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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 18, 2024 17:57:15 GMT
We don’t need to kill them. We just need to make the UK a worse option than staying in France . Ah, is that why the Tories have been destroying the country, makes sense now. They wanted to make it worse than the camps in Calais, they did pretty well too. And Starmer is doing splendidly at carrying on in that vein
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Post by Orac on Nov 18, 2024 17:58:36 GMT
That vigorous group of healthy young men have in their number, where over 60 % lie between the ages of 30 and 60, approx 15% whose health is recorded as fair to poor (similar to the resident population) the only advantage is they are younger overall. Yes that's why they need more every year. Are you struggling with the concept of aging? I thought 'replacement theory' was supposed to be one of those horrid right wing canards. It seems it's built into the rationale for immigration
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 18:12:49 GMT
Rwanda was a deterrent, the Irish government said illegals were crossing from Northern Ireland into the EU because they were worried about being sent to Rwanda, that's called a deterrent. Come on Red, I know you're not geographically illiterate, so I'm sure you're aware that they still came across the English channel, so saying that it deters the boats is actually disingenuous. Last April Irish Foreign Minister Micheál Martin launched a blistering attack on the British governments Rwanda plan, he said it was forcing migrants to flee the UK to Ireland, via Northern Ireland. Since Starmer scrapped the Rwanda plan, the flow of migrants crossing the Irish border, according to the Garda, has completely stopped. Anyone who says Rwanda was not a deterrent either has an agenda, or dont know what they're talking about.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 18:18:09 GMT
That vigorous group of healthy young men have in their number, where over 60 % lie between the ages of 30 and 60, approx 15% whose health is recorded as fair to poor (similar to the resident population) the only advantage is they are younger overall. Yes that's why they need more every year. Are you struggling with the concept of aging? I know I risk getting your knickers in a twist for you but maybe we should encourage the natives to breed rather than import from abroad. Too many white people involved for you ?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 18:21:20 GMT
Ah, is that why the Tories have been destroying the country, makes sense now. They wanted to make it worse than the camps in Calais, they did pretty well too. I suggest that you breath in an organic paper bag for a while . You seem to have triggered yourself . Are you saying that all of France is similar to the camps in Calais , are you waffling or are you trying to be droll? We need to know. t was a joke, sorry it went over your head.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 18:22:19 GMT
Ah that bit of daftness, sorry I thought that had been so thoroughly debunked it was dead. So we turn a bot around by force without harming anyone in an overloaded dingy and we push them into French waters. Then they turn around again and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, We could use the Kim Jon BloidySillyHaircut approach 50cal machine gun and flamethrower on the corpses Sorry John, but I don't think so.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 18:27:24 GMT
I suggest that you breath in an organic paper bag for a while . You seem to have triggered yourself . Are you saying that all of France is similar to the camps in Calais , are you waffling or are you trying to be droll? We need to know. t was a joke, sorry it went over your head. Nope. It was a lame attempt at a joke that fell flat .
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 18:29:08 GMT
t was a joke, sorry it went over your head. Nope. It was a lame attempt at a joke that fell flat . Are you joke monitor now?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 18:39:28 GMT
Nope. It was a lame attempt at a joke that fell flat . Are you joke monitor now? Is that a joke ?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 18, 2024 19:06:57 GMT
Who said anything about killing them ffs. If we stopped the boats and turned them around in mid channel that would be their own choice to put their lives in jeopardy. Some are dying now in the channel in their headlong rush to get to the promised land. Ah that bit of daftness, sorry I thought that had been so thoroughly debunked it was dead. So we turn a bot around by force without harming anyone in an overloaded dingy and we push them into French waters. Then they turn around again and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, And eventully they would get the message if they were not able to reach UK shores..
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 18, 2024 19:51:54 GMT
Come on Red, I know you're not geographically illiterate, so I'm sure you're aware that they still came across the English channel, so saying that it deters the boats is actually disingenuous. Last April Irish Foreign Minister Micheál Martin launched a blistering attack on the British governments Rwanda plan, he said it was forcing migrants to flee the UK to Ireland, via Northern Ireland. Since Starmer scrapped the Rwanda plan, the flow of migrants crossing the Irish border, according to the Garda, has completely stopped. Anyone who says Rwanda was not a deterrent either has an agenda, or dont know what they're talking about. Deterrent from what? They still crossed the English Channel. 🤣🙈 What you mean is they then exited the uk. Well yes, but then don't pretend it's faux outrage about stopping the boats if you're OK with them arriving as long as they leave...
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 19:53:15 GMT
Ah that bit of daftness, sorry I thought that had been so thoroughly debunked it was dead. So we turn a bot around by force without harming anyone in an overloaded dingy and we push them into French waters. Then they turn around again and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, then they turn around and we turn them back again, And eventually they would get the message if they were not able to reach UK shores.. Have we got enough boats? What happens when there's a collision and some die?
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 20:05:03 GMT
Last April Irish Foreign Minister Micheál Martin launched a blistering attack on the British governments Rwanda plan, he said it was forcing migrants to flee the UK to Ireland, via Northern Ireland. Since Starmer scrapped the Rwanda plan, the flow of migrants crossing the Irish border, according to the Garda, has completely stopped. Anyone who says Rwanda was not a deterrent either has an agenda, or dont know what they're talking about. Deterrent from what? They still crossed the English Channel. 🤣🙈 What you mean is they then exited the uk. Well yes, but then don't pretend it's faux outrage about stopping the boats if you're OK with them arriving as long as they leave... For Christs sake... the Irish government were of the opinion Rwanda was a deterrent and complained about the number of illegals crossing from Northern Ireland back into the EU. If Rwanda had been given a chance it would quite obviously have become even more of a deterrent. Starmer didn't scrap Rwanda because it was a bad idea, he scrapped it because it was a Tory idea. I mean look at what he's suggesting now, pouring cash into Uzbekistan Vietnam Iraq etc etc in an attempt to encourage those governments to stop immigrants leaving! Starmer is incompetent.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 20:28:40 GMT
Deterrent from what? They still crossed the English Channel. 🤣🙈 What you mean is they then exited the uk. Well yes, but then don't pretend it's faux outrage about stopping the boats if you're OK with them arriving as long as they leave... For Christs sake... the Irish government were of the opinion Rwanda was a deterrent and complained about the number of illegals crossing from Northern Ireland back into the EU. If Rwanda had been given a chance it would quite obviously have become even more of a deterrent. Starmer didn't scrap Rwanda because it was a bad idea, he scrapped it because it was a Tory idea. I mean look at what he's suggesting now, pouring cash into Uzbekistan Vietnam Iraq etc etc in an attempt to encourage those governments to stop immigrants leaving! Starmer is incompetent. Whatever stops them Red.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 20:29:42 GMT
Last April Irish Foreign Minister Micheál Martin launched a blistering attack on the British governments Rwanda plan, he said it was forcing migrants to flee the UK to Ireland, via Northern Ireland. Since Starmer scrapped the Rwanda plan, the flow of migrants crossing the Irish border, according to the Garda, has completely stopped. Anyone who says Rwanda was not a deterrent either has an agenda, or dont know what they're talking about. Deterrent from what? They still crossed the English Channel. 🤣🙈 What you mean is they then exited the uk. Well yes, but then don't pretend it's faux outrage about stopping the boats if you're OK with them arriving as long as they leave... Faux outrage ? Migrants travelling through the UK because they might get a better deal in Ireland merely puts us into the same category as France .
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