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Post by borgr0 on Oct 28, 2024 12:09:19 GMT
Link (GB News)They mean well and do good journalism, but I've read GB News are actually funded in large part by Legatum, who are actually given donations by Bill Gates which makes me question what's going on here, Legatum are pro-Brexit but Bill Gates is decidedly pro-Kamala Harris/Democrat/anti-Brexit etc. I found that out from Bill Gates' own websites, not via any conspiracy sites.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 28, 2024 21:01:40 GMT
I think you're reading too much into it (link would be nice?). Bill Gates built an empire on proprietary software so would want to keep the non-Commies sweet. It's what he does and why you rarely hear a bad word spoken about him anywhere in the mainstream.
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 28, 2024 22:38:10 GMT
If you mean a link to the quoted article, it's hyperlinked if you click on 'Link (GB News)' If you mean a link to the Legatum institute thing - here is just one of many donations the foundation made: link And you make a compelling point, they often donate to all politicians and causes they can to exert maximum influence, so that, as you say, no one speaks badly about them in the mainstream (not that I am condemning Gates)
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 28, 2024 23:22:21 GMT
They mean well and do good journalism, but I've read GB News are actually funded in large part by Legatum, who are actually given donations by Bill Gates which makes me question what's going on here, Legatum are pro-Brexit but Bill Gates is decidedly pro-Kamala Harris/Democrat/anti-Brexit etc. I found that out from Bill Gates' own websites, not via any conspiracy sites. I'll let you into the worst kept secret in the country, that ^ doesn't matter. People who vote Reform UK are sick to death of being lied to about immigration. For more than 20 years Labour and Tory governments have promised to cut immigration, yet it continues to go up. Believe me we are not a 'multicultural' society, as a result of mass immigration we are an increasingly divided society. You could provide evidence that Reform UK were funded by Beelzebub himself and it would make not a jot of difference because people are sick of being lied to. I'm sure lefties will continue to laugh at and smear Reform UK, but I seem to remember that for years people laughed at UKIP, and as Farage famously said, they aint laughing now.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 28, 2024 23:34:26 GMT
Huge boost to Nigel Farage as Reform UK secures council group after triple defection..... In a win for Nigel Farage, three independent district councillors in Nottinghamshire have defected to Reform UK. Mick Barton, Barry Answer, and Martin Wright, members of Mansfield District Council since May 2023, are to make up the new Reform UK group in the local authority. This comes after Mr Farage urged Conservative councillors to leave the Tories and join his party.....
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 28, 2024 23:49:46 GMT
They mean well and do good journalism, but I've read GB News are actually funded in large part by Legatum, who are actually given donations by Bill Gates which makes me question what's going on here, Legatum are pro-Brexit but Bill Gates is decidedly pro-Kamala Harris/Democrat/anti-Brexit etc. I found that out from Bill Gates' own websites, not via any conspiracy sites. I'll let you into the worst kept secret in the country, that ^ doesn't matter. People who vote Reform UK are sick to death of being lied to about immigration. For more than 20 years Labour and Tory governments have promised to cut immigration, yet it continues to go up. Believe me we are not a 'multicultural' society, as a result of mass immigration we are an increasingly divided society. You could provide evidence that Reform UK were funded by Beelzebub himself and it would make not a jot of difference because people are sick of being lied to. I'm sure lefties will continue to laugh at and smear Reform UK, but I seem to remember that for years people laughed at UKIP, and as Farage famously said, they aint laughing now. No GB News are the ones funded by Legatum, funded by Gates My question is that may be in part why they are running negative stories against Reform UK I apologise if my OP wasn't clear enough on that, but Rebirth has offered a pretty good explanation that passes muster, and I think he's right
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 29, 2024 0:15:14 GMT
No GB News are the ones funded by Legatum, funded by Gates My question is that may be in part why they are running negative stories against Reform UK I apologise if my OP wasn't clear enough on that, but Rebirth has offered a pretty good explanation that passes muster, and I think he's right I'm aware who funds GB News, as is anyone who has access to google. I watch GB news a lot and they have to be absolutely unequivocally unbiased, they constantly fact check guests and always have someone with an opposing opinion. The reason GB News are so self censoring is because the left wing media including the BBC of course, hate GB News and GB News know they cant put a foot wrong because everyone is waiting to pounce. Can you imagine what the BBC and left wing press would make of a Jimmy Savile scandal at GB News, or any of the scandals that seem to be routine at the BBC. My god, Ofcom would go into meltdown, there would be questions in the house, GB news would without a doubt be closed down. Compared to the BBC, GB News is a paragon of unbiased virtue and long may it last.
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 29, 2024 0:23:51 GMT
Link (GB News)They mean well and do good journalism, but I've read GB News are actually funded in large part by Legatum, who are actually given donations by Bill Gates which makes me question what's going on here, Legatum are pro-Brexit but Bill Gates is decidedly pro-Kamala Harris/Democrat/anti-Brexit etc. I found that out from Bill Gates' own websites, not via any conspiracy sites. I think you're misunderstanding what's going on You do understand that unlike any other political party, Reform / The Brexit Party were set up as a shell run by a limited company, a company I believe was originally supposed to be limited by Guarantee and have no shares, but in the end was a normal 'close' limited company with articles of association and shares As a limited company Farage as one of the directors and a co director appointed to the position of Brexit Party National Nominating Officer had absolute control of who.was allowed to stand as a candidate. Funding was allowed from 'supporters' whose donations went straight to the ltdco The party had no members in the way others had. The public had no way to contribute to the party other than by their wallets. This was a direct result of the amazing collection of nutters that stood for UKIP and the disaster that Hamilton wrought on the party. The party realised that in order to take on its target competition it had to.become a mainstream party in the same way ithers are, with memberships, and local constituency organisations. This is the point of the aim to 'professionalise' the party, changing it from its original power structure, and for GB News to report on that is no bad thing. It is a case of out with the controlling close company and in with something far more democratic, but without letting the swivel eyed loons who caused UKIP to get less than half the votes of the BNP in 2009's Euro Elections get back un tbe driving sest
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 29, 2024 4:57:17 GMT
Link (GB News)They mean well and do good journalism, but I've read GB News are actually funded in large part by Legatum, who are actually given donations by Bill Gates which makes me question what's going on here, Legatum are pro-Brexit but Bill Gates is decidedly pro-Kamala Harris/Democrat/anti-Brexit etc. I found that out from Bill Gates' own websites, not via any conspiracy sites. I think you're misunderstanding what's going on You do understand that unlike any other political party, Reform / The Brexit Party were set up as a shell run by a limited company, a company I believe was originally supposed to be limited by Guarantee and have no shares, but in the end was a normal 'close' limited company with articles of association and shares As a limited company Farage as one of the directors and a co director appointed to the position of Brexit Party National Nominating Officer had absolute control of who.was allowed to stand as a candidate. Funding was allowed from 'supporters' whose donations went straight to the ltdco The party had no members in the way others had. The public had no way to contribute to the party other than by their wallets. This was a direct result of the amazing collection of nutters that stood for UKIP and the disaster that Hamilton wrought on the party. The party realised that in order to take on its target competition it had to.become a mainstream party in the same way ithers are, with memberships, and local constituency organisations. This is the point of the aim to 'professionalise' the party, changing it from its original power structure, and for GB News to report on that is no bad thing. It is a case of out with the controlling close company and in with something far more democratic, but without letting the swivel eyed loons who caused UKIP to get less than half the votes of the BNP in 2009's Euro Elections get back un tbe driving sest Nope I'm too stupid to understand anything that's going on, that's probabl explains a lot about my posts The 'swivel eyed loons' referred to seem to me to be patriots who I won't condemn, if they gave UKIP the vote I won't condemn them I would agree that GB News reporting on this is no bad thing, but I've seen other stories run by them that make me question whether this story is intended negatively or positively, given they emphasise the 'departure of party bigwigs' to quote part of the article For example, they reported on the furore with Ben Habib attacking the party: www.gbnews.com/politics/reform-uk-ben-habib-democratisation-incomplete‘Ill-thought!’ Habib slams ‘incomplete’ Reform democratisation after attending local event but MISSES conferenceTo report on the civil war in Reform UK appears to be undermining it in a way, but again, maybe I am completely mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time and they ran many other stories like that too
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 29, 2024 5:07:39 GMT
No GB News are the ones funded by Legatum, funded by Gates My question is that may be in part why they are running negative stories against Reform UK I apologise if my OP wasn't clear enough on that, but Rebirth has offered a pretty good explanation that passes muster, and I think he's right I'm aware who funds GB News, as is anyone who has access to google. I watch GB news a lot and they have to be absolutely unequivocally unbiased, they constantly fact check guests and always have someone with an opposing opinion. The reason GB News are so self censoring is because the left wing media including the BBC of course, hate GB News and GB News know they cant put a foot wrong because everyone is waiting to pounce. Can you imagine what the BBC and left wing press would make of a Jimmy Savile scandal at GB News, or any of the scandals that seem to be routine at the BBC. My god, Ofcom would go into meltdown, there would be questions in the house, GB news would without a doubt be closed down. Compared to the BBC, GB News is a paragon of unbiased virtue and long may it last. There's nothing wrong with being non-impartial, no one on the planet is completely impartial. The FOX News channel we have over here is completely partial as are CNN etc, all channels are partial in the UK also. That is normal. I don't know what's on Google and who funds who so I am completely ignorant of that and everything else. For me it reduced my ignorance. GB News launched a lawsuit against Ofcom recently to see whether they can stay on the air or not. The chairman of Ofcom, Michael Grade, Con peer [moved to crossbench], publicly supported Laurence Fox on QT and appears to at least nominally believe in freedom of speech uk.news.yahoo.com/ofcom-chairman-critic-woke-warriors-180522854.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACcv1Y5HuX_uPUiO1CMpAEVYneLIDsxt5NoemTiovxAYczlFixDx1C3TWz1UUw-Zau8XyN7AySi57lw4_vvGinse6SvmcfMUB0yZIfl-ChSqUWM2J6bf0LB-TM_qnqHtbwRkFgITjRyd_fhHoWK-wL5PjuD-Cmleur8oLAK6At-vRelated: www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/24/michael-grades-ofcom-appointment-seals-long-career-in-broadcastingen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Grade#ITV
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 29, 2024 11:11:40 GMT
I think you're misunderstanding what's going on You do understand that unlike any other political party, Reform / The Brexit Party were set up as a shell run by a limited company, a company I believe was originally supposed to be limited by Guarantee and have no shares, but in the end was a normal 'close' limited company with articles of association and shares As a limited company Farage as one of the directors and a co director appointed to the position of Brexit Party National Nominating Officer had absolute control of who.was allowed to stand as a candidate. Funding was allowed from 'supporters' whose donations went straight to the ltdco The party had no members in the way others had. The public had no way to contribute to the party other than by their wallets. This was a direct result of the amazing collection of nutters that stood for UKIP and the disaster that Hamilton wrought on the party. The party realised that in order to take on its target competition it had to.become a mainstream party in the same way ithers are, with memberships, and local constituency organisations. This is the point of the aim to 'professionalise' the party, changing it from its original power structure, and for GB News to report on that is no bad thing. It is a case of out with the controlling close company and in with something far more democratic, but without letting the swivel eyed loons who caused UKIP to get less than half the votes of the BNP in 2009's Euro Elections get back un tbe driving sest Nope I'm too stupid to understand anything that's going on, that's probabl explains a lot about my posts The 'swivel eyed loons' referred to seem to me to be patriots who I won't condemn, if they gave UKIP the vote I won't condemn them I would agree that GB News reporting on this is no bad thing, but I've seen other stories run by them that make me question whether this story is intended negatively or positively, given they emphasise the 'departure of party bigwigs' to quote part of the article For example, they reported on the furore with Ben Habib attacking the party: www.gbnews.com/politics/reform-uk-ben-habib-democratisation-incomplete‘Ill-thought!’ Habib slams ‘incomplete’ Reform democratisation after attending local event but MISSES conferenceTo report on the civil war in Reform UK appears to be undermining it in a way, but again, maybe I am completely mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time and they ran many other stories like that too Ok let's try again Were you actually aware of Nigel's structuring of The Brexit Party which he renamed Reform UK, as a wholly controlled entity under the ownership of a close company listed at Companies House, whose shares were unavailable to members of the public, and whose political dealings were controlled entirely by one man using the power of the office of National Nominating Officer as defined in PPERA 2000 ?? If you were, I find your stance that GB News are attacking the party for moving to a conventional political party setup confusing. That's about it
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 29, 2024 12:00:51 GMT
Yes, I've been aware of it for some time now
As said, it's the fact they are emphasising the departure of party bigwigs that looks like they are passively aggressively taking a jab at the party
But like I said, I may well be mistaken, but I gave you another link that shows Ben Habib attacking the party being reported on by GB News too - and there are many others like that
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