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Post by Steve on Dec 8, 2022 18:14:05 GMT
Now she has been found guilty she is open to a civil case for compensation. How much for the life of a young adult with most of his life still ahead of him? How much has she got? No that case was settled last year
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 8, 2022 18:16:40 GMT
Now she has been found guilty she is open to a civil case for compensation. How much for the life of a young adult with most of his life still ahead of him? How much has she got? No that case was settled last year Ah, how much did she have to pay?
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Post by Orac on Dec 8, 2022 18:17:59 GMT
So Mags you misrepresent taking the law into own hands for visceral reward vigilantism as self defence. It's not Self defense is about dealing with the immediate risk to your or another person. I was careful to give some reasoning. The implications of a home entry are importantly different from a chance mugging attempt on a random street corner.
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Post by Handyman on Dec 8, 2022 18:32:47 GMT
Now she has been found guilty she is open to a civil case for compensation. How much for the life of a young adult with most of his life still ahead of him? How much has she got? It may be a possibility but I think the lads parents would probably have to do it in an American Court
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Post by Steve on Dec 8, 2022 19:25:36 GMT
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Post by brexitcrusader83 on Dec 8, 2022 19:51:49 GMT
Lucky lady. 8 months suspended for 12 months No point giving a custodial while she's immune to serving it
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Post by Handyman on Dec 9, 2022 8:39:25 GMT
Lucky lady. 8 months suspended for 12 months No point giving a custodial while she's immune to serving it Even if she had come back to the UK for sentence the sentence would probably have been the same " Suspended" no time inside , once the two years have elapsed that is the end of it, Harrys parents and family are happy with the outcome they did get justice for their son which is what they have always wanted and fought for.
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Post by Steve on Dec 9, 2022 10:31:02 GMT
Yes and Sacoolas can likely never return to the UK. As someone with a criminal conviction she's persona no grata
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 9, 2022 19:13:36 GMT
Yes and Sacoolas can likely never return to the UK. As someone with a criminal conviction she's persona no grata Don't believe that's true Those with a criminal conviction who want to ensure entry on arrival just have to apply for a standard visa up to three months in advance of travel www.gov.uk/standard-visitor/apply-standard-visitor-visa
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 9, 2022 19:20:35 GMT
Yes and Sacoolas can likely never return to the UK. As someone with a criminal conviction she's persona no grata Don't believe that's true Those with a criminal conviction who want to ensure entry on arrival just have to apply for a standard visa up to three months in advance of travel www.gov.uk/standard-visitor/apply-standard-visitor-visaProbably won't get a hire car though.
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Post by Steve on Dec 9, 2022 20:08:48 GMT
Yes and Sacoolas can likely never return to the UK. As someone with a criminal conviction she's persona no grata Don't believe that's true Those with a criminal conviction who want to ensure entry on arrival just have to apply for a standard visa up to three months in advance of travel www.gov.uk/standard-visitor/apply-standard-visitor-visayes can apply but best she doesn't bet on it being granted
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 9, 2022 21:05:06 GMT
The whole thing was a farce. From start to finish it was a farce. Behind the scenes the State Department and Foreign office knew damned well Sacoolas would never face justice let alone justice in a British court, and anyone who thought she would was dreaming. The Yanks do not give up there own, but I think we all know if a British national had killed a Yank in the US, then falsely claimed to have diplomatic immunity and fled back to the UK, it wouldn't be long before that person was sitting in chains in a US courtroom.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 9, 2022 22:28:03 GMT
The Yanks do not give up there own, but I think we all know if a British national had killed a Yank in the US, then falsely claimed to have diplomatic immunity and fled back to the UK, it wouldn't be long before that person was sitting in chains in a US courtroom. Which is due to the ridiculously one-sided extradition treaty agreed by Blair.
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Post by patman post on Dec 10, 2022 13:55:22 GMT
Wasn't it good to see some erring UK bankers extradited to the US and jailed and fined, though? David Bermingham, Giles Darby and Gary Mulgrew worked with two US-based former Enron executives to devise and executed a scheme to defraud NatWest and GNW (Greenwich NatWest) and deprive them of money and their right to honest services. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5174358.stm Rge three were sentenced to 37 months of imprisonment, and were also required to repay $7.3 million to Royal Bank of Scotland, the successor bank to Greenwich NatWest. Shame British authorities seem loathe to act against big financial fraudsters in similar cases...
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Post by Toreador on Dec 10, 2022 14:11:02 GMT
Wasn't it good to see some erring UK bankers extradited to the US and jailed and fined, though? David Bermingham, Giles Darby and Gary Mulgrew worked with two US-based former Enron executives to devise and executed a scheme to defraud NatWest and GNW (Greenwich NatWest) and deprive them of money and their right to honest services. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5174358.stm Rge three were sentenced to 37 months of imprisonment, and were also required to repay $7.3 million to Royal Bank of Scotland, the successor bank to Greenwich NatWest. Shame British authorities seem loathe to act against big financial fraudsters in similar cases...Possibly as they don't like the publicity and criticism of government agencies who should be investigating and controlling fraud, especially where the fraudsters may also be party funders.
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