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Post by jonksy on Nov 10, 2024 17:10:44 GMT
A trade deal with the US might be more restrictive than the one we had with the EU . The US will want some advantages for their corporations. It will be cheaper to deal with USA than it is with the eu.. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 17:29:24 GMT
A trade deal with the US might be more restrictive than the one we had with the EU . The US will want some advantages for their corporations. It will be cheaper to deal with USA than it is with the eu.. You would need Farage in a position to make a deal with Trump, while the chance of that is nil and all the establishment have to do is just twiddle their thumbs for a few years and that is something we all know they are good at. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 10, 2024 17:33:33 GMT
It will be cheaper to deal with USA than it is with the eu.. You would need Farage in a position to make a deal with Trump, while the chance of that is nil and all the establishment have to do is just twiddle their thumbs for a few years and that is something we all know they are good at. Of course starmer and clammy have put the mockers on any decent deal with trump... |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 17:49:52 GMT
You would need Farage in a position to make a deal with Trump, while the chance of that is nil and all the establishment have to do is just twiddle their thumbs for a few years and that is something we all know they are good at. Of course starmer and clammy have put the mockers on any decent deal with trump... They will be trying to hold the tide back if Trump sticks with non tariff trade deal with the UK he is no fool he knows that will create a backlash for Starmer. Don't be surprised if at some point they admit they need Farage more than he needs them. We shall see. That would be the biggest kick in the teeth for Starmer going. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 10, 2024 17:54:09 GMT
It will be cheaper to deal with USA than it is with the eu.. You would need Farage in a position to make a deal with Trump, while the chance of that is nil and all the establishment have to do is just twiddle their thumbs for a few years and that is something we all know they are good at. I watched the former liberal mp Norman baker , a man who I have a bit of time for , and quite an intelligent guy , talk the other day about David lammy , and how he thinks lammy is completely out of his depth , and not up to the job of foreign secretary. Thats before we even talk about him or his boss starmer trying to deal with trump. Trump doesn't suffer fools I hear , and almost never forgets old scores he needs to settle , so it's going to be amusing watching him deal with labour. I suspect there will be a lot of embarrassing arse licking to world wide ridicule from our Westminster government. Would nt it be funny as fuck if Trump broke ranks from normal diplomatic relations and by passed labour and dealt with his chum Farage in some capacity or other? Talk about a slap down to the party that labelled him a nazi among much else. What would labour do about it? make a strenuous protest ? ask for a donation ? hold a party meeting to send trump a strongly worded e mail? |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 10, 2024 17:56:55 GMT
are we all forgetting it was the mighty American economy that caused the 2008 recession worldwide
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 10, 2024 17:59:33 GMT
are we all forgetting it was the mighty American economy that caused the 2008 recession worldwide How does that have a bearing on any future trade deals?.. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 18:00:08 GMT
You would need Farage in a position to make a deal with Trump, while the chance of that is nil and all the establishment have to do is just twiddle their thumbs for a few years and that is something we all know they are good at. I watched the former liberal mp Norman baker , a man who I have a bit of time for , and quite an intelligent guy , talk the other day about David lammy , and how he thinks lammy is completely out of his depth , and not up to the job of foreign secretary. Thats before we even talk about him or his boss starmer trying to deal with trump. Trump doesn't suffer fools I hear , and almost never forgets old scores he needs to settle , so it's going to be amusing watching him deal with labour. I suspect there will be a lot of embarrassing arse licking to world wide ridicule from our Westminster government. Would nt it be funny as fuck if Trump broke ranks from normal diplomatic relations and by passed labour and dealt with his chum Farage in some capacity or other? Talk about a slap down to the party that labelled him a nazi among much else. What would labour do about it? make a strenuous protest ? ask for a donation ? hold a party meeting to send trump a strongly worded e mail? One thing for sure he hates Starmers politics and will look at as many ways as possible to bring him down for previous misdemeanors. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 10, 2024 18:04:53 GMT
I watched the former liberal mp Norman baker , a man who I have a bit of time for , and quite an intelligent guy , talk the other day about David lammy , and how he thinks lammy is completely out of his depth , and not up to the job of foreign secretary. Thats before we even talk about him or his boss starmer trying to deal with trump. Trump doesn't suffer fools I hear , and almost never forgets old scores he needs to settle , so it's going to be amusing watching him deal with labour. I suspect there will be a lot of embarrassing arse licking to world wide ridicule from our Westminster government. Would nt it be funny as fuck if Trump broke ranks from normal diplomatic relations and by passed labour and dealt with his chum Farage in some capacity or other? Talk about a slap down to the party that labelled him a nazi among much else. What would labour do about it? make a strenuous protest ? ask for a donation ? hold a party meeting to send trump a strongly worded e mail? One thing for sure he hates Starmers politics and will look at as many ways as possible to bring him down for previous misdemeanors. fingers crossed. I think trumps election has been the one thing that has put a smile on my face politically speaking for a number of years now .certainly one massive turd in the beer barrel for the loonie liberals running riot among the western world. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 10, 2024 18:13:19 GMT
are we all forgetting it was the mighty American economy that caused the 2008 recession worldwide How does that have a bearing on any future trade deals?.. well it just shows the mighty American economy will hit very hard them in close relationship with it |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 18:19:11 GMT
One thing for sure he hates Starmers politics and will look at as many ways as possible to bring him down for previous misdemeanors. fingers crossed. I think trumps election has been the one thing that has put a smile on my face politically speaking for a number of years now .certainly one massive turd in the beer barrel for the loonie liberals running riot among the western world. It won't be all flowers and chocolates you can bet on that, we shall see how many are left screaming. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2024 18:29:39 GMT
It's been reported that during a telephone conversation between Trump and Starmer, Trump said 'the UK will always have a friend in me'. So bearing this in mind, should Starmer grab this olive branch and pursue a closer relationship including trade deals that will benefit both the US and the UK but will inevitably annoy the EU. Or should he turn his back on Trump and remain an EU yes man? Trump will only ever look after himself, If the means trade with the UK that is what he will do. It may well be left to the UK and the EU to defend European and Western Democracy. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 10, 2024 18:29:51 GMT
well it just shows the mighty American economy will hit very hard them in close relationship with it TTL, the US has the biggest economy in the world. On the other hand, as a result of 'green initiatives', between July 2023 and July 2024, industrial production fell by 2.2% in the eurozone and by 1.7% in the European Union and is expected to fall further in the following years. I prefer to back a winner, and that's not the EU. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 18:31:56 GMT
It's been reported that during a telephone conversation between Trump and Starmer, Trump said 'the UK will always have a friend in me'. So bearing this in mind, should Starmer grab this olive branch and pursue a closer relationship including trade deals that will benefit both the US and the UK but will inevitably annoy the EU. Or should he turn his back on Trump and remain an EU yes man? Trump will only ever look after himself, If the means trade with the UK that is what he will do. It may well be left to the UK and the EU to defend European and Western Democracy. Rubbish he already has Farage repeating what Netanyahu wants. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 10, 2024 18:32:31 GMT
Trump will only ever look after himself, If the means trade with the UK that is what he will do. It may well be left to the UK and the EU to defend European and Western Democracy. I agree Trump will always put the US first, pity our politicians don't do the same. Even so, I think I'd sooner trust Trump than the EU who have shown themselves to be very bitter over Brexit. |
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