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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 21, 2024 9:08:53 GMT
For Northern Ireland at least, per andrewbrown.
But is that true? And why? And what about the rest of the UK?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 21, 2024 9:15:01 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 21, 2024 9:18:14 GMT
I'd think a more plausible claim would be that it is the Belfast Agreement (aka Blair's Treason) itself which has been a disaster for Northern Ireland.
And of course the Human Rights Act which followed it implemented the incorporation of the ECvHR into NI law.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 21, 2024 9:28:03 GMT
The Belfast Agreement was from the start a shoddy surrender to the IRA cop out which did not require disarmament.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 21, 2024 9:40:38 GMT
I'd think a more plausible claim would be that it is the Belfast Agreement (aka Blair's Treason) itself which has been a disaster for Northern Ireland. And of course the Human Rights Act which followed it implemented the incorporation of the ECvHR into NI law. Well they will have to change it then. They managed OK in the past before the fereakin' ECHR religion took hold thanks to Uncle Sam. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 21, 2024 10:08:48 GMT
I'd still be interested to hear an argument why leaving the ECvHR would be problematic for the UK or any part of it, especially since it was never designed with the interests of the UK population in mind anyway. At the time of its creation the general consensus on the part of its (British) principal architects was that rights in the UK were adequately protected by existing legislation. I don't think much has changed in that regard since the mid-50s when the Convention was reluctantly ratified for 'representational' reasons.
When presenting an argument, let's take as read the usual one that leaving will tarnish the UK's international reputation as a champion of human rights and put it in the 'don't care' category.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 22, 2024 14:44:29 GMT
Given the complete absence of argumentation to the contrary, it seems clear that leaving the ECVHR - and thus the jurisdiction of the ECtHR - would not be a disaster for the UK or any of its constituent parts.
Case closed.
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