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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:14:34 GMT
Technically I could have but I wouldn't have and you full well know that. The point Vinny (and others) are trying to obscure is one side and one side only cheated by breaking the rules. And they did it in record breaking levels It's a fact and a fact Leavers will continue to find awkward as the years go on and we see the UK continue to be hampered economically by the Brexit outcome. They have their victory and technically their victory is legal but it is and will always be a pyrrhic one. I wouldn't want to argue for your soul. Remain was the most immoral and unethical force I have witnessed first hand. It was so odious that those on the fence supported Leave. The country is currently hampered by Remain (group PTSD?), Labour's past desire for huge lockdowns, which forced Tory hand, and their organised economically destructive strike force managed by Labour's beloved Unions. There's also part of Europe being invaded which has led to a full blown energy war, but that's probably completely irrelevant, because it's a wonderful paradise in the Eurozone, right? . . .. You do know you can get professional help for such deep paranoia don't you.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 14, 2022 23:32:55 GMT
No Sandy you're still relying on an illegally skewed referendum. You diss the General Elections and you diss your only legitimate electoral backing for Brexit. Unwise Where is the evidence it was skewed, we know there was an illegal overspend but where is the evidence that that overspend materially affected the outcome?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 23:40:44 GMT
I wouldn't want to argue for your soul. Remain was the most immoral and unethical force I have witnessed first hand. It was so odious that those on the fence supported Leave. The country is currently hampered by Remain (group PTSD?), Labour's past desire for huge lockdowns, which forced Tory hand, and their organised economically destructive strike force managed by Labour's beloved Unions. There's also part of Europe being invaded which has led to a full blown energy war, but that's probably completely irrelevant, because it's a wonderful paradise in the Eurozone, right? . . .. You do know you can get professional help for such deep paranoia don't you. I cannot help you with any psychological problems you may have. However, it could just be that you're not very intelligent.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:43:41 GMT
No Sandy you're still relying on an illegally skewed referendum. You diss the General Elections and you diss your only legitimate electoral backing for Brexit. Unwise Where is the evidence it was skewed, we know there was an illegal overspend but where is the evidence that that overspend materially affected the outcome? Well feel free to prove that record breaking illegal spending in the regulated period had no effect on the result. best of luck with that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 23:46:19 GMT
Where is the evidence it was skewed, we know there was an illegal overspend but where is the evidence that that overspend materially affected the outcome? Well feel free to prove that record breaking illegal spending in the regulated period had no effect on the result. best of luck with that It's no wonder you hide behind your emoticons.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:46:32 GMT
You do know you can get professional help for such deep paranoia don't you. I cannot help you with any psychological problems you may have. However, it could just be that you're not very intelligent.
Smart enough to spot your bonkers rubbish for what it was. Maybe you hoped no one would notice you could offer no evidence for your fanciful claims about immorality and unethical forces. Well it was spotted and is clear evidence of someone with a paranoic inability to process people having views different from you.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:47:12 GMT
Well feel free to prove that record breaking illegal spending in the regulated period had no effect on the result. best of luck with that It's no wonder you hide behind your emoticons. No hiding here. Seems you forget the wisdom that a picture tells a thousand words
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 23:50:21 GMT
I cannot help you with any psychological problems you may have. However, it could just be that you're not very intelligent.
Smart enough to spot your bonkers rubbish for what it was. Maybe you hoped no one would notice you could offer no evidence for your fanciful claims about immorality and unethical forces. Well it was spotted and is clear evidence of someone with a paranoic inability to process people having views different from you. I just see you posting personal attacks like an overly emotional child.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:52:28 GMT
You started it.
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Post by Steve on Dec 14, 2022 23:55:07 GMT
A reminder for you (referring to me): I would say, going by his last response to me, that he won't accept responsibility, not even for something that is obvious to all who can read. It literally has become a playground... nah nah nah. . . You then decided to impugn my soul So don't start things you can't handle B4
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 23:57:04 GMT
Dishonest to the end, huh? OK, you can have the last word.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 7:08:10 GMT
Ner, ner, ner.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 8:12:06 GMT
Because within the context of electoral rules and laws, outspending your opponent per se does not carry any unlawful connotation as spending over your legally allowed campaigned budget. but if one person has a smaller budget anyway is that fair - how can any campaign group outspend the government? So extra emails were more unfair than the governments leaflet? How was it necessary for a fair referendum?. Is a referendum only fair when one side vastly outspends the other? It shouldn't even occur to any campaign group to try to outspend the government. Yes. Those emails were unsolicited and the recipients didn't give consent. Therefore, they broke electoral law. Breaking electoral law renders elections and referendums undemocratic, you know. The government deemed it necessary in order to give true information to the public. And, No. A referendum is not "only fair when one side vastly outspends the other." David "Call Me Dave" Cameron was the one who returned home without the bacon. And he still did not support your side. Get over it.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 15, 2022 8:23:36 GMT
Yes. Those emails were unsolicited and the recipients didn't give consent. Therefore, they broke electoral law. Breaking electoral law renders elections and referendums undemocratic, you know. So now we have established that the Remain camp spent far more than the Leave camp in total, we have moved on to 'unsolicited emails'. The £9 million the Government spent on leafleting the entire country was unsolicited - was that spending designed to alter the result of the referendum and therefore undemocratic?
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Post by see2 on Dec 15, 2022 9:34:50 GMT
Yes. Those emails were unsolicited and the recipients didn't give consent. Therefore, they broke electoral law. Breaking electoral law renders elections and referendums undemocratic, you know. So now we have established that the Remain camp spent far more than the Leave camp in total, we have moved on to 'unsolicited emails'. The £9 million the Government spent on leafleting the entire country was unsolicited - was that spending designed to alter the result of the referendum and therefore undemocratic? There is still no way you can shake off the lying crap by the leave campaigners. Shame on you for trying, shame on the UK for allowing it.
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