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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 6, 2024 16:47:35 GMT
I wonder how many of our children would be alive today if we had no immigration? Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. When you say 'our' birth rate, you refer to the white British population, right?
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Post by ratcliff on Nov 6, 2024 16:55:34 GMT
I wonder how many of our children would be alive today if we had no immigration? Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. Then incentivise the birth rate for net contributors to make childcare etc easier (eg £2-5000 extra personal tax level) and remove all financial incentives for unemployed benefit scroungers to become pregnant and stay taking '' because they ''can't '' work )- once they have become gainfully employed they would be eligible for family financial incentives
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2024 16:59:48 GMT
Were they when those children were born who have been murdered by the unwanted andrea? If you are referring to Southport, the man wasn't an immigrant. I thought that you were actually making a point about the workforce being able to be made up purely of those born in this country, i.e. the macro issue. Not spacificaly andrea FFS. Do you think that was the only murders that has been carried out by the unwanted?... You must make your mate steve very proud with your childish semantics and pedantry....
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2024 17:02:26 GMT
Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. Then incentivise the birth rate for net contributors to make childcare etc easier (eg £2-5000 extra personal tax level) and remove all financial incentives for unemployed benefit scroungers to become pregnant and stay taking '' because they ''can't '' work )- once they have become gainfully employed they would be eligible for family financial incentives Many young girls these days make it a career choice to have kids by multiple fathers even before they have left school.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 6, 2024 17:09:24 GMT
Were they when those children were born who have been murdered by the unwanted andrea? If you are referring to Southport, the man wasn't an immigrant. I thought that you were actually making a point about the workforce being able to be made up purely of those born in this country, i.e. the macro issue. He was second generation migrant.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 17:27:13 GMT
FFS do you still not know the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL migrants... Well one could certainly be forgiven: The left have been deliberately blurring that line for years. I haven't. I have been explicit on who I was talking about. I do not represent "the left"
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 17:30:39 GMT
Anyway Einstein's I asked a fair question but obviously it easier to play with Jonsky who doesn't have an answer either. Let's have some facts and figures before you start trying to tell the difference between illegal and legal because for some reason those who decide don't have a clue either My definition for the purposes of this conversation are those who applied to come here legally and were accepted legally. There maybe a few thousand others who applied for asylum and got it, but their numbers are insignificant when considering the housing shortage.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2024 17:33:30 GMT
Then incentivise the birth rate for net contributors to make childcare etc easier (eg £2-5000 extra personal tax level) and remove all financial incentives for unemployed benefit scroungers to become pregnant and stay taking '' because they ''can't '' work )- once they have become gainfully employed they would be eligible for family financial incentives Many young girls these days make it a career choice to have kids by multiple fathers even before they have left school. Read that in the Daily Mail did you?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 17:33:59 GMT
Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. Thats because couples cant afford or find anywhere to live let alone take on the responsibility of having a family . Uncontrolled mass immigration has played a part in that Agreed. WE need to break the cycle. Stop most immigration and build more houses. Both needed to deal with the issue.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 17:34:56 GMT
Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. When you say 'our' birth rate, you refer to the white British population, right? I would assume so as we are discussing why we have immigration.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 6, 2024 17:55:10 GMT
I wonder how many of our children would be alive today if we had no immigration? Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. as we are being warned about the massive loss of jobs that will be caused by the introduction of AI, is that not a good thing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2024 17:55:22 GMT
Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. Then incentivise the birth rate for net contributors to make childcare etc easier (eg £2-5000 extra personal tax level) and remove all financial incentives for unemployed benefit scroungers to become pregnant and stay taking '' because they ''can't '' work )- once they have become gainfully employed they would be eligible for family financial incentives The obvious contradiction in what you are saying is that immigration is supposedly excessive because there are too many of us already. But wait.... clearly there are so few of us that we need to incentivise more breeding. All of which are clues to where you are coming from. And your contempt for those who cant work makes no distinction between a few swinging the lead, others who might be able to work with the right support, and others who genuinely cant work. Which itself signposts you ignorance and malice. Hater dont do nuance. You come to this forum full of hate and prejudice, reeking of contempt for those less fortunate than yourself, often from a position of extreme ignorance. And of course you are cheer led by your fellow hate fuelled and even more ignorant buffoons who form the dominant population on this forum. It's motto should perhaps be hate not hope. Which is why so many of you are on my ignore list and I only read their posts if I choose to. You yourself are a pig ignorant little hate monger and its all you come here for. If it makes you feel better, bully for you. I have no further interest in the pig ignorant yet malicious shit you come out with, so I will add you to my ignore list after this post. I am more than happy to engage with those who disagree with me yet who bring logic, intelligence, compassion, understanding, and thoughtfulness to the debate - Thomas, Pacifico, Zany are typical examples, even the Squeezed Middle on a good day. But I have no desire to engage with hate fuelled by ignorance and malice. People whose only interest here is to showcase their ignorance, malice, hate, or stupidity, are just going to be blocked from now on. I have no interest in anything you have to say. Let this post sever to let anyone not just you know why I am mostly going to be ignoring you.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 6, 2024 17:59:54 GMT
Well one could certainly be forgiven: The left have been deliberately blurring that line for years. I haven't. I have been explicit on who I was talking about. I do not represent "the left" Mayhap you don't.
But the lines are blurred, and quite deliberately so, regardless.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 18:04:55 GMT
Our birth rate is at catastrophically low rates. as we are being warned about the massive loss of jobs that will be caused by the introduction of AI, is that not a good thing? But who will get paid?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 6, 2024 18:07:26 GMT
I haven't. I have been explicit on who I was talking about. I do not represent "the left" Mayhap you don't.
But the lines are blurred, and quite deliberately so, regardless.
I've not seen it myself. For me its quite clear if you applied for a visa and got accepted or if you arrived covertly without one. We could agree that the home office don't know where all the asylum seekers are and keep no record on overstayers.
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