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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 7, 2022 23:51:30 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/07/strep-kills-children-covid-did-first-year/Strep A kills more children than Covid did in its first year
As early as 2020, experts warned that limiting contact, shutting schools and insisting on masks would prevent children from encountering bugs that would prime their immune systems, leaving them more vulnerable to infections.Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, said: “At some point the immune deficit brought about by lockdowns has to be repaid.“In terms of the high levels of Group A Strep infections there have been notable increases in cases in the past, however what is different this time is the high levels of viral co-circulation in the community, and the high number of deaths in children.”
Its been revealed that the lockdown caused more premature deaths then it saved now its being revealed that juveniles are dying of infections because the immune systems are ineffective.
Im sure no one things the lockdown wasnt needed but know were seeing the cost on economy and health.
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 8, 2022 14:11:44 GMT
Are you on drugs? Plenty of people predicted exactly what the lockdowns would do to the economy and to our immune systems.
All you virtue signaling pricks forced "save granny" lockdowns and now completely deny any responsibility. The Ginger Growler wanted tighter and longer lockdowns and now you want her as PM lololol.
Only the vulnerable should have been shielded, locking down the entire population was madness!!
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Post by Orac on Dec 8, 2022 14:20:37 GMT
If you cautioned or doubted, you were accused of being a granny killer. This is still happening in the conversation now.
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Post by Steve on Dec 8, 2022 14:21:23 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/07/strep-kills-children-covid-did-first-year/Strep A kills more children than Covid did in its first year
As early as 2020, experts warned that limiting contact, shutting schools and insisting on masks would prevent children from encountering bugs that would prime their immune systems, leaving them more vulnerable to infections.Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, said: “At some point the immune deficit brought about by lockdowns has to be repaid.“In terms of the high levels of Group A Strep infections there have been notable increases in cases in the past, however what is different this time is the high levels of viral co-circulation in the community, and the high number of deaths in children.”
Its been revealed that the lockdown caused more premature deaths then it saved now its being revealed that juveniles are dying of infections because the immune systems are ineffective.
Im sure no one things the lockdown wasnt needed but know were seeing the cost on economy and health.
There's no ral evidence to support this DT swivel eyed theory Strep deaths in children occur every winter and we are not seeing a massive difference. But 61 children have died of Covid in the last 2 years. www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1470/new_age/datadownload.xlsx
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 8, 2022 16:24:58 GMT
Only the vulnerable should have been shielded, locking down the entire population was madness!! Are you looking forward to the public enquiry coming to the same conclusion?
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Post by Steve on Dec 8, 2022 16:55:19 GMT
. . .Only the vulnerable should have been shielded, locking down the entire population was madness!! No because it wasn't just the vulnerable loading the NHS up and without lockdown(s) the loading would have reached hundreds of thousands, the NHS would have collapsed and the societal impacts of that and the consequent mob actions would have imperilled the whole country. And cost far far more
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 9, 2022 14:53:54 GMT
. . .Only the vulnerable should have been shielded, locking down the entire population was madness!! No because it wasn't just the vulnerable loading the NHS up and without lockdown(s) the loading would have reached hundreds of thousands, the NHS would have collapsed and the societal impacts of that and the consequent mob actions would have imperilled the whole country. And cost far far more It is very arrogant to claim "cost far far more" with such certainty while ignoring the massive problems the lockdowns caused. The NHS has collapsed anyway, we now have a backlog so big the entire system is fucked. Plus we have wrecked the economy, have sky high inflation, increased interest rates and have loaded ourselves with an unpayable debt.
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 9, 2022 14:55:22 GMT
Only the vulnerable should have been shielded, locking down the entire population was madness!! Are you looking forward to the public enquiry coming to the same conclusion? Not a chance, they will fob off all the problems as 12 years of Tory government. The virtue signalers are not going to look in the mirror and take responsibility, they never do.
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 9, 2022 15:04:02 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/07/strep-kills-children-covid-did-first-year/Strep A kills more children than Covid did in its first year
As early as 2020, experts warned that limiting contact, shutting schools and insisting on masks would prevent children from encountering bugs that would prime their immune systems, leaving them more vulnerable to infections.Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, said: “At some point the immune deficit brought about by lockdowns has to be repaid.“In terms of the high levels of Group A Strep infections there have been notable increases in cases in the past, however what is different this time is the high levels of viral co-circulation in the community, and the high number of deaths in children.”
Its been revealed that the lockdown caused more premature deaths then it saved now its being revealed that juveniles are dying of infections because the immune systems are ineffective.
Im sure no one things the lockdown wasnt needed but know were seeing the cost on economy and health.
There's no ral evidence to support this DT swivel eyed theory Strep deaths in children occur every winter and we are not seeing a massive difference. But 61 children have died of Covid in the last 2 years. www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1470/new_age/datadownload.xlsxActually, "Immunity debt" is a widely accepted concept. "Their observations confirm the concept of immunity debt as an unintended consequence of non-pharmaceutical interventions. Estimating the magnitude of these changes is essential for public health decision makers" - the Lancet www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00544-8/fulltextwww.newscientist.com/article/2348968-do-we-have-immunity-debt-and-how-could-it-affect-our-infection-risk/
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Post by Steve on Dec 9, 2022 20:53:59 GMT
Nah What's happened is there was less mixing for a couple of years so that reduced Strep A cross infections then from the level that would otherwise have pertained and inevitably that does give some level of immunity debt. The biggest debt is the brain cell debt in those that fall for these anti vax conspiracy theories
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 13, 2022 0:11:14 GMT
I can't give the link but I saw a Chinese report on the effects of the original Wuhan virus that claimed that a year later over 50% of people who caught the virus still had significant lung damage and other issues ... this maybe explains why they went for a zero covid policy? There is also the fact that throughout the world around 30% of people who were hospitalised with the virus had damage to their kidneys. When one's kidneys are not fully functional this can lead to whole host of debilitating health problems that are diffcult to deal with.
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Post by dodgydave on Dec 13, 2022 0:25:47 GMT
Nah What's happened is there was less mixing for a couple of years so that reduced Strep A cross infections then from the level that would otherwise have pertained and inevitably that does give some level of immunity debt. The biggest debt is the brain cell debt in those that fall for these anti vax conspiracy theories Huh? An accepted fact about the lockdown is an anti-vax conspiracy theory???
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Post by Steve on Dec 13, 2022 13:04:48 GMT
I suggest you read the thread again and that utter BS of 'Its been revealed that the lockdown caused more premature deaths then it saved now its being revealed that juveniles are dying of infections because the immune systems are ineffective. '
That's the sort of dangerous rubbish I was referring to
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