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Post by piglet on Dec 4, 2022 14:29:19 GMT
Portillo was once touted as a Tory leader and rightly so. He now has a sunday morning programme on GB News, and its excellent, im sure he produces it too. He has a calm stetesman like approach, lacking in expressed emotion, and can look clinically at problems, free from insidious party tribalism.
And a high intelligence, and high emotional intelligence, an adult. A sad loss to this country, and the Tories.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 4, 2022 18:04:09 GMT
Well the reason he is free from insidious party tribalism is that he is no longer a politician - back in the day when he was there was a politician there was no shortage of insidious party tribalism.
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Post by piglet on Dec 5, 2022 12:24:29 GMT
Wow, thanks Pacifico, i need your guidance. Of course the BBC were in for Portillo too.
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Post by patman post on Dec 5, 2022 20:10:45 GMT
Wasn’t Portillo one of Thatcher’s minor vegetables….?
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Post by piglet on Dec 5, 2022 22:38:21 GMT
No, the labour party took that prize.
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Post by Handyman on Dec 6, 2022 12:32:06 GMT
No, the labour party took that prize.
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Post by bancroft on Dec 6, 2022 20:32:32 GMT
Back in the day Portillo agreed to live with a single parent family and two kids on benefits for a week.
I think it was this that made him step down from politics.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 16, 2022 3:50:18 GMT
Wow, thanks Pacifico, i need your guidance. Of course the BBC were in for Portillo too. But it's true you pillock. Most people (Who aren't afflicted with woke) say Portillo speaks more sense now than when he was in office. Do you remember Andrew Neil with Diane Abbott and Michael Portillo? It was epic. Abbott was always a left wing racist prat, and Portillo was always good value, but only because he was not restrained by party politics.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 16, 2022 8:13:11 GMT
It was epic. Andrew Neil was great Portillo was always great. And Diane Abbot was always hilarious.
It's no wonder she's not a front bencher anymore.
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 16, 2022 8:19:56 GMT
Portillo was once touted as a Tory leader and rightly so. He now has a sunday morning programme on GB News, and its excellent, im sure he produces it too. He has a calm stetesman like approach, lacking in expressed emotion, and can look clinically at problems, free from insidious party tribalism. And a high intelligence, and high emotional intelligence, an adult. A sad loss to this country, and the Tories. His problem is that he's up against Richard Tice on Sunday Morning, who's better (IMO). It's also a pity that "The Political Correction" seems to have gone. That was also better than Portillo. But I agree, Portillo's a good broadcaster.
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Post by dappy on Dec 16, 2022 15:26:57 GMT
Portillo was an unloved character before losing his seat in the first Blair landslide and seemed to undergo quite a transformation.
The Andrew Neill show with him and Abbott was generally interesting, offering interesting insights from both sides and contrary to this thread, Abbott more than held her own. Sadly I presume the producer changed and the programme tried to do "comedy" which was almost invariably toecurling.
Like many politicians before and after from both sides, Portillo came across as a much more likeable more rounded human being when allowed to be himself rather than a party politician. The question should be asked how and why do we do that to our politicians?
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Post by Vinny on Dec 17, 2022 16:48:13 GMT
Politicians are there to be served, to be hired and fired.
Sometimes its necessary to uncouple the job from the person, especially if that person has left the elected job, by choice and chosen a different career.
I think plenty of people who hate Boris, would have loved him had he not returned to the Commons, and instead pursued a career in television. At TV, just as Michael Portillo is extremely good at television, Boris is extremely good at it too.
If this programme had been the start of a change in direction in the life of Boris, it would have been a good thing.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 5, 2023 19:43:01 GMT
Back in the day Portillo agreed to live with a single parent family and two kids on benefits for a week. I think it was this that made him step down from politics. Are you SURE about that I think you will find Matthew Parris took up ‘world in action’s’ challenge to survive for a week on a single man’s SSP - the sun paid back in tbe 70s when you em went through all the hoops signed on, got refused UB40 through insufficient NI and got told to sign up for SSP I recall Parris being deprived of his wallet, cards etc being handed a paltry sum to survive on and having to get tokens for the meter I recall him sitting freezing in a dark, cold, unlit, unseated flat on a Friday night with nothing on the meter and no prospect of anything to supplement his zero finances until Mondays next payment and looking pretty miserable farting line buggery on his diet of eggs chips and beans. About eight years later the stupid bastardised volunteered to do it again This time he ran out of money by Wednesday night. And he insisted this was fine for the unemployed. What a dick
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2023 22:39:04 GMT
Wasn’t Portillo one of Thatcher’s minor vegetables….? LOL.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2023 22:47:14 GMT
Back in the day Portillo agreed to live with a single parent family and two kids on benefits for a week. I think it was this that made him step down from politics. Are you SURE about that I think you will find Matthew Parris took up ‘world in action’s’ challenge to survive for a week on a single man’s SSP - the sun paid back in tbe 70s when you em went through all the hoops signed on, got refused UB40 through insufficient NI and got told to sign up for SSP I recall Parris being deprived of his wallet, cards etc being handed a paltry sum to survive on and having to get tokens for the meter I recall him sitting freezing in a dark, cold, unlit, unseated flat on a Friday night with nothing on the meter and no prospect of anything to supplement his zero finances until Mondays next payment and looking pretty miserable farting line buggery on his diet of eggs chips and beans. About eight years later the stupid bastardised volunteered to do it again This time he ran out of money by Wednesday night. And he insisted this was fine for the unemployed. What a dick I remember listening to Mathew Paris talking about it, this was years later. I'm sure he said he accepted money from the camera crew which he bought food from a local shop with. He admitted he couldn't survive on the sum of money he was supposed to live on.
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