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Post by Vinny on Sept 1, 2024 17:14:10 GMT
Sack all diversity non job politician types from the NHS. Make surgeries and treatments that aren't actually health related something that the person wanting it must pay for.
No more free boob jobs or vaginoplasties for biological men.
No more free mastectomies for biological women unless they have breast cancer, or genetic risks of it.
No more free gender surgeries for kids and no more puberty blockers.
Treat people who are ill. Do not treat people who are not ill. They can go private.
Offer psychiatry services to those who currently have their bits lopped off.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 1, 2024 17:22:16 GMT
Sack all diversity non job politician types from the NHS. Make surgeries and treatments that aren't actually health related something that the person wanting it must pay for. No more free boob jobs or vaginoplasties for biological men. No more free mastectomies for biological women unless they have breast cancer, or genetic risks of it. No more free gender surgeries for kids and no more puberty blockers. Treat people who are ill. Do not treat people who are not ill. They can go private. Offer psychiatry services to those who currently have their bits lopped off. Erm, No.
Start by removing the legislation and government policy that requires those things in the first place.
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 2, 2024 0:34:54 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget.
If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives.
We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS.
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 2, 2024 6:12:39 GMT
It's simple. Stop treating people who aren't entitled to free treatment. The NHS needs to set up a department whose sole purpose is to check a patient's eligibility for NHS treatment. It's crazy to expect doctors and nurses to do this - it's a specialist job. They just tend to treat anyone who turns up. The amount of money saved would be huge.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 2, 2024 9:35:52 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. The NHS some years ago stated that the rise is Obesity in the UK is a ticking time bomb for them especially in the young and will cost a fortune to treat in the future as they get older , heart, joints, lungs etc. as they get older
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Post by witchfinder on Sept 2, 2024 10:49:29 GMT
Sack all diversity non job politician types from the NHS. Make surgeries and treatments that aren't actually health related something that the person wanting it must pay for. No more free boob jobs or vaginoplasties for biological men. No more free mastectomies for biological women unless they have breast cancer, or genetic risks of it. No more free gender surgeries for kids and no more puberty blockers. Treat people who are ill. Do not treat people who are not ill. They can go private. Offer psychiatry services to those who currently have their bits lopped off. How many "Diversity" type positions, jobs, managers or officers are there in the NHS ?, there are none anywhere around where I live, including in major regional hospitals, community hospitals, district general hospitals and psychiatric hospitals. I would tend to agree with removing a lot of cosmetic surgery from the NHS, however not entirely, and for very good reason. Its all very well people protesting about Transexuals, but whatever your views are, many, or most such people do genuinely, mentally and psychologically believe they are trapped in the wrong body, and you can argue as much as you want to, but I know that I am correct. So, you deny one of these people any chance of "Gender Re-allignment", which is only ever done after a long period of carefull consideration, and you then create a mountain of psychiatric and psychological problems which will HAVE TO be treated, at huge cost. To deny these people any chance of been who they believe they really are, will also lead to self harm, attempted suicide, suicide, and a lot of grief not only for the people themselves, but also for their loved ones and family. In the end, if you take away all opportunity for Transexual people to undergo surgery and treatment, you will not save anything, and in the long run it may cost the NHS more.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 2, 2024 12:03:15 GMT
I'm not protesting against transsexuals any more than I am protesting against women having boob jobs, facelifts or lip fillers.
Just saying that they should pay for it themselves.
The NHS is for curing cancer, heart disease etc.
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Post by Dogburger on Sept 2, 2024 13:11:13 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. Makes me wonder what happens when all these healthy people get older DD . All that does is push the cost onto dementia care and old peoples homes . Not to mention the extra cost of pensions , surely the cost effective way for the population in general would be for people to drop dead the day they retire ? Lets hear it for the fat fuckers ,smokers and alcoholics , the saviours of the nation , Hoorah!
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 2, 2024 14:12:45 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. Makes me wonder what happens when all these healthy people get older DD . All that does is push the cost onto dementia care and old peoples homes . Not to mention the extra cost of pensions , surely the cost effective way for the population in general would be for people to drop dead the day they retire ? Lets hear it for the fat fuckers ,smokers and alcoholics , the saviours of the nation , Hoorah! The healthy people pay for themselves because they aren't a drain on the rest of us. Our lifestyles choices are going to break the NHS... we will end up with a private system if we don't tackle this issue.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 2, 2024 17:05:37 GMT
Makes me wonder what happens when all these healthy people get older DD . All that does is push the cost onto dementia care and old peoples homes . Not to mention the extra cost of pensions , surely the cost effective way for the population in general would be for people to drop dead the day they retire ? Lets hear it for the fat fuckers ,smokers and alcoholics , the saviours of the nation , Hoorah! The healthy people pay for themselves because they aren't a drain on the rest of us. Our lifestyles choices are going to break the NHS... we will end up with a private system if we don't tackle this issue. So ban things like smoking? - slight problem that smoking-related illness cost the NHS around £2.5 billion, but the revenue from tobacco taxation comes in at around £8 billion. We would have even less money for the NHS if everyone stopped smoking. Obviously the sums would be better if we banned outfits like Greggs and McD's...
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 2, 2024 18:27:24 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. Actually, s I pointed out more than once on this site, obesity is actually a minor problem 24 hour care for fit bastards with vegetables where their brains once were, for decades, until they become the fittest corpse in the graveyard, is the real drain And preventing smokers from committing suicide decades before their time steals a huge surplus from the tax man
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Post by sandypine on Sept 4, 2024 12:13:48 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. You may be right but we are also importing those who are more prone to being fat fuckers. It seems to be at least 5% greater on average for black and northern subcontinent groups. So once again it makes no sense for government to demand action for a policy to help save the NHS money whilst in the same moment are following policies that are putting extra costs onto the NHS. A study by Public Health England (PHE) – a government body that’s been recently renamed The Office for Health Improvement and Disparities (OHID) – revealed that people from Black, Asian, and Minority Ethnic (BAME) backgrounds are more likely to be overweight or obese compared to the White population. Among adults, Black and Black British groups had the highest rates of obesity, followed by Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups. Additionally, children of Black African, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi descent had higher rates of excess weight compared to their White peers. getslimmr.co.uk/unravelling-the-complex-web-ethnic-minorities-and-obesity-in-the-uk-2/
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Post by Rebirth on Sept 4, 2024 12:17:53 GMT
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 6, 2024 0:20:40 GMT
Numbers wise they will amount to no more than a rounding error in the NHS budget. If we want to save the NHS we need to make the population lead more healthier lives. We are a nation of fat fuckers, and that is going to kill the NHS. Actually, s I pointed out more than once on this site, obesity is actually a minor problem 24 hour care for fit bastards with vegetables where their brains once were, for decades, until they become the fittest corpse in the graveyard, is the real drain And preventing smokers from committing suicide decades before their time steals a huge surplus from the tax man It costs the NHS £6.5b directly, a further £10b for diabetes and £27b to the economy... and this will nearly double by 2050. It is a ticking timebomb because widespread obesity is a relatively new thing, so the costs are just going to increase and increase as all these fat fuckers get older. Being a fat fucker causes diabetes, cancers, heart disease, strokes, mental health problems and fertility problems... that's a lot of costs they are expecting the rest of us to pick up.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 6, 2024 15:47:50 GMT
Actually, s I pointed out more than once on this site, obesity is actually a minor problem 24 hour care for fit bastards with vegetables where their brains once were, for decades, until they become the fittest corpse in the graveyard, is the real drain And preventing smokers from committing suicide decades before their time steals a huge surplus from the tax man It costs the NHS £6.5b directly, a further £10b for diabetes and £27b to the economy... and this will nearly double by 2050. It is a ticking timebomb because widespread obesity is a relatively new thing, so the costs are just going to increase and increase as all these fat fuckers get older. Being a fat fucker causes diabetes, cancers, heart disease, strokes, mental health problems and fertility problems... that's a lot of costs they are expecting the rest of us to pick up. Exactly the NHS have voiced their concerns about Obesity , it is on their website
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