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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 6, 2024 12:02:07 GMT
PMQ's about to start, how will she do? I think she'll do quite well, we'll see...
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 6, 2024 12:24:51 GMT
I think she did quite well, she asked some very awkward questions ref Lammy's criticism of Trump, questions that Starmer refused to directly answer, quelle surprise. As ever Starmer constantly repeated himself, I lost count how many times he mentioned a £22 billion black hole (A black hole that the OBR refuse to agree to). I almost expected him to remind us that his father was a toolmaker. However, as for Ms Badenoch, I think she will prove to be quite effective across the despatch box.
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Post by wapentake on Nov 6, 2024 13:14:36 GMT
I think she did quite well, she asked some very awkward questions ref Lammy's criticism of Trump, questions that Starmer refused to directly answer, quelle surprise. As ever Starmer constantly repeated himself, I lost count how many times he mentioned a £22 billion black hole (A black hole that the OBR refuse to agree to). I almost expected him to remind us that his father was a toolmaker. However, as for Ms Badenoch, I think she will prove to be quite effective across the despatch box. Yes she did and reminded them she won’t let things they’ve said and done pass without comment  |
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Post by bancroft on Nov 6, 2024 14:27:10 GMT
I saw some of it on tv and she did do well and did make it difficult for Starmer.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 6, 2024 17:08:15 GMT
I like that she said they were practicing’ student politics ‘ she has their number from day one .
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Post by om15 on Nov 6, 2024 17:40:09 GMT
I like to see her roughing up Starmer, however I still think that she simply represents the failed Conservative party and nothing will change, if she has to spend several months discovering what went wrong indicates that she should be making the tea and not be their leader.
I will continue to support and vote for Reform UK because there is no indication the Conservative Party are Tories.
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Post by bancroft on Nov 6, 2024 22:31:05 GMT
For me the Tories have to make sure they can deport foreign criminals even if they have family here, in effect no smart-ass legal barriers.
I would also like to see Rwanda used for African illegals.
God knows what we do with gay Afghans and Vietnamese, I saw Simon Reeves program on Vietnam so can understand why people would want to leave yet France used to be their colonisers not us yet we have an unregulated economy which might be why they come here.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 7, 2024 7:15:13 GMT
Personally I thought she came across as very inexperienced . Had Starmer on the ropes with a quick combination over Labours past criticism of Trump followed up with inheritance tax on Farmers then failed to land a knock out punch ,instead falling flat on her face when accusing Labour of not spending on defence nor mentioning it in the budget on which she was wrong on both counts . She was saved from any further embarrassment by the speaker who didn't call her to speak again .The smirking Rayner is the last thing I want to see at PMQ's especially as Halloween was last week
She will need to get her facts right in future , her attack dog style will then stand her in good stead .
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Post by wapentake on Nov 7, 2024 8:05:46 GMT
Personally I thought she came across as very inexperienced . Had Starmer on the ropes with a quick combination over Labours past criticism of Trump followed up with inheritance tax on Farmers then failed to land a knock out punch ,instead falling flat on her face when accusing Labour of not spending on defence nor mentioning it in the budget on which she was wrong on both counts . She was saved from any further embarrassment by the speaker who didn't call her to speak again . The smirking Rayner is the last thing I want to see at PMQ's especially as Halloween was last week She will need to get her facts right in future , her attack dog style will then stand her in good stead . I suspect things are going to get worse and Steamers start as PM has stuttered badly his engine of change might seize up if Trump decides to retaliate for his interference and wipe the grin off Rayners face. Steamer isn’t suffering dementia like Biden but he is wooden,lacks any charisma and keeps tripping up his inexperience and clouded vision may well be bad for all of us in the short term. Long term for labour I can’t see them getting back in again and if the tories don’t get their act together Reform will. |
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Post by bancroft on Nov 7, 2024 14:38:22 GMT
Starmer will try and position himself close to Europe rather than Trumps USA term, that could hurt the trade we have with individual states.
Remember Labour are ideologues so won't act in the national interest necessarily.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 8, 2024 20:22:40 GMT
I think she did quite well, she asked some very awkward questions ref Lammy's criticism of Trump, questions that Starmer refused to directly answer, quelle surprise. As ever Starmer constantly repeated himself, I lost count how many times he mentioned a £22 billion black hole (A black hole that the OBR refuse to agree to). I almost expected him to remind us that his father was a toolmaker. However, as for Ms Badenoch, I think she will prove to be quite effective across the despatch box. Did she forget to echo Starmer's comments on Remembrance Sunday? Perhaps she didn't Remembrance very well. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 12, 2024 8:49:12 GMT
The Kemi bounce doing quite well..  |
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Post by distant on Nov 17, 2024 2:54:03 GMT
I saw something different in that first exchange. BadEnoch asking Starmer to apologise to Trump for what other people said about him was wrong. You should never apologise to Trump as he will just take it as a sign of weakness and will not respect you for it.
I know BadEnoch was born in the UK but she spent a lot of time in the USA and I wonder where her loyalties lie. With that first question she seemed to be batting for the USA rather than the UK. She could turn out to be a kind of mole for Trump.
In the more recent QT BadEnoch's questions were easily batted away by Starmer. This was a surprise as Starmer is pretty useless at QT but he easily dealt with BadEnoch's questions. In fact it was like swatting an annoying fly. It must be the easiest QT Starmer has ever had. What does it say about BadEnoch when she can't even get the better of Starmer. I can't see her being around for the next election.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 17, 2024 23:54:20 GMT
I saw something different in that first exchange. BadEnoch asking Starmer to apologise to Trump for what other people said about him was wrong. You should never apologise to Trump as he will just take it as a sign of weakness and will not respect you for it.
I know BadEnoch was born in the UK but she spent a lot of time in the USA and I wonder where her loyalties lie. With that first question she seemed to be batting for the USA rather than the UK. She could turn out to be a kind of mole for Trump.
In the more recent QT BadEnoch's questions were easily batted away by Starmer. This was a surprise as Starmer is pretty useless at QT but he easily dealt with BadEnoch's questions. In fact it was like swatting an annoying fly. It must be the easiest QT Starmer has ever had. What does it say about BadEnoch when she can't even get the better of Starmer. I can't see her being around for the next election.
With the US it follows the same constitution as Rome. With Rome the plebs imagined it was the emperor in charge, but it was the military. If the emperor ever crossed the will of the military he would be killed and a new one installed.
After the CIA was created, one president tried to shut it down but couldn't. Another proof this is the way it works is in its policy. The policy of the US in taking over the states of the soviet union was long term planning going back many decades. Such policies as these are entirely consistent across many presidents.It is however made to look like the president is deciding these things. The truth is Ukraine had lost before Trump won. They had no option but to surrender, so they simply issue that order to the new president. Had Harris have won, she would have also surrendered. Like with Starmer and his taxes, it does not matter what is said in the UK, the tax would have risen irrespective of which party took office. They simply lie in their manifesto and so we never get to see what the alternative party would have done in practice.
With this in mind one can see Badenough is a person installed by this more permanent power. They are often trained for the job. She would have got to be the chosen one through her parents. Johnson was jus the same. He had no allegiances to the UK and was in fact a socialist. Johnson is not really his real name. His family changed their name so as to be more acceptable. It's the same with Badenough. That's not her real name either. As for Starmer, it is the same thing, another installed dictator, albeit this time by their agents who go by the name of Labour Friends of Israel. Farage will be another agent. He's such an arse licker over there it is rather obvious.
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