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Post by Rebirth on Nov 21, 2024 10:56:58 GMT
After a dozen or so commercial airline disasters caused by collisions with flying cars, the pencil pushers in Whitehall are bound to restrict things down a bit You need computers that don't make mistakes, then your accident rate should be zero. You see air is such a predictable thing. Roads are not. Roads have all sorts of nasty surprises on them, like even kids running out. No one will run out in the way of an EV 1km in the air. Each EV knows where all the other EVs are every microsecond. You completely eliminate human error. Computers don't make mistakes. If they do then the machine is poorly configured, faulty or overheating. Even the cheapest of components will work perfectly so long as they've been carefully picked to work together. where are you proposing to get these computers from? - just out of interest.. China. Their code seems pretty robust to me. Places not to go would be India, Britain and the US. I'm talking from personal experience here. It comes down to the engineers who design the solution. How do you make this comparison? America has the best software engineering universities in the world. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 21, 2024 10:58:27 GMT
where are you proposing to get these computers from? - just out of interest.. Horizon. Sorry couldn't resist. Ah yes - ICL, one of the 'success' stories from the Wilson Governments experiment with picking winners.. and here we are half a century later and another Labour Government is proposing the same old policies.. nothing changes..  |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 21, 2024 11:01:11 GMT
and yet the Chinese still prefer US software and computer systems.. I don't think they do. they are rebuilding the whole ecosystem of software from the software used to design the chips all the way through with new operating systems as well. There are several reasons for this. You may find specific examples where they use US software, but generally the move is away from it and into their own creations. Take a look at Harmony OS or Hóngméng in Chinese. We are talking about aviation - Chinese Aircraft are reliant on US software, they refuse to use Chinese systems. Harmony OS might be great in a home PC but in safety critical systems... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 21, 2024 11:45:05 GMT
You need computers that don't make mistakes, then your accident rate should be zero. You see air is such a predictable thing. Roads are not. Roads have all sorts of nasty surprises on them, like even kids running out. No one will run out in the way of an EV 1km in the air. Each EV knows where all the other EVs are every microsecond. You completely eliminate human error. Computers don't make mistakes. If they do then the machine is poorly configured, faulty or overheating. Even the cheapest of components will work perfectly so long as they've been carefully picked to work together. China. Their code seems pretty robust to me. Places not to go would be India, Britain and the US. I'm talking from personal experience here. It comes down to the engineers who design the solution. How do you make this comparison? America has the best software engineering universities in the world. Computers can fail from defects in the chip. They can fail if the power line has glitches on it and ditto with IO lines. The most common failure though is software, but theoretically it is possible to write the software so it is 100%. For hardware failure you have a failover system so that could make it so improbable that in practice it would appear perfect.
If you look at the Chinese education system it is very strong in STEM subjects and it is far more competitive than the US. Have you noticed how many Chinese wear glasses? That's through long study hours. The nation's maths skills are very good. I know this for fact as I chat to then and they understand technical stuff. The Brits on the whole come across as absolute morons. One error I picked up today on a video was measuring light intensity of an undersea fibre optic cable transmitter in volts. Our country is a joke now. Our education has been totally woked out.
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Post by besoeker3 on Nov 21, 2024 13:00:45 GMT
Computers don't make mistakes. If they do then the machine is poorly configured, faulty or overheating. Even the cheapest of components will work perfectly so long as they've been carefully picked to work together. It comes down to the engineers who design the solution. How do you make this comparison? America has the best software engineering universities in the world.
If you look at the Chinese education system
How about you look at regular Chinese system ? Just actually go there. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Nov 21, 2024 13:07:34 GMT
Really? My three children all have excellent degrees. The second one is on her masters . What about yours? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 21, 2024 13:42:49 GMT
Where did I say claim any range for any modern EV? Your second sentence was addressed already by “The problem is when one wants to go beyond the EVs range” You had nothing to say but you said it anyway 😁 You said. "If you only drive 50 miles a week then range of 100 miles is fine" Your example is flawed because it uses unreal numbers to imply there is a reasonable failure point. I counter with "If you only drive 150 miles a day then 250 miles is fine. " "If you drive the average 18 miles a day 250 miles is fine" "If you only drive 300 miles twice a year 250 miles if fine" It wasn’t flawed . I never stated any vehicle. I merely used a low range figure to match a low mileage need. Your problem is that you can’t refute it so you construct a false flaw to discredit it. My point stands . You are unable to refute it . Edit ..well well well . Looks like zany was talking out of his arse The Citroën Ami electric vehicle has a range of up to 46 miles on a full charge NEW CITROËN AMI 100% ËLECTRIC It’s official! AMI is coming to the UK! We asked you if you wanted AMI and the answer was a resounding ‘Yes!’. With a fully electric WLTP range of up to 45 miles and a top speed of 28 mph, AMI is made for our cities. And you can reserve yours today! So there ARE low range EV Auto express agreements with me too. Maybe Zany needs a word with them www.autoexpress.co.uk/opinion/365048/ps10k-electric-car-100-mile-range-would-surely-be-sales-successlol. |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 21, 2024 14:10:59 GMT
Computers don't make mistakes. If they do then the machine is poorly configured, faulty or overheating. Even the cheapest of components will work perfectly so long as they've been carefully picked to work together. It comes down to the engineers who design the solution. How do you make this comparison? America has the best software engineering universities in the world. Computers can fail from defects in the chip. They can fail if the power line has glitches on it and ditto with IO lines. The most common failure though is software, but theoretically it is possible to write the software so it is 100%. For hardware failure you have a failover system so that could make it so improbable that in practice it would appear perfect.
If you look at the Chinese education system it is very strong in STEM subjects and it is far more competitive than the US. Have you noticed how many Chinese wear glasses? That's through long study hours. The nation's maths skills are very good. I know this for fact as I chat to then and they understand technical stuff. The Brits on the whole come across as absolute morons. One error I picked up today on a video was measuring light intensity of an undersea fibre optic cable transmitter in volts. Our country is a joke now. Our education has been totally woked out.
You were talking about mistakes, which computers don't make so long as they're not defective. The best software engineering university in the world outside of the USA is in the UK. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 21, 2024 16:50:18 GMT
Computers can fail from defects in the chip. They can fail if the power line has glitches on it and ditto with IO lines. The most common failure though is software, but theoretically it is possible to write the software so it is 100%. For hardware failure you have a failover system so that could make it so improbable that in practice it would appear perfect.
If you look at the Chinese education system it is very strong in STEM subjects and it is far more competitive than the US. Have you noticed how many Chinese wear glasses? That's through long study hours. The nation's maths skills are very good. I know this for fact as I chat to then and they understand technical stuff. The Brits on the whole come across as absolute morons. One error I picked up today on a video was measuring light intensity of an undersea fibre optic cable transmitter in volts. Our country is a joke now. Our education has been totally woked out.
You were talking about mistakes, which computers don't make so long as they're not defective. The best software engineering university in the world outside of the USA is in the UK. How are you rating them? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 21, 2024 16:58:57 GMT
If you look at the Chinese education system
How about you look at regular Chinese system ? Just actually go there. You just repeat yourself all the time and yet you give me all this bullshit about how expertly qualified you are all the time as well. It simply does not add up. The way to impress me is to join in with pertinent technical points that add to the debate. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Nov 21, 2024 17:51:36 GMT
How about you look at regular Chinese system ? Just actually go there. You just repeat yourself all the time and yet you give me all this bullshit about how expertly qualified you are all the time as well. It simply does not add up. The way to impress me is to join in with pertinent technical points that add to the debate. bullshit? Clearly, you have no clue about the expertise I have fulfilled. I have travelled the world design systems including China.  imgur.com/UCaIXQN How about your expertise ? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 22, 2024 9:47:36 GMT
You just repeat yourself all the time and yet you give me all this bullshit about how expertly qualified you are all the time as well. It simply does not add up. The way to impress me is to join in with pertinent technical points that add to the debate. bullshit? Clearly, you have no clue about the expertise I have fulfilled. I have travelled the world design systems including China. imgur.com/UCaIXQN How about your expertise ? You are full of shit. You can't even hold a civil conversation about the subject you profess to know so much about. Instead you post the same picture as you had done many times. It's just irrelevant and you are just a stupid troll. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Nov 22, 2024 11:06:58 GMT
My bullshit? Clearly, you have no clue about the expertise I have fulfilled. I have travelled the world design systems including China. imgur.com/UCaIXQN How about your expertise ? You are full of shit. You can't even hold a civil conversation about the subject you profess to know so much about. Instead you post the same picture as you had done many times. It's just irrelevant and you are just a stupid troll. You really don't have a clue. When are you ever going to China to see what it's really like? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 22, 2024 11:33:56 GMT
You are full of shit. You can't even hold a civil conversation about the subject you profess to know so much about. Instead you post the same picture as you had done many times. It's just irrelevant and you are just a stupid troll. You really don't have a clue. You are trolling, plain and simple. What is so difficult to understand about that? You post a load of irrelevant crap and go for a personal attack like you always do. What you have not come here for is any interest in the subject under discussion. You are what you do. If you were an expert you would have spent your time studying it, not dicking about. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 22, 2024 11:47:11 GMT
I don't think they do. they are rebuilding the whole ecosystem of software from the software used to design the chips all the way through with new operating systems as well. There are several reasons for this. You may find specific examples where they use US software, but generally the move is away from it and into their own creations. Take a look at Harmony OS or Hóngméng in Chinese. We are talking about aviation - Chinese Aircraft are reliant on US software, they refuse to use Chinese systems. Harmony OS might be great in a home PC but in safety critical systems... Harmony OS is interesting because it has a microkernel architecture so it can run on any computer and abstract the operation of it. It started off with a lot of Linux code in it, but they are rewriting it so it is all new code. The idea is one size fits all. I think the reliability of such software comes down to the user base. A large user base will give the system a much more rigorous testing than some specialist top secret code. So perhaps it is not such a stupid thing. They write the code and then one can swap in and out different computers and know the thing will work identically in all cases.
Way back in the past one would never wish to run a critical system in Windows, as the OS had a mind of its own and could serve up some nasty surprises, but we live in a different age now. |
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