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Post by Vinny on Nov 13, 2024 19:14:06 GMT
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 14, 2024 9:37:00 GMT
To be fair I was in favour of the deal as I understood it when it was released a couple of months ago . Returning the Islands to the people seemed the right thing to do .
Giving them away to Mauritius though is a completely different matter and Farage is right , a new deal taking into consideration what the Islanders want should be made
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Post by thomas on Nov 14, 2024 9:41:54 GMT
To be fair I was in favour of the deal as I understood it when it was released a couple of months ago . Returning the Islands to the people seemed the right thing to do . Giving them away to Mauritius though is a completely different matter and Farage is right , a new deal taking into consideration what the Islanders want should be made The argument over the chagos islands effectively goes back to the sixties , when the british ethnically cleansed the chagossians off the islands to make way for a base. In modern times , its went to the UN , where they had a vote on returning the islands to the chagossians , and the world unanimously voted against britian. I think you are right. Essentially the islands should go back to the chagossians , but for some weird reason ( speculation abounds) starmer has given chagos to Mauritius without consulting the natives. The incoming yank president trump and his advisers are rightly pissed off , calling the chagos islands as the most important base to America in the entire world. So not sure how this will end , but again , starmers looks weak and stupid over his entire handling of the affair , not to mention corrupt , as he is close friends with Mauritius chief legal negotiator. I think trump will put starmer and labour in their place and the lease deal ripped up in his face. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 14, 2024 9:56:09 GMT
To be fair I was in favour of the deal as I understood it when it was released a couple of months ago . Returning the Islands to the people seemed the right thing to do . Giving them away to Mauritius though is a completely different matter and Farage is right , a new deal taking into consideration what the Islanders want should be made Agreed. And give them an MP so they have a voice in Parliament. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 14, 2024 9:59:35 GMT
huh? give them a voice in what parliament?
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Post by thomas on Nov 14, 2024 10:09:30 GMT
im assuming vinny means the uk parliament. British crown dependencies and overseas territories are not part of the uk state .They tend to be self governing. , with their own legislatures.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 14, 2024 13:43:26 GMT
im assuming vinny means the uk parliament. British crown dependencies and overseas territories are not part of the uk state .They tend to be self governing. , with their own legislatures. And they do have some representation through all party parliamentary groups along with the ability to petition the government . Not much good with zero population though |
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Post by thomas on Nov 14, 2024 13:49:13 GMT
im assuming vinny means the uk parliament. British crown dependencies and overseas territories are not part of the uk state .They tend to be self governing. , with their own legislatures. And they do have some representation through all party parliamentary groups along with the ability to petition the government . Not much good with zero population though vinny just doesn't like the idea of self governing legislatures .Despite his anti brussells rants , he himself mirrors the Brussels zealots in his centrism. I think the parliamentary groups are over rated. very much so. |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 14, 2024 18:14:22 GMT
And they do have some representation through all party parliamentary groups along with the ability to petition the government . Not much good with zero population though vinny just doesn't like the idea of self governing legislatures .Despite his anti brussells rants , he himself mirrors the Brussels zealots in his centrism. I think the parliamentary groups are over rated. very much so. Well we will next year how this one plays out . All involved will have had months to get their arguments in order and our MP's will hopefully all be up to speed on the consequences of their vote . I can not see in a democracy that the Chaggasians (hope thats right) will not be front and centre on any decision or a major influence on how the MP's vote on this . Lets hope they do the right thing |
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