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Post by thomas on Nov 11, 2024 9:59:17 GMT
The solution is fucking easy zany keep the fucking freeloaders out and get shot of the ones that are already here. That quantity of free loaders only exist in your empty head, though I suspect there's plenty of living space available there. when jonsky is talking about freeloaders , I suspect he is talking about things like the centre for policy studies report that found 89% of the 1.34 million increase in housing shortage in your country england is down to increased immigration , or that various reports , from Oxford economics to the OBR among many others found that non EEA migrants were negative net fiscal contributors to the uk economy ,in other words a drain , who typically went into low skilled low paid jobs , brought their families with them , and therefore needed higher government spending on education , family benefits and tax credit type handouts. Thats before we even take into account hotel costs for asylum seekers. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 11, 2024 10:07:57 GMT
That quantity of free loaders only exist in your empty head, though I suspect there's plenty of living space available there. when jonsky is talking about freeloaders , I suspect he is talking about things like the centre for policy studies report that found 89% of the 1.34 million increase in housing shortage in your country england is down to increased immigration , or that various reports , from Oxford economics to the OBR among many others found that non EEA migrants were negative net fiscal contributors to the uk economy ,in other words a drain , who typically went into low skilled low paid jobs , brought their families with them , and therefore needed higher government spending on education , family benefits and tax credit type handouts. Thats before we even take into account hotel costs for asylum seekers. The only contributions immigration has made is the mountains of debt. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:14:30 GMT
That quantity of free loaders only exist in your empty head, though I suspect there's plenty of living space available there. BOLLOCKS...So why are we the tax payers expected to pay over 8 million quid a day to house the wankers in hotels? Its a tiny amount Jonsky, and while its fucking annoying, it wouldn't change the economy a jot. Its 0.001% of GDP. That's why that number doesn't help. What should we do with them, Deport them, to where? Throw them in the sea? Prison camps, is my idea, though I see no reason to add the unnecessarily cruel aspects that answered that suggestion, such as workhouse condition, areas with terrible climates, no health of education etc. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 11, 2024 10:16:34 GMT
And that number is fixed is it. 200,000 is it, can't be increased. I didn't know that. Who'd have thought it. Can you let the government know about this fixed number, only they are planning to build 300,000 a year by freeing up grey land. If it takes 10,000 plumbers to aid the building of 200,000 houses then to build 300,000 you need 15,000 plumbers. Currently, as usual, there is a shortage of trained plumbers so where do they come from. Then you have to consider even if they are trained are they competent. He wants you to embrace FoM with the EU and have all the Poles back and anyone else with a trade. That's what he wants. He believes land in England is infinite along with its services to cope with this constant boom in immigration. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:19:11 GMT
That quantity of free loaders only exist in your empty head, though I suspect there's plenty of living space available there. when jonsky is talking about freeloaders , I suspect he is talking about things like the centre for policy studies report that found 89% of the 1.34 million increase in housing shortage in your country england is down to increased immigration , or that various reports , from Oxford economics to the OBR among many others found that non EEA migrants were negative net fiscal contributors to the uk economy ,in other words a drain , who typically went into low skilled low paid jobs , brought their families with them , and therefore needed higher government spending on education , family benefits and tax credit type handouts. Thats before we even take into account hotel costs for asylum seekers. Why don't you ask him instead of me. Its seems incredibly likely that increased immigration has caused the housing shortage, indeed Its hard to imaging how it wouldn't. Yet you point it out like some revelation. How that would make them freeloaders you need to ask Jonksy. So far he has referred only to illegal migrants, not the ones we offered jobs here. Would be glad to see a link to your figures. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:20:43 GMT
If it takes 10,000 plumbers to aid the building of 200,000 houses then to build 300,000 you need 15,000 plumbers. Currently, as usual, there is a shortage of trained plumbers so where do they come from. Then you have to consider even if they are trained are they competent. He wants you to embrace FoM with the EU and have all the Poles back and anyone else with a trade. That's what he wants. He believes land in England is infinite along with its services to cope with this constant boom in immigration. I'll let you know when I need a spokes person. In the meantime stick to giving your opinion instead of mine. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 11, 2024 10:21:05 GMT
BOLLOCKS...So why are we the tax payers expected to pay over 8 million quid a day to house the wankers in hotels? , and while its fucking annoying, it wouldn't change the economy a jot. Its 0.001% of GDP. That's why that number doesn't help. What should we do with them, Deport them, to where? Throw them in the sea? Prison camps, is my idea, though I see no reason to add the unnecessarily cruel aspects that answered that suggestion, such as workhouse condition, areas with terrible climates, no health of education etc. How many of our OWN homeless would it home FFS? We have our miitary veterans reduced to sleeping and living in shop doorways whilst these freeloading parasites are put up in hotels FFS. Give the wankers a 6 foot square of tarpoulin and a bail of straw and stick them behind barbed wire up on Dartmore. I bet the wankers wouldn't turn up each day if they knew that was the reality of their actions.. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:22:26 GMT
when jonsky is talking about freeloaders , I suspect he is talking about things like the centre for policy studies report that found 89% of the 1.34 million increase in housing shortage in your country england is down to increased immigration , or that various reports , from Oxford economics to the OBR among many others found that non EEA migrants were negative net fiscal contributors to the uk economy ,in other words a drain , who typically went into low skilled low paid jobs , brought their families with them , and therefore needed higher government spending on education , family benefits and tax credit type handouts. Thats before we even take into account hotel costs for asylum seekers. The only contributions immigration has made is the mountains of debt. I wish that were true, it would make the decision so much easier. Stop immigration and be better off. Sadly its not true. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 11, 2024 10:22:36 GMT
BOLLOCKS...So why are we the tax payers expected to pay over 8 million quid a day to house the wankers in hotels? Its a tiny amount Jonsky, and while its fucking annoying, it wouldn't change the economy a jot. The bill for housing asylum seekers in hotels per annum (migration watch figures 2022) is around similar to what labour is saving by axing the winter fuel payments for our pensioners. Why is one necessary to fill the fantasy Labour Party black hole , but the other an inconsequential and tiny amount? Charity begins at home. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 11, 2024 10:23:03 GMT
He wants you to embrace FoM with the EU and have all the Poles back and anyone else with a trade. That's what he wants. He believes land in England is infinite along with its services to cope with this constant boom in immigration. I'll let you know when I need a spokes person. In the meantime stick to giving your opinion instead of mine. So what's your solution to what Sandy said, oh so mighty one? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 11, 2024 10:24:56 GMT
The only contributions immigration has made is the mountains of debt. , it would make the decision so much easier. Stop immigration and be better off. Sadly its not true. Of course it is true. Care to post positive proof that it isn't or will you just go into planet zany mode? |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:32:53 GMT
Its a tiny amount Jonsky, and while its fucking annoying, it wouldn't change the economy a jot. The bill for housing asylum seekers in hotels per annum (migration watch figures 2022) is around similar to what labour is saving by axing the winter fuel payments for our pensioners. Why is one necessary to fill the fantasy Labour Party black hole , but the other an inconsequential and tiny amount? Charity begins at home. Because as always the solution is more complex than just stop doing it. That's why I tire of engaging with you. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 11, 2024 10:35:36 GMT
The bill for housing asylum seekers in hotels per annum (migration watch figures 2022) is around similar to what labour is saving by axing the winter fuel payments for our pensioners. Why is one necessary to fill the fantasy Labour Party black hole , but the other an inconsequential and tiny amount? Charity begins at home. Because as always the solution is more complex than just stop doing it. That's why I tire of engaging with you. And we ALL tire of you lefty uniformed bullshit... |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:35:59 GMT
I wish that were true, it would make the decision so much easier. Stop immigration and be better off. Sadly its not true. Of course it is true. Care to post positive proof that it isn't or will you just go into planet zany mode? Tell you what, why don't you post figures backing up the claim, after all you made it. I have posted the figures a number of times, but hasn't changed the rhetoric. But it has afforded you another chance to write BOLLOX in capitals whilst ignoring the numbers. So some good came out of it.  |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 10:37:52 GMT
Because as always the solution is more complex than just stop doing it. That's why I tire of engaging with you. And we ALL tire of you lefty uniformed bullshit... It would appear not. Sites never been so busy since my return. And WE again. Do you have a list of who you represent? Or are you so up your arse you think your view is everyone's. |
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