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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 17, 2024 17:47:35 GMT
The autumn budget calls for £201 bn spending on healthcare, and £94 bn on education.
The over-80s population is around 4 million currently, or approximately 6% of the total. Let's say their healthcare costs 3 times as much as the general population, of 18% of the budget. That amounts to £36 bn.
Assume also that 40% of the education budget, or £38 bn goes for the education of children of immigrant background.
Not much in it really.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2024 17:48:59 GMT
That’s the NHS for you. It’s a burden we need not have had. The hugest cost the NHS faces by a country mile is aging population. All those 80+ year olds. Who's going to pay for that? The immigrants contribute more than they claim for a number of years after arrival. More bullshit from planet zany. I see you never posted on the thread where the wankers are now going to get private healthcare. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 17, 2024 18:49:49 GMT
That’s the NHS for you. It’s a burden we need not have had. The hugest cost the NHS faces by a country mile is aging population. All those 80+ year olds. Who's going to pay for that? The immigrants contribute more than they claim for a number of years after arrival.
Depends who they are and where they come from. In 1992, Denmark took in 321 Palestinian refugees. By 2019, 64% of them had been convicted of a crime. 34% of their children had also been convicted of a crime. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 19:12:19 GMT
It doesn't dumb student, that's a separate problem. Prove it, because the evidence says it is all part and partial. Nothing is ever proven, don't you know that. All there is is evidence. In the sense that everything is linked you are right, but we humans learned to separate problems, so we don't think we must solve the boiler not firing as part of changing the car tyres. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 17, 2024 19:16:09 GMT
The hugest cost the NHS faces by a country mile is aging population. All those 80+ year olds. Who's going to pay for that? The immigrants contribute more than they claim for a number of years after arrival.
Depends who they are and where they come from. In 1992, Denmark took in 321 Palestinian refugees. By 2019, 64% of them had been convicted of a crime. 34% of their children had also been convicted of a crime. It shows you what crazy bastards they are. They whimper on about being shot at, but are hardly good neighbours. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 19:16:40 GMT
The autumn budget calls for £201 bn spending on healthcare, and £94 bn on education. The over-80s population is around 4 million currently, or approximately 6% of the total. Let's say their healthcare costs 3 times as much as the general population, of 18% of the budget. That amounts to £36 bn. Assume also that 40% of the education budget, or £38 bn goes for the education of children of immigrant background. Not much in it really. More than two-fifths of national health spending in the UK is devoted to people over 65, according to estimates produced for the Guardian by the Nuffield Trust – a figure that is only likely to increase with the nation’s ageing demographic. The data shows that an 85-year-old man costs the NHS about seven times more on average than a man in his late 30s. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 19:18:05 GMT
The hugest cost the NHS faces by a country mile is aging population. All those 80+ year olds. Who's going to pay for that? The immigrants contribute more than they claim for a number of years after arrival. More bullshit from planet zany. I see you never posted on the thread where the wankers are now going to get private healthcare. Not illegal migrants Jonsky. The legal ones we invited to come and work here. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 19:20:45 GMT
The hugest cost the NHS faces by a country mile is aging population. All those 80+ year olds. Who's going to pay for that? The immigrants contribute more than they claim for a number of years after arrival.
Depends who they are and where they come from. In 1992, Denmark took in 321 Palestinian refugees. By 2019, 64% of them had been convicted of a crime. 34% of their children had also been convicted of a crime. Not those ones. The ones who applied to work here and were accepted. The 8 million, not the few hundred thousand. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 19:33:19 GMT
Prove it, because the evidence says it is all part and partial. Nothing is ever proven, don't you know that. All there is is evidence. In the sense that everything is linked you are right, but we humans learned to separate problems, so we don't think we must solve the boiler not firing as part of changing the car tyres. I thought you might like that but we weren't talking about car tyres or boilers. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 17, 2024 20:22:03 GMT
More bullshit from planet zany. I see you never posted on the thread where the wankers are now going to get private healthcare. The legal ones we invited to come and work here. Is this the 'royal we'? The British public as whole have said they don't want them |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 20:33:34 GMT
The legal ones we invited to come and work here. Is this the 'royal we'? The British public as whole have said they don't want them It wasn't me honest. Not the royal we either but the elected we. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 17, 2024 21:02:36 GMT
Is this the 'royal we'? The British public as whole have said they don't want them It wasn't me honest. Not the royal we either but the elected we. i'm sure you understand the tension here, we have discussed it often enough. How much responsibly do you take one when someone says they will do something, but then does the opposite when you hand them the power? it's not superposed to be a clever-ass, rhetorical question, because i don't feel the answer is zero. I do feel it has been obvious for a while that, for this particular issue, democracy has been disabled. The British people are responsible for inviting these people to the degree that they failed to take tyre arms and machetes to the civil service who invited them against the UK public's democratically indicated will. I guess you can call that a failure to make their wishes clear enough |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 21:08:10 GMT
It wasn't me honest. Not the royal we either but the elected we. i'm sure you understand the tension here, we have discussed it often enough. How much responsibly do you take one when someone says they will do something, but then does the opposite when you hand them the power? it's not superposed to be a clever-ass question, because i don't feel the answer is zero. I do feel it has been obvious for a while that, for this particular issue, democracy has been disabled. The British people are responsible for inviting these people to the degree that they failed to take tyre arms and machetes to the civil service who invited them against their democratically indicated will Well you wouldn't re-elect them 3 times would you. Someone did. The civil service aren't to blame the government is |
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Post by Orac on Nov 17, 2024 21:16:23 GMT
i'm sure you understand the tension here, we have discussed it often enough. How much responsibly do you take one when someone says they will do something, but then does the opposite when you hand them the power? it's not superposed to be a clever-ass question, because i don't feel the answer is zero. I do feel it has been obvious for a while that, for this particular issue, democracy has been disabled. The British people are responsible for inviting these people to the degree that they failed to take tyre arms and machetes to the civil service who invited them against their democratically indicated will Well you wouldn't re-elect them 3 times would you. Someone did. The civil service aren't to blame the government is Sure you would, if the only feasible alternatives were promising yet more would be invited But this is just another way to highlight my outline the UK public's failings - rather than believe in democracy and civil order, they should have taken a more 'hands-on' approach. I hope you agree. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 21:21:28 GMT
Well you wouldn't re-elect them 3 times would you. Someone did. The civil service aren't to blame the government is Sure you would, if the only feasible alternatives were promising yet more would be invited Sadly I tend to agree. There was no party we believed would curb immigration. even sadder that's because no one dare discuss the costs of stopping it. You see the classic reaction on here. We have become a cake and eat it society. |
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