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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 7, 2024 12:58:45 GMT
Steven Edginton has laid bare some of his biggest takeaways from his new GB News documentary, Immigration: The Truth - the changing face of Britain explored. Speaking on GB News, Steven said it was clear to him that many Britons feel “betrayed” by the staggering levels of immigration. He says the issue has been further exacerbated by the country’s “generous” institutions like the NHS incentivising migrants to head for Britain via legal or illegal means. “I learned that attitudes towards immigration are very emotive on both sides”, he said. “The impact has been immense. Two years ago, we saw race riots in Leicester between different communities over a cricket match which goes to show Leicester isn’t quite the rosy image it’s portrayed to be. “We went to Great Yarmouth and the attitudes were the same. People were incredibly angry and felt betrayed by this issue when politicians had told them for years that immigration would be cut. The exact opposite had happened. “It’s a reason why this is one of the five constituencies that voted in a Reform representative. It’s one of the poorest paid places in the country and even there, you can see many immigrants walking around Great Yarmouth.” According to the latest ONS (Office for National Statistics) data, around 1.2 million people migrated into the UK in 2023. Many commentators claim the figure is likely to be much higher. www.gbnews.com/news/immigration-documentary-steven-edgintonAs I have mentioned previously, Farage doesn't have to do anything. Starmer and this left wing pro immigration government is the best recruiting sergeant that Reform UK could hope for. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 7, 2024 13:20:33 GMT
Apart from his early days in UKIP, when he paid lip-service to the party's proposal for a five-year moratorium on all immigration (quietly dropped when he took control), Farage has never called for immigration to be restricted, except in the single and solitary case of free movement from the EU.
Since Brexit, when the Tories opened the floodgates to immigration from outside Europe, he has never taken a stance on the subject.
You've been conned into admitting Pakistanis instead of Poles.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 7, 2024 23:27:43 GMT
Apart from his early days in UKIP, when he paid lip-service to the party's proposal for a five-year moratorium on all immigration (quietly dropped when he took control), Farage has never called for immigration to be restricted, except in the single and solitary case of free movement from the EU. Since Brexit, when the Tories opened the floodgates to immigration from outside Europe, he has never taken a stance on the subject. You've been conned into admitting Pakistanis instead of Poles. Remember this from 2016. Farage openly condemned open door immigration claiming... "free movement within the EU has had a very detrimental effect on peoples quality of life". Who now would say he was wrong?  And you know perfectly well that it was not the Tories but president Blair, who had one eye on becoming the next unelected president of Europe, who opened up the UK to 'mass' immigration like never before when he allowed A8 countries free access to the UK. An act of incompetence that at least two of his former ministers, Frank Field and David Blunkett, later apologised for. I agree, when it come to immigration illegal or otherwise, the Tories were equally negligent. Lets hope Reform UK do better. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 5:11:00 GMT
Migrant, 32, who was jailed in the UK before being deported sneaks back into Britain and wins the right to stay... under the ECHR..... A deported Albanian migrant used a legal loophole to sneak back into Britain and won the right to stay under the European Convention on Human Rights. Ardit Binaj, 32, entered the UK illegally in a lorry in 2014 before being arrested the next year for burglary. He was jailed for 30 months in 2016 for the break-in, alongside a six-month prison term for another burglary and 18 weeks for a separate theft. But Binaj was released six months early from his two-and-a-half year prison sentence. He was then deported to Albania as part of a prisoner transfer agreement but he was back in the UK within a few months. His Lithuanian girlfriend had leave to remain in the UK under the Government's EU settlement scheme, and he breached his deportation order to be with her. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13935077/Migrant-jailed-UK-deported-sneaks-Britain-wins-stay-ECHR.html |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 8, 2024 8:43:29 GMT
Remember this from 2016. Farage openly condemned open door immigration claiming... "free movement within the EU has had a very detrimental effect on peoples quality of life". Who now would say he was wrong? And you know perfectly well that it was not the Tories but president Blair, who had one eye on becoming the next unelected president of Europe, who opened up the UK to 'mass' immigration like never before when he allowed A8 countries free access to the UK. An act of incompetence that at least two of his former ministers, Frank Field and David Blunkett, later apologised for. I agree, when it come to immigration illegal or otherwise, the Tories were equally negligent. Lets hope Reform UK do better. As noted already, Farage's criticism of immigration did not extend beyond the EU. He had nothing to say about immigration from outside the EU and in fact prior to Brexit he argued for a 'level playing field' in which EU and non-EU migration would be treated identically. As has now indeed come to pass.
And although we have seen pictures of Nige standing guard on the South Coast we have never seen any of him in the arrivals hall at Heathrow protesting about the several Jumbo-loads of third world migrants who turn up each day.
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Post by bancroft on Oct 8, 2024 10:49:25 GMT
Rubbish it would create a riot at Heathrow as whether we like it or not many foreign looking people live here, I know as I used to travel through Heathrow.
Getting out of the EU was the priority because at the time they were welcoming immigration.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 8, 2024 11:11:53 GMT
Perhaps a riot at Heathrow is just what is needed to awaken the GBP from its torpor.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 14:47:32 GMT
UK population rises to 68.3 million, driven by immigration....... LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's population grew by 1% in annual terms to 68.3 million as of mid-2023, mainly due to high immigration, official data showed on Tuesday. Net international migration was the main contributor to population increase for all four countries of the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland - in the year to mid-2023, Britain's Office for National Statistics said. The natural change in population, which is the difference between births and deaths, fell by 16,300. Previous projections from the ONS suggested a negative reading would not occur until the mid-2030s. Britain has seen high immigration in recent years from economic migrants and those who arrive via irregular crossings in small boats - a hot political topic because of stretched public services after years of under-investment. Record immigration caused the population of England and Wales to rise by 610,000 in mid-2023, the largest annual rise in 75 years. Net migration to Britain in 2015, the year before the Brexit referendum, was 329,000. The population grew faster in England and in Wales, both seeing a 1% rise, when compared to Scotland with 0.8% growth or Northern Ireland which posted a 0.5% increase, the ONS said on Tuesday. While post-Brexit changes to visas saw a sharp drop in the number of European Union migrants to Britain, while new work visa rules led to a surge in immigration from India, Nigeria and Pakistan, often to fill health and social care vacancies.
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Post by piglet on Oct 11, 2024 10:29:18 GMT
Its more serious than this, that the previous Tory government tore up the manifesto it got voted in for.
We could present a bullet form list of betrayals, theres no point, its total.
Ive lost faith in parliament.
All of it.
If i could i would turn the houses of parliament into a museum, its worth preserving, and open an office in Sheffield, thats all it takes, with Reform in charge.
How can King Charles sit back and allow criminali to run this country?
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Post by patman post on Oct 11, 2024 14:28:04 GMT
Countries in many regions of today's world are the results of immigration — Africa, the Americas, Asia and Australasia are prime examples — and much of it caused by European colonisation, expansion, and immigration.
Even the current forms of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan were formed by mass migrations orchestrated by European powers.
I reckon that, by contrast, Britain has escaped relatively lightly the oppression and subjugation by foreign interests, that it and other European countries put on others...
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 11, 2024 15:43:36 GMT
Look on the bright side...Europe and other destination countries created by Europeans have provided sanctuary and prosperity for many millions of migrants from other countries and remain the destinations of choice for anyone wishing to escape persecution and pursue a better life.
But I am curious about one thing. When you say "Even the current forms of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan were formed by mass migrations orchestrated by European powers," which migrations do you have in mind?
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Post by bancroft on Oct 11, 2024 18:21:38 GMT
Countries in many regions of today's world are the results of immigration — Africa, the Americas, Asia and Australasia are prime examples — and much of it caused by European colonisation, expansion, and immigration. Even the current forms of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan were formed by mass migrations orchestrated by European powers. I reckon that, by contrast, Britain has escaped relatively lightly the oppression and subjugation by foreign interests, that it and other European countries put on others... Britain saved India from domination by the Mughals (Islamic) after the independence distrust between the groups caused the breakup, nothing to do with Britain they wanted us to stay out of it. In the '40s we invited thousands from India to work in textiles to undercut other markets yet this failed, no democratic decision on this, just a big government decision. Immigrants later let in as Brit workers wanted higher pay, that worked well just look at train drivers. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 13, 2024 14:19:38 GMT
Countries in many regions of today's world are the results of immigration — Africa, the Americas, Asia and Australasia are prime examples — and much of it caused by European colonisation, expansion, and immigration. Even the current forms of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan were formed by mass migrations orchestrated by European powers. I reckon that, by contrast, Britain has escaped relatively lightly the oppression and subjugation by foreign interests, that it and other European countries put on others... Britain saved India from domination by the Mughals (Islamic) after the independence distrust between the groups caused the breakup, nothing to do with Britain they wanted us to stay out of it.
In the '40s we invited thousands from India to work in textiles to undercut other markets yet this failed, no democratic decision on this, just a big government decision. Immigrants later let in as Brit workers wanted higher pay, that worked well just look at train drivers. If by wanting us to stay out of it, you mean the indigenous population of the subcontinent, that's probably true.
Of you wish to refer to Britain's specific activities, disclosing the ethnic cleansing (actually, almost complete eradication) of the indigenous people of Tasmania in the first part of the 19th century would be a place to begin...
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Post by Orac on Oct 13, 2024 14:43:30 GMT
UK population rises to 68.3 million, driven by immigration....... This is a, likely quite deliberate, under-estimate. It is probably now close to ninety million (high eighties). |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 13, 2024 15:33:56 GMT
Its one of those admittances we rarely see, although everyone in every town and city in the UK already knows immigration is so huge it has affected everywhere they live, so an admittance of a large increase in population is for certain, nobody actually knows how large it is. So say 6 million or so quickly, it doesn't sound so bad.Whereas say 80 million plus sounds like a disaster in waiting.
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