnerable. “The Conservative Party, at the moment, on current polls would indeed lose half of all its MPs,” he told GB News. “Interestingly, out of the 15 or so MPs who have said that they're going to stand down, seven are currently in constituencies which, given the current polls, might well be lost. It’s around a half and is actually no higher than the total proportion of all the Conservative MPs who are now likely to be at risk.” www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-regret-economy-rejoin-eu-b2242226.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 15:39:58 GMT
"65% of voters say EU withdrawal has gone badly"
Fake news.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 15:41:53 GMT
"65% of voters say EU withdrawal has gone badly" Fake news. Steiner's Battalion will be along any moment, Cuddles.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 10, 2022 18:09:56 GMT
and?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 19:12:31 GMT
The trend would appear to be in one direction.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 10, 2022 22:30:35 GMT
The trend would appear to be in one direction. So?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 22:35:36 GMT
The trend would appear to be in one direction. So? Loving the gritty minimalism, Doc.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 10, 2022 22:39:14 GMT
Loving the gritty minimalism, Doc. We are not in the EU (or likely to be) so I'm not sure what response you are expecting..
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 22:42:10 GMT
Loving the gritty minimalism, Doc. We are not in the EU (or likely to be) so I'm not sure what response you are expecting.. Well, I'm not sure it's exactly right to say the UK isn't in the EU. A part of it is still a de facto member and, if public opinion has any impact on politics, the rest is heading towards a closer relationship.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 10, 2022 22:46:09 GMT
We are not in the EU (or likely to be) so I'm not sure what response you are expecting.. Well, I'm not sure it's exactly right to say the UK isn't in the EU. A part of it is still a de facto member and, if public opinion has any impact on politics, the rest is heading towards a closer relationship. how?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 10, 2022 23:24:34 GMT
Well, I'm not sure it's exactly right to say the UK isn't in the EU. A part of it is still a de facto member and, if public opinion has any impact on politics, the rest is heading towards a closer relationship. how? Your guess is as good as mine. I think it's fair to say, though, that the higher the levels of dissatisfaction, the bolder will be the proposals. Looking forward to when?, where?, and why?, Doc.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 11, 2022 7:44:06 GMT
So we are not joining the EU, we are not joining the EEA, we are not having a Swiss style agreement - just what are you looking forward to?
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 11, 2022 7:58:47 GMT
It would be interesting to know which bit of Brexit has gone badly. Most of the things that people are complaining about are SFA to do with Brexit. For example the inflation is caused by a combination of energy prices (caused by war in Ukraine and the West prematurely trying to rely on renewables) and the QE that many nations resorted to to pay for the costs of the pandemic (furlough etc). Again it was nothing to do with Brexit - the EU printed vast amounts of money too and many EU countries had higher inflation than us.
None of the Project Fear threats materialised. Remember all the hording of tinned food and toilet paper? It's all gone pretty well I'd say. And the farmers have started reinstating hedges and stopped chopping down trees - which membership of the CAP dictated. When we get round to repealing the more stupid of the EU laws we'll see more benefits.
And of course when the Eurozone crashes (which is inevitable) we'll be very glad we left. The costs will huge.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 11, 2022 8:34:32 GMT
It would be interesting to know which bit of Brexit has gone badly. You are perfectly correct in that the negative effects of Brexit are massively over-hyped - by the same token there have been modest positive effects simply due to the unwillingness of the government to change anything. But at least we have saved ourselves £10 Billion a year..
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 11, 2022 9:04:21 GMT
It would be interesting to know which bit of Brexit has gone badly. Most of the things that people are complaining about are SFA to do with Brexit. For example the inflation is caused by a combination of energy prices (caused by war in Ukraine and the West prematurely trying to rely on renewables) and the QE that many nations resorted to to pay for the costs of the pandemic (furlough etc). Again it was nothing to do with Brexit - the EU printed vast amounts of money too and many EU countries had higher inflation than us. None of the Project Fear threats materialised. Remember all the hording of tinned food and toilet paper? It's all gone pretty well I'd say. And the farmers have started reinstating hedges and stopped chopping down trees - which membership of the CAP dictated. When we get round to repealing the more stupid of the EU laws we'll see more benefits. And of course when the Eurozone crashes (which is inevitable) we'll be very glad we left. The costs will huge. These threads are purely wind-up threads for those who lost a referendum and didn't get their own way. These threads demonstrate Brexit gets right under their skin and they can't let go. It was amusing at first, four years or so ago. Now it's just boring and these threads from the usual culprits should not be fed, and they should be left to die on their own accord.
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