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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 12:27:11 GMT
In a week-long, country wide operation just 75 illegals were detained! I tend to think Immigration Enforcement officers didn't put a lot of effort into this operation. Just last week the Home Office estimated that 1.5 million illegals were working in the black economy in this country, this week the government announce that '75' of them have been nicked! And Yvette Cooper our incompetent Home Secretary sounds pleased. And the thing is, these people will not be deported. Left wing lawyers will coach them what to say before they are released on bail never to be seen again, until they arrested again in a couple of years time when the whole process starts again. This pantomime must be costing £billions. link |
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Post by Dogburger on Aug 25, 2024 13:18:23 GMT
I reckon I could have got 75 in one night along my local high street . That it took a week along with a country wide operation shows that the immigrant Enforcement officers are a joke and not fit for purpose .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 25, 2024 13:30:40 GMT
In a week-long, country wide operation just 75 illegals were detained! I tend to think Immigration Enforcement officers didn't put a lot of effort into this operation. Just last week the Home Office estimated that 1.5 million illegals were working in the black economy in this country, this week the government announce that '75' of them have been nicked! And Yvette Cooper our incompetent Home Secretary sounds pleased. And the thing is, these people will not be deported. Left wing lawyers will coach them what to say before they are released on bail never to be seen again, until they arrested again in a couple of years time when the whole process starts again. This pantomime must be costing £billions. linkSo what would you do if you were her and put the plan into action, only to find the police crap on you. You want to look at our police force and see how totally deranged they have become. They are more interested in fiddling with their pride cars and flags. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 25, 2024 13:35:33 GMT
Immigration enforcement is not a police function. Perhaps it should be but it isn't. The only sure way to prevent illegal employment is to go after the employers, with big,big fines for a first offence and jail for the second. Deportation too if foreigners. The workers themselves just disappear back into the undergrowth until the next time.
The Times has an article today about a raid on a car-wash in Herne Hill. There were four arrest including an Iraqi asylum seeker with an ongoing appeal (who shouldn't be working) and a Romanian women who was deported last year and was back working in the same place ten days later.
The owner is a Kosovan who was fined £20 thousand the first time but never paid and just reopened in a different location.
The British are just too damned soft and trusting for their own good.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 25, 2024 15:15:22 GMT
Immigration enforcement is not a police function. Perhaps it should be but it isn't. The only sure way to prevent illegal employment is to go after the employers, with big,big fines for a first offence and jail for the second. Deportation too if foreigners. The workers themselves just disappear back into the undergrowth until the next time.
The Times has an article today about a raid on a car-wash in Herne Hill. There were four arrest including an Iraqi asylum seeker with an ongoing appeal (who shouldn't be working) and a Romanian women who was deported last year and was back working in the same place ten days later.
The owner is a Kosovan who was fined £20 thousand the first time but never paid and just reopened in a different location.
The British are just too damned soft and trusting for their own good.
So why is he not in prison? They send people to prison for non-payment of a couple of hundred quid TV licence fine, so how had he got a get out of jail free card from the police? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 25, 2024 15:50:44 GMT
It's very simple for foreigners to evade the authorities if they have a mind to. No identity cards, nor residence permits and a largely unarmed police who are not allowed to stop you in the street and demand to see your papers. Nor can they set up road-blocks to inspect any vehicle which takes their fancy. And when was the last time you saw a police officer on a bus or a train.
The personal freedoms and the trust-based society that Britons have come to regard as their birthright is a very easy thing for foreigners and those of foreign descent to take advantage of if they so wish.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 25, 2024 15:52:28 GMT
<abbr>delete - duplicate </abbr> |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 15:59:27 GMT
So what would you do if you were her and put the plan into action, only to find the police crap on you. You want to look at our police force and see how totally deranged they have become. They are more interested in fiddling with their pride cars and flags. Quite possibly. To be perfectly honest after a week long operation that only nicked 75 illegals [Out of a possible 1.5 million] I think the government would have been better off keeping quiet about it. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 16:08:47 GMT
Immigration enforcement is not a police function. Perhaps it should be but it isn't. The only sure way to prevent illegal employment is to go after the employers, with big,big fines for a first offence and jail for the second. Deportation too if foreigners. The workers themselves just disappear back into the undergrowth until the next time.
The Times has an article today about a raid on a car-wash in Herne Hill. There were four arrest including an Iraqi asylum seeker with an ongoing appeal (who shouldn't be working) and a Romanian women who was deported last year and was back working in the same place ten days later.
The owner is a Kosovan who was fined £20 thousand the first time but never paid and just reopened in a different location.
The British are just too damned soft and trusting for their own good.
I agree, to a point. Employers should be prosecuted. The problem is there's not enough emphasis on punishing and removing illegals and they know it, and as long as illegals know they wont be deported or even banged up in prison they will keep comming and yes, we are too damned soft. A situation which is unlikely to change under this left wing government. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Aug 25, 2024 17:12:43 GMT
122 businesses received civil penalties for employing illegal workers ... so there was something about the 75 detained illegal workers that warranted their arrest. How many others were not arrested but are no longer now working? Presuming the authorities targeted businesses about which they had information it is probably the case that a considerable number of illegal workers are no longer working ... including for many of the businesses that were not penalised but were employing illegal workers. When the authorities pounced some of the illegal workers were maybe not present at the time and could not be traced.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 28, 2024 22:17:56 GMT
Immigration enforcement is not a police function. Perhaps it should be but it isn't. The only sure way to prevent illegal employment is to go after the employers, with big,big fines for a first offence and jail for the second. Deportation too if foreigners. The workers themselves just disappear back into the undergrowth until the next time.
The Times has an article today about a raid on a car-wash in Herne Hill. There were four arrest including an Iraqi asylum seeker with an ongoing appeal (who shouldn't be working) and a Romanian women who was deported last year and was back working in the same place ten days later.
The owner is a Kosovan who was fined £20 thousand the first time but never paid and just reopened in a different location.
The British are just too damned soft and trusting for their own good.
So why is he not in prison? They send people to prison for non-payment of a couple of hundred quid TV licence fine, so how had he got a get out of jail free card from the police? LOB again, you really do need to get out more "The use of a television receiver without a valid licence can lead to prosecution, a court appearance and a fine of up to £1,000. In some cases, where there is a refusal to pay the fine and where all other enforcement methods have been tried, a person can be sent to jail." Plus Police do not send commit anyone to Prison never have, that is the sole preserve of the Courts as it always has been |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 28, 2024 22:30:55 GMT
So why is he not in prison? They send people to prison for non-payment of a couple of hundred quid TV licence fine, so how had he got a get out of jail free card from the police? LOB again, you really do need to get out more "The use of a television receiver without a valid licence can lead to prosecution, a court appearance and a fine of up to £1,000. In some cases, where there is a refusal to pay the fine and where all other enforcement methods have been tried, a person can be sent to jail." Plus Police do not send commit anyone to Prison never have, that is the sole preserve of the Courts as it always has been There was nothing wrong with what I said. I think you misunderstood it and read more into it than I had written. |
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