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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 8:41:54 GMT
Anyone think this will be allowed to go ahead? link |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 18, 2024 8:45:27 GMT
2 tier government. Everything else flows down from there.
We live in mad times.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 18, 2024 10:06:35 GMT
Anyone think this will be allowed to go ahead? linkIm not sure what you mean can a government stop private court proceedings. I hope it goes a head |
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Post by om15 on Nov 18, 2024 10:18:33 GMT
It is possible that the CPS could attempt to take over the case and then drop it, Tice has anticipated this and warned against it, whatever the outcome this is a massive attack on the Government, it will embarrass them and draw media attention to the two tier justice system. TM Eye have a good track record (100% success in the last 800 cases), tm-eye.co.uk/results/This will be well worth following. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 10:21:23 GMT
Anyone think this will be allowed to go ahead? linkIm not sure what you mean can a government stop private court proceedings. I hope it goes a head TTL you really need to look at things yourself before you ask questions,the important words here are in the public interest,it’s whatever you deem public interest I know how I would interpret it if it was used to stop this. |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 18, 2024 10:24:01 GMT
The government will not want the embarrassment nor the political fall out should Reform be seen to be prosecuting criminals .Its therefore highly likely IMO that the CPS will take over the case if Reform put in a private prosecution .
Reform will say it was themselves that made the CPS act and the CPS will say they were doing it anyway .
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Post by Handyman on Nov 18, 2024 10:27:19 GMT
IMHO
Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea.
Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground
As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place
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Post by honestjohn on Nov 18, 2024 10:36:38 GMT
The government will not want the embarrassment nor the political fall out should Reform be seen to be prosecuting criminals .Its therefore highly likely IMO that the CPS will take over the case if Reform put in a private prosecution . Reform will say it was themselves that made the CPS act and the CPS will say they were doing it anyway . Yes. You beat me to it. Expect an announcement about charges soon, which will be the minimum possible, like ABH for a broken nose, or even just assaulting police/emergency worker. |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 18, 2024 10:42:33 GMT
IMHO Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea. Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place The only thing the IOPC should be investigating is did the police officer kick him hard enough .Its about time they backed our police force rather than it seems undermining everything they do . For sure there are times when officers need taking to task but this clearly wasn't one of them and I fail to see why its taking so long . Even if they do find the officer was acting unlawfully in kicking the thug that should not stop the prosecution of what went on beforehand |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 18, 2024 10:47:52 GMT
IMHO Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea. Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place So the suspects may not even be in the UK. If it comes to trial. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 18, 2024 10:53:35 GMT
IMHO Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea. Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place The only thing the IOPC should be investigating is did the police officer kick him hard enough .Its about time they backed our police force rather than it seems undermining everything they do . For sure there are times when officers need taking to task but this clearly wasn't one of them and I fail to see why its taking so long . Even if they do find the officer was acting unlawfully in kicking the thug that should not stop the prosecution of what went on beforehand IMO that is what the IOPC is doing investigating the alleged kicking or stamping by one Officer, even if they were not investing it would come out in Court as and when the suspect or suspects are charged and go to trial, it may be months before this Trial is heard by a Court due to a backlog in the Court System |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 18, 2024 10:57:10 GMT
IMHO Reform would have to apply to a Court to ask them if they would allow them to bring a Prosecution against the suspects for Assaulting the Officers, they would also need to ask the CPS for the evidence of the Police Investigation, would they allow it ? no idea. Again as I understand it the delay in this case is because the Independent Office for Police Conduct is Investigating this matter as it is alleged Police stamped or kicked a suspect on the head when one the ground As I understand it the suspects are currently on Bail whilst this is taking place So the suspects may not even be in the UK. If it comes to trial. It is possible unless there is a Bail Condition that means they have had to surrender their Passports, which is usually done by a Court but as far as I am aware they have not been charged yet |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 18, 2024 11:24:16 GMT
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Post by piglet on Nov 18, 2024 11:43:13 GMT
Have good cheer, its Labour holding a gun to their own head and pulling the trigger.
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Post by om15 on Nov 18, 2024 14:20:27 GMT
I suspect Reform have just won the next General Election.
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