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Post by Dogburger on Nov 18, 2024 15:51:54 GMT
IMHO Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea. Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place So the suspects may not even be in the UK. If it comes to trial. Maybe letting them bugger off to Pakistan and staying there will be the best result for all concerned |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 18:19:14 GMT
Anyone think this will be allowed to go ahead? linkI watched Richard Tice talking about this on GB News this morning, he seemed pretty confident about it, and from what I've seen on other clips, so does Farage. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 18, 2024 20:46:54 GMT
So the suspects may not even be in the UK. If it comes to trial. Maybe letting them bugger off to Pakistan and staying there will be the best result for all concerned Yes may be able to try them in their absence, and hopefully if convicted they get a long sentence which would deter them from ever coming back |
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Post by bancroft on Nov 18, 2024 21:38:15 GMT
I cannot see Reform suing the Muslims more the police for two tier policing yet this will fail if the police admit they did not follow standard procedure just before the affray.
I think this is the wrong case to allege two tier policing. I read today a journalist is being prosecuted for an unpc post yet when she phoned the police over hoodie thugs smashing cars with a crow bar no-one came. An easy case to support and there must be dozens like this.
For me Reform is a good idea yet Farage is losing it just too desperate to get any story against the government without doing the proper analysis.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 21:55:21 GMT
I cannot see Reform suing the Muslims more the police for two tier policing yet this will fail if the police admit they did not follow standard procedure just before the affray. I think this is the wrong case to allege two tier policing. I read today a journalist is being prosecuted for an unpc post yet when she phoned the police over hoodie thugs smashing cars with a crow bar no-one came. An easy case to support and there must be dozens like this. For me Reform is a good idea yet Farage is losing it just too desperate to get any story against the government without doing the proper analysis. I disagree. Farage and Tice aren't fools, and they have engaged TMI Limited who are apparently the most successful private prosecutors in the country, they wouldn't have got involved unless they were reasonably confident of the outcome. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 18, 2024 22:21:11 GMT
I cant see this going anywhere as the CPS have the final say - if they feel a private prosecution is not in the public interest they can block the case.
And as the CPS seem to be in no hurry to charge the perpetrators...
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 23:29:32 GMT
I cant see this going anywhere as the CPS have the final say - if they feel a private prosecution is not in the public interest they can block the case. And as the CPS seem to be in no hurry to charge the perpetrators... Yes I agree, but Farage & Tice chose TMI because of their reputation, when it comes to private prosecutions they know what they're doing. I'm sure they wouldn't have touched it unless there was better than average chance of success, and lets face it everyone knows there's a case to answer. But regardless of any outcomes, this is bad PR for the government and CPS. Reform UK are keeping this travesty of justice in the public eye, and for that alone they should be applauded. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 19, 2024 0:05:06 GMT
I cant see this going anywhere as the CPS have the final say - if they feel a private prosecution is not in the public interest they can block the case. And as the CPS seem to be in no hurry to charge the perpetrators... Yes I agree, but Farage & Tice chose TMI because of their reputation, when it comes to private prosecutions they know what they're doing. I'm sure they wouldn't have touched it unless there was better than average chance of success, and lets face it everyone knows there's a case to answer. But regardless of any outcomes, this is bad PR for the government and CPS. Reform UK are keeping this travesty of justice in the public eye, and for that alone they should be applauded. I think its nothing but political engineering by reform like i said hope it comes to trail but wouldn't be surprised if the outcome isnt what they expected |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2024 0:12:36 GMT
I think its nothing but political engineering by reform like i said hope it comes to trail but wouldn't be surprised if the outcome isnt what they expected There may be something in that, in taking out this private prosecution Reform UK certainly haven't damaged their popularity. The outcome is, for now at least, not the point. Reform UK are keeping this in the public eye, they're keeping it on the front pages, and that will be a huge embarrassment for the government and the CPS. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 19, 2024 0:23:00 GMT
I think its nothing but political engineering by reform like i said hope it comes to trail but wouldn't be surprised if the outcome isnt what they expected There may be something in that, in taking out this private prosecution Reform UK certainly haven't damaged their popularity. The outcome is, for now at least, not the point. Reform UK are keeping this in the public eye, they're keeping it on the front pages, and that will be a huge embarrassment for the government and the CPS. Ok lets say the private prosecutions allowed to go ahead a like i said they dont get the result they want it would look very bad for them . To carry it out would make trice and Farage look very foolish if they are smart cookies has yoi claim tbey leave it alone |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2024 2:02:16 GMT
Ok lets say the private prosecutions allowed to go ahead a like i said they dont get the result they want it would look very bad for them . To carry it out would make trice and Farage look very foolish if they are smart cookies has yoi claim tbey leave it alone You have to be kidding! TTL, regardless of the final result there is no way Reform UK will come out of this badly, not a snowballs chance in hell. If the prosecution is successful Farage and Tice will be heroes. If the government via the CPS block it, Farage and Tice will be heroes. Don't you see? There is such a groundswell of anger about this attempted cover up that Farage and Tice cant lose. The embarrassment that is the Home Secretary and the CPS have fucked up, and they know it. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 19, 2024 2:38:27 GMT
Ok lets say the private prosecutions allowed to go ahead a like i said they dont get the result they want it would look very bad for them . To carry it out would make trice and Farage look very foolish if they are smart cookies has yoi claim tbey leave it alone You have to be kidding! TTL, regardless of the final result there is no way Reform UK will come out of this badly, not a snowballs chance in hell. If the prosecution is successful Farage and Tice will be heroes. If the government via the CPS block it, Farage and Tice will be heroes. Don't you see? There is such a groundswell of anger about this attempted cover up that Farage and Tice cant lose. The embarrassment that is the Home Secretary and the CPS have fucked up, and they know it. And if the prosecution isnt successful and they get found not guilty the cps and both conservatives and Labour government would look right in not bringing it to court. Reform will look very silly indeed . Why do you think it been said all along it wasnt a straightforward case and not has it seems . Cant think when the Alleged incident happened but the police didn't send the investigation files to the cps until August |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2024 3:06:52 GMT
And if the prosecution isnt successful and they get found not guilty the cps and both conservatives and Labour government would look right in not bringing it to court. Reform will look very silly indeed . Why do you think it been said all along it wasnt a straightforward case and not has it seems . Cant think when the Alleged incident happened but the police didn't send the investigation files to the cps until August "If they're found guilty" Are you serious? Watch the first few minutes of this clip... If the assailants had been white and English there is absolutely no doubt they would have been arrested charged and within a week fast tracked to a minimum five years in prison. The only reason the police, CPS and government are attempting to cover this up is because the assailants are Muslims. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 19, 2024 3:43:13 GMT
I dont believe for one minute what your saying it was covered up because there Muslims and is that why reform are bringing up the private prosecution because there Muslims. There no doubting that the police officers shoved the Muslims man head against the car park vending machine.
Then the other guy assaulted THE police tgwre no doubt both parties lost it afterwards the police officer kicked a man in the head when on the ground. The sane police officer then goes upto a man a man kicked him in the stomach when he was sat down with his Arms behide his back
I Believe that the clucks of the matter was there reasonable force used by the police that would be there lawyers defence
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2024 4:01:16 GMT
I dont believe for one minute what your saying it was covered up because there Muslims and is that why reform are bringing up the private prosecution because there Muslims. There no doubting that the police officers shoved the Muslims man head against the car park vending machine. Then the other guy assaulted THE police tgwre no doubt both parties lost it afterwards the police officer kicked a man in the head when on the ground. The sane police officer then goes upto a man a man kicked him in the stomach when he was sat down with his Arms behide his back I Believe that the clucks of the matter was there reasonable force used by the police that would be there lawyers defence The only reason these thugs are not in prison is because they're Muslims, and embarrassingly for this excuse of a government, the world knows it. |
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