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Post by jonksy on Nov 8, 2024 15:07:52 GMT
Growth down, stocks down, jobs down, inflation up! Labour has already botched the economy..... In last week's Budget Reeves stunned the nation by hitting us with £40billion of tax hikes and an extra £32billion of additional borrowing. It looked horrible at the time, and looks even worse today. We're already suffering blowback from her tax and spend spree. Instead of driving growth, as PM Keir Starmer promised, it appears to be destroying it....
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Post by zanygame on Nov 8, 2024 15:20:17 GMT
“ Regarding self sufficiency in food.that stopped 4 decades ago.” Fair enough ..let’s just add to the problem . Not from my viewpoint. We aren't self sufficient in any number of essential items, everything from Copper to cotton. But so long as we don't fall out with the whole world someone will sell them to us |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 8, 2024 15:26:05 GMT
Here's where I have a problem Ok so there is a field And there are the solar panels set up in it How is the grass going to grow under these panels when they take all the light and leave nothing underneath them for the plants to absorb. Yes, I understand that there will be vegetation around the panels Yes I understand that sheep and maybe even Welsh black cattle might be able to graze on that. The Welsh black is a breed engineered through quite a period of animal husbandry to thrive on poor quality feed on sparse Welsh hills But surely the overall productivity MUST be reduced ... Yes that’s been acknowledged. The local area that is going to be used as a solar farm is used to grow sugar beet. I’m not sure about crop rotation but that’s the crop mentioned. The interesting figure would be yield, but I doubt we can get that. We can only surmise that if the yield was good the farmer wouldn't be switching to Solar. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 8, 2024 15:33:02 GMT
SNATS forced into ‘humiliating’ U-turn on woodburning stove ban.... SNAT ministers have scrapped a controversial ban on installing woodburning stoves in new homes after a huge backlash in rural Scotland forced a “humiliating” about-turn. Alasdair Allan, the Climate Action Minister, said he had listened to concerns from rural and island communities that they relied on woodburners during power cuts and bad weather.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 8, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
SNATS forced into ‘humiliating’ U-turn on woodburning stove ban.... SNAT ministers have scrapped a controversial ban on installing woodburning stoves in new homes after a huge backlash in rural Scotland forced a “humiliating” about-turn. Alasdair Allan, the Climate Action Minister, said he had listened to concerns from rural and island communities that they relied on woodburners during power cuts and bad weather.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 8, 2024 16:19:16 GMT
England makes up 40% of the land of the british isles , but has nearly 80 % of the population. France has a population of something like 68 million , compared to england 57 million. England can fit inside France 5 times over. France has expensive areas , like some of the rich suburbs of Paris , or ski resorts like Chamonix , whereas over in western France , like the Marais poitevin , house prices are extremely cheap by comparison to the uk. In Scotlands central belt , which is massively overpopulated similar to Englands south east , if you want to buy a house in a rich suburb of Glasgow or Edinburgh , for example Bearsden or morning side , you will pay a premium as you would in south east england. Contrast that with the thinly populated north of scotland, where you can get a detached council bungalow overlooking the sea such is the lack of people , and you begin to see the pattern and truth of your words that zany appears to be unable to understand. Zany tells me he Is a businessman , yet doesn't appear to understand the basics that the higher the population , the higher the demand for housing ,the higher the price . Thats before we even get onto the fact how much land is needed to sustain human population in terms of food , water , producing energy and such like. Pushing past all the other stuff which ignores the fact Zany has already pointed out that only 11% of England ( not uk) is built on. Zanys point is shortage of houses has nothing to do with shortage of land to build on, it is about shortage of land released for building. Regarding self sufficiency in food.that stopped 4 decades ago. You keep repeating the same old rubbish, most people live below the 700ft contour and in England that accounts for about half the land, so your 11% is more like 20% of where the houses will be built. To build effectively at higher elevations you need a different spec in terms of water run off/drainage, insulation, wind resistance and roof construction. Unless you actively want to live there, and most people do not, then speculation building will not entertain it. Self sufficiency in food is the most obvious target to obtain for the basics. Of course there is shortage of land being released becaseu most people do not want vast numbers of little boxes next to them, car repairs outside their living room window and numerous kids bored out of their skulls rampaging and screaming in the back gardens. I remember coming home in summer evenings in the 80s to the rich smell of honeysuckle, replaced by the 90s with barbecue fluid and burnt sausages. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 8, 2024 16:31:02 GMT
SNATS forced into ‘humiliating’ U-turn on woodburning stove ban.... SNAT ministers have scrapped a controversial ban on installing woodburning stoves in new homes after a huge backlash in rural Scotland forced a “humiliating” about-turn. Alasdair Allan, the Climate Action Minister, said he had listened to concerns from rural and island communities that they relied on woodburners during power cuts and bad weather.
Badly thought through policy of one size fits all. But isnt that the crux of all nut zero madness? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 8, 2024 16:33:57 GMT
Yes that’s been acknowledged. The local area that is going to be used as a solar farm is used to grow sugar beet. I’m not sure about crop rotation but that’s the crop mentioned. The interesting figure would be yield, but I doubt we can get that. We can only surmise that if the yield was good the farmer wouldn't be switching to Solar. The farmer didn’t switch to solar , he has leased the land to the solar farm . I have not heard that the yield in that areas is less than anywhere else and if it were I’m sure he would have said . I suspect that he simply got more money than actually growing stuff . That doesn’t mean he made no money before |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 8, 2024 16:35:39 GMT
“ Regarding self sufficiency in food.that stopped 4 decades ago.” Fair enough ..let’s just add to the problem . Not from my viewpoint. We aren't self sufficient in any number of essential items, everything from Copper to cotton. But so long as we don't fall out with the whole world someone will sell them to us Well let’s stop growing anything . You are a genius . |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 8, 2024 16:45:41 GMT
“ Regarding self sufficiency in food.that stopped 4 decades ago.” Fair enough ..let’s just add to the problem . Not from my viewpoint. We aren't self sufficient in any number of essential items, everything from Copper to cotton. But so long as we don't fall out with the whole world someone will sell them to us Everything that undermines this country will be guaranteed your support. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 8, 2024 16:48:36 GMT
Pushing past all the other stuff which ignores the fact Zany has already pointed out that only 11% of England ( not uk) is built on. Zanys point is shortage of houses has nothing to do with shortage of land to build on, it is about shortage of land released for building. Regarding self sufficiency in food.that stopped 4 decades ago. You keep repeating the same old rubbish, most people live below the 700ft contour and in England that accounts for about half the land, so your 11% is more like 20% of where the houses will be built. To build effectively at higher elevations you need a different spec in terms of water run off/drainage, insulation, wind resistance and roof construction. Unless you actively want to live there, and most people do not, then speculation building will not entertain it. Self sufficiency in food is the most obvious target to obtain for the basics. Of course there is shortage of land being released becaseu most people do not want vast numbers of little boxes next to them, car repairs outside their living room window and numerous kids bored out of their skulls rampaging and screaming in the back gardens. I remember coming home in summer evenings in the 80s to the rich smell of honeysuckle, replaced by the 90s with barbecue fluid and burnt sausages. Sorry what? People can't build houses in areas higher than 700ft, 200mtrs? What you mean is most houses are built in valleys because England is old and people built next to water sources. Talk about trying to twist the facts to suit your agenda, this is a new low. And even then that only means 20% is built of for 70 million people, so 2% more would supply the 700,000 shortfall. Anyone who lives in the country and or has worked on farms knows there are fields and patches of fields on just about every farm that sit doing nothing because they are not viable. Below I took a google image of just my small village, the areas outlined in red are fields left fallow since I moved here 17 years ago. You have to understand, every farm has some land like this.  |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 8, 2024 16:49:25 GMT
Badly thought through policy of one size fits all. But isnt that the crux of all nut zero madness? Net zero is not mad, but some of the ideas of how to achieve it are. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 8, 2024 17:03:18 GMT
But isnt that the crux of all nut zero madness? Net zero is not mad, but some of the ideas of how to achieve it are. Of course its fucking mad. |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 8, 2024 17:07:43 GMT
Not from my viewpoint. We aren't self sufficient in any number of essential items, everything from Copper to cotton. But so long as we don't fall out with the whole world someone will sell them to us Well let’s stop growing anything . You are a genius . The genius is managing to post an endless supply of insane nonsense and supporting everything that is odious and wrong. It gets the attention it seeks.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 8, 2024 17:37:04 GMT
Well let’s stop growing anything . You are a genius . The genius is managing to post an endless supply of insane nonsense and supporting everything that is odious and wrong. It gets the attention it seeks.
Wiki ”The UK has over time emitted about 3% of the world total human caused CO2, with a current rate under 1%, although the population is less than 1%” Our headlong rush to net zero will do literally nothing to stop ‘ climate change ‘. We are fitting useless heat pumps to houses not designed for them ( a gas engineer told me that he gets two or three calls a month asking him to change them to gas boilers . He refuses ) . We are woefully unprepared for EVs and we are covering the country with wind turbines and solar panels. It wouldn’t be so bad if the ‘ fossil fuel’ energy was still in place until the new technology was mature ..but that’s not going to happen . Its an ideological hobby horse supported by virtue signally lefties . |
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