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Post by wapentake on Sept 25, 2024 19:28:47 GMT
This arrest should have gone to TV news for discussion. Police probably arrested her to prevent a public dis-order breaking out. The mob was there to mock and abuse, does one these days have to book and provide a theme to speak about? Haven’t you asked yourself why it’s never been on the media? |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Sept 25, 2024 19:39:42 GMT
There used to be an elderly gentleman in my small town who, every Saturday, could be heard loudly preaching in the High Street. One day a young policeman told him to stop ... because a shopkeeper claimed he was "driving away his customers". The policeman said he would arrest him if he carried on. There are still Christian preachers around town ... but they have been told not to stand near the shops. In effect the police have allocated designated areas for preachers that do not interfere with trade. I've noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses usually pick spots that "Don't interfere with trade" (like outside empty shops). Mammon has precedence ... God must respect his authority.
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Post by wapentake on Sept 25, 2024 21:19:42 GMT
There used to be an elderly gentleman in my small town who, every Saturday, could be heard loudly preaching in the High Street. One day a young policeman told him to stop ... because a shopkeeper claimed he was "driving away his customers". The policeman said he would arrest him if he carried on. There are still Christian preachers around town ... but they have been told not to stand near the shops. In effect the police have allocated designated areas for preachers that do not interfere with trade. I've noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses usually pick spots that "Don't interfere with trade" (like outside empty shops). Mammon has precedence ... God must respect his authority. Well speakers corner is a designated area for free speech and has been a long time.that is part of our culture,Red has touched on this in a post that when you go to a Muslim country you have to respect their culture,I have no problem with that because whatever my views on some of that culture that is their right Now there was the film the life of Brian which upset some devout Christian’s but our culture allows for people to do films like that and there was no call for religious reprisal against those that involved violence or murder. Now can you see a film the life of Mo that did the same,can you imagine the reaction never mind that Westminster wouldn’t allow it,but what you have to ask is why not,that is our culture and if you wish to live here you should respect that,it’s not racism or Islamophobia it’s called when in Rome. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 26, 2024 8:06:29 GMT
It's a bit late to start objecting now - we are over the edge of the cliff and about halfway down Well at least the courts had her back which is a nice change . Maybe the winds are changing It's not that much comfort. The next person who speaks against the prophet may not be so lucky after being arrested |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 26, 2024 8:09:38 GMT
I normally support the police but this woman a Christian preacher who has been spat at and attacked multiple time along with death threats by militant Muslims has been told the police they cannot protect her,why not? She was setting up at speakers corner when a Muslim male stole her copy of the Koran which she uses in her soapbox speech on the faults of Islam,one of her supporters rang the police to report the theft. The police arrived in numbers and proceeded to arrest her whilst a Muslim mob jeered threatened shouting Alluha Akhbar. She was taken to a police station where she was strip searched,why was that she’s not a suspected drug dealer and in this country we are supposed to have free speech. She has gone to court and won £10k in damages from the met. link
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 26, 2024 11:26:40 GMT
Yet Another Radical Bangladeshi Preacher Embarks on a U.K. TourA radical Bangladeshi preacher with a history of extreme and violent invective against non-Muslims and minority Muslim sects has embarked on a speaking tour of the United Kingdom, leading to condemnations from moderate Bengali activists. Abdur Razzak Bin Yousuf arrived in England in mid-December. After a lengthy speaking tour around the country, he is due to conclude his visit with an address to the “Never Ending Abode Conference” on December 31st, at the Nottingham Islam Information Point. Yousuf is just one of several hardline Islamic preachers to have easily secured a U.K. visa over the past year. In June 2023, FWI reported on the visit to Britain by Anayetullah Abbasi, best known in Bangladesh for advocating the killing of Ahmadiyyah Muslims, Hindus, atheists, Jews, among others. islamism.news/news/yet-another-radical-bangladeshi-preacher-embarks-on-a-u-k-tour/It would seem the government the Home Office and the police, in this Christian country, turn a blind eye to hardline Islamic preachers, but come down hard on Christian preachers! You really couldn't make it up.
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Post by Hutchyns on Sept 26, 2024 11:45:53 GMT
wapentake
I'm late taking a look at this thread, but having read the link am assuming that it was the unwarranted instigation of a strip search that would have resulted in the award of damages ? The activity at the Police station rather than anything that happened at Speakers Corner ?
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'Having arrived at Charing Cross Police station, Ms Tash was then needlessly strip-searched, which her lawyers later said breached her Article 3 European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) rights. Officers also deliberately removed her glasses so that she could not see. Having deprived the woman whose belongings had been stolen of sleep, officers then interrogated her at 4am.
After 15 hours in custody she was released and told there would be no further action. She was not given any assistance to retrieve her belongings from Speakers’ Corner'.
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And perhaps throwing in an extra few quid for an arguably excessive amount of time that she was kept in custody. The T shirt and the 'holey' rather than holy Koran didn't help her cause, and appear to have resulted in her falling foul of the Public Order Act. If she instead leaves her offensive 'props' at home and confines herself to arguing her case, it should be to the benefit of all involved.
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Post by Hutchyns on Sept 26, 2024 11:52:22 GMT
Red Rackham Just as long as 'Keir Starmer The Granny Harmer' and a host of Cabinet Ministers don't get given free tickets for it ! The greedy buggers should surely have learnt their lesson after Taylor Swift. I hope Abdur Razzak Bin Yousuf doesn't even send them a free tour T-shirt.  |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 26, 2024 12:48:04 GMT
wapentake I'm late taking a look at this thread, but having read the link am assuming that it was the unwarranted instigation of a strip search that would have resulted in the award of damages ? The activity at the Police station rather than anything that happened at Speakers Corner ? ---------------------------------------------------------- 'Having arrived at Charing Cross Police station, Ms Tash was then needlessly strip-searched, which her lawyers later said breached her Article 3 European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) rights. Officers also deliberately removed her glasses so that she could not see. Having deprived the woman whose belongings had been stolen of sleep, officers then interrogated her at 4am. After 15 hours in custody she was released and told there would be no further action. She was not given any assistance to retrieve her belongings from Speakers’ Corner'. ----------------------------------------------------- And perhaps throwing in an extra few quid for an arguably excessive amount of time that she was kept in custody. The T shirt and the 'holey' rather than holy Koran didn't help her cause, and appear to have resulted in her falling foul of the Public Order Act. If she instead leaves her offensive 'props' at home and confines herself to arguing her case, it should be to the benefit of all involved. Offensive props? Again I ask who advocated murder or violence or actually committed it because of the screening of the life of Brian. This is speakers corner with a long tradition in country that allows that and so no it doesn’t come under public order act,she was robbed and was arrested she has also been stabbed and the perpetrator never brought to book. Look at this lone Jewish woman in Germany after being attacked she was allowed to protest protected by the police,we should be ashamed the same hasn’t happened here. x.com/AzatAlsalim/status/1830927654301622533 |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 26, 2024 14:47:31 GMT
Speakers corner should be protected as a place of free speech not hate speech as one or two have already found out.The problem of course is difference in cultures,so rather than admit it as it will open a can of worms confuse the plebs on what is free speech and what is hate speech
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Post by Orac on Sept 26, 2024 14:57:35 GMT
Speakers corner should be protected as a place of free speech not hate speech as one or two have already found out.The problem of course is difference in cultures,so rather than admit it as it will open a can of worms confuse the plebs on what is free speech and what is hate speech 'Hate speech' as a concept only appeared as a reaction to the mass entry of people. The whole thing needs to be torn down. If you come to this country, part of the price of entry is putting up with people taking the piss of you, just not liking you or not taking your cherished beliefs seriously. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 26, 2024 17:03:24 GMT
Speakers corner should be protected as a place of free speech not hate speech as one or two have already found out.The problem of course is difference in cultures,so rather than admit it as it will open a can of worms confuse the plebs on what is free speech and what is hate speech 'Hate speech' as a concept only appeared as a reaction to the mass entry of people. The whole thing needs to be torn down. If you come to this country, part of the price of entry is putting up with people taking the piss of you, just not liking you or not taking your cherished beliefs seriously. Won't happen, because that means admitting all the wrongs over the years, nobody puts their hands up instead just carry on regardless |
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Post by bancroft on Sept 26, 2024 18:24:41 GMT
There must of been prior notice of her intention to speak as just too many of those that look either Muslim or non-English.
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Post by Orac on Sept 26, 2024 18:31:35 GMT
There must of been prior notice of her intention to speak as just too many of those that look either Muslim or non-English. I think that's pretty par for speaker's corner these days. |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 26, 2024 18:31:50 GMT
There must of been prior notice of her intention to speak as just too many of those that look either Muslim or non-English. You think? Look on the web they’re there every day preaching Islam. |
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