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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 21, 2024 9:03:22 GMT
A mod who's opening reply is whataboutism, off topic. Farage also broke the law over offering paid tours of parliament, so it's not that he's used to keeping to the rules. The only reason he has a following is because a lot of people hate immigrants. He has no morals himself and doesn't care. Wanting immigration control isn't hate. Illegal immigration drowns people. Legal immigration is far above what we can actually cope with. It's not that "immigrants" = bad, it's that there are problems with the system and we have to grasp a nettle in order to fix it. I've been called racist many a time simply for wanting migration controls. I don't want to come out of the convention on Human Rights although we should look at our own 1998 act and see if loopholes exist in it, that aren't needed under the convention as too many people have died because of illegal immigration and we need to stop the deaths. I agree with you, I want migration controlled too, and I agree that the current asylum process is not fit for purpose. I don't think you're racist at all, I've never seen you post anything vaguely racist. There are plenty on this forum who are though. Leaving the ECHR would be a disaster for Northern Ireland, there's no getting away from that. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 21, 2024 9:07:39 GMT
I'm not that bothered about Northern Ireland specifically, I'm more bothered about everyone's human rights.
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 21, 2024 9:14:13 GMT
I'm not that bothered about Northern Ireland specifically No, and this was an issue in the referendum. Unfortunately NI got screwed over, Boris sold them down the river with a pack of lies, but the English people didn't care. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 21, 2024 9:14:34 GMT
What is mind blowing, we spend tens of millions tracking and setting up drugs trafficking organizations, we've got National Crime Agency who have dedicated officers who track down and bring down drugs gangs, yet we have people traffickers who just allowed to go about their daily business, taking money off migrants to illegal transport them to the UK, if it was a dinghy full of drugs they would be apprehended and sent to prison for drug trafficking .... what's going on?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 21, 2024 9:17:01 GMT
I'm not that bothered about Northern Ireland specifically No, and this was an issue in the referendum. Unfortunately NI got screwed over, Boris sold them down the river with a pack of lies, but the English people didn't care. I care about their human rights. But "everyone" is more important than "some". Take away "everyone's" human rights and "some" then risk abuse. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 21, 2024 9:21:07 GMT
No, and this was an issue in the referendum. Unfortunately NI got screwed over, Boris sold them down the river with a pack of lies, but the English people didn't care. I care about their human rights. But "everyone" is more important than "some". Take away "everyone's" human rights and "some" then risk abuse. Something which still appears to elude our judiciary. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2024 9:50:12 GMT
Wanting immigration control isn't hate. Illegal immigration drowns people. Legal immigration is far above what we can actually cope with. It's not that "immigrants" = bad, it's that there are problems with the system and we have to grasp a nettle in order to fix it. I've been called racist many a time simply for wanting migration controls. I don't want to come out of the convention on Human Rights although we should look at our own 1998 act and see if loopholes exist in it, that aren't needed under the convention as too many people have died because of illegal immigration and we need to stop the deaths. I agree with you, I want migration controlled too, and I agree that the current asylum process is not fit for purpose. I don't think you're racist at all, I've never seen you post anything vaguely racist. There are plenty on this forum who are though. Leaving the ECHR would be a disaster for Northern Ireland, there's no getting away from that. And all from the left... |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2024 10:09:59 GMT
Nigel Farage appears at trial of woman, 25, accused of throwing milkshake during election campaign..... Nigel Farage has appeared at the trial of a 25-year-old woman accused of assault by beating after the Reform UK leader was hit by a milkshake while campaigning in the general election...... Victoria Thomas Bowen, from Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, is set to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London this morning. She is also accused of criminal damage as well as the assault charge..... Mr Farage, 60, was covered with a drink as he left a Wetherspoons pub in Clacton-on-Sea on 4 June. Prosecutors allege that £30 worth of criminal damage was caused to a jacket belonging to a member of Mr Farage's team. Caroline Liggins, representing Ms Bowen, said: "My client strongly protests her innocence and looks forward to fighting these unjust charges in court." Nigel Farage is now the MP for Clacton after winning the seat in the 4 July election with a majority of 8,405.....
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2024 10:46:32 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2024 10:53:21 GMT
Nigel Farage appears at trial of woman, 25, accused of throwing milkshake during election campaign..... Nigel Farage has appeared at the trial of a 25-year-old woman accused of assault by beating after the Reform UK leader was hit by a milkshake while campaigning in the general election...... Victoria Thomas Bowen, from Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, is set to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London this morning. She is also accused of criminal damage as well as the assault charge..... Mr Farage, 60, was covered with a drink as he left a Wetherspoons pub in Clacton-on-Sea on 4 June. Prosecutors allege that £30 worth of criminal damage was caused to a jacket belonging to a member of Mr Farage's team. Caroline Liggins, representing Ms Bowen, said: "My client strongly protests her innocence and looks forward to fighting these unjust charges in court."
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2024 11:20:18 GMT
You mean you haven't bothered to read the OP yet? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2024 11:21:49 GMT
Nigel Farage appears at trial of woman, 25, accused of throwing milkshake during election campaign..... Nigel Farage has appeared at the trial of a 25-year-old woman accused of assault by beating after the Reform UK leader was hit by a milkshake while campaigning in the general election...... Victoria Thomas Bowen, from Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, is set to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London this morning. She is also accused of criminal damage as well as the assault charge..... Mr Farage, 60, was covered with a drink as he left a Wetherspoons pub in Clacton-on-Sea on 4 June. Prosecutors allege that £30 worth of criminal damage was caused to a jacket belonging to a member of Mr Farage's team. Caroline Liggins, representing Ms Bowen, said: "My client strongly protests her innocence and looks forward to fighting these unjust charges in court."
What's the "beating" bit about. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 21, 2024 11:53:10 GMT
Nigel Farage appears at trial of woman, 25, accused of throwing milkshake during election campaign..... Nigel Farage has appeared at the trial of a 25-year-old woman accused of assault by beating after the Reform UK leader was hit by a milkshake while campaigning in the general election...... Victoria Thomas Bowen, from Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, is set to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London this morning. She is also accused of criminal damage as well as the assault charge..... Mr Farage, 60, was covered with a drink as he left a Wetherspoons pub in Clacton-on-Sea on 4 June. Prosecutors allege that £30 worth of criminal damage was caused to a jacket belonging to a member of Mr Farage's team. Caroline Liggins, representing Ms Bowen, said: "My client strongly protests her innocence and looks forward to fighting these unjust charges in court."
Splendid. Now let's see whether two-tier justice is applied or whether she actually gets an appropriate sentence. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2024 18:20:09 GMT
Splendid. Now let's see whether two-tier justice is applied or whether she actually gets an appropriate sentence. What "two-tier justice" are you referring to? |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 22, 2024 19:28:58 GMT
Splendid. Now let's see whether two-tier justice is applied or whether she actually gets an appropriate sentence. What "two-tier justice" are you referring to? Whereby the government direct the 'independent' judiciary how to go about their business and suggest that sentences should be lengthy in specific circumstances. |
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