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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 19, 2024 7:16:56 GMT
Yet again the BBC are trotting out this statistic and saying it's disgraceful and racist etc. But, of course, it doesn't mean that the police are necessarily racially prejudiced. They're searching the children for knives and drugs and it's not impossible that Black children are 4 times more likely to be carrying these.
What they need to do is to carry out random searches of children and record how many were Black and how many were carrying illegal knives/drugs. That's the only way to check, I think. I suspect that they would find that the Blacks are indeed over-represented in this crime.
But they'll never do this of course. They're more likely to tell the police to ensure that a disproportionate number of Blacks aren't searched.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 19, 2024 7:22:54 GMT
Considering that 50% of them are found to be carrying something illegal seems the Police targeting is correct.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 19, 2024 9:13:24 GMT
Use airport style body scanners.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 19, 2024 9:24:09 GMT
Use airport style body scanners. You can look under people's clothes with a special camera. To get around privacy concerns you design the system not to so humans can look, but so the machine can simply flag up "gun", "knife", "explosives" and anything else they are looking for. Then what you do is you conceal it on a busy street and move it from one street to another where problems are suspected.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 19, 2024 13:12:04 GMT
I suspect this will be in areas of the UK where one could play ‘ spot the white man’ for hours . So we might be looking at a case of discrimination against whites.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 19, 2024 13:55:45 GMT
I suspect this will be in areas of the UK where one could play ‘ spot the white man’ for hours . So we might be looking at a case of discrimination against whites. Yes I think that's the main point. These children who are strip searched are in schools where crime is endemic - especially knives and drugs - so we're talking about black areas mainly. Mainly London I'd guess. I wonder how many children are strip searched in schools in the West Country. I'd guess none. So the fact that a disproportionate number of Blacks are strip searched is not surprising.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 19, 2024 14:35:26 GMT
I suspect this will be in areas of the UK where one could play ‘ spot the white man’ for hours . So we might be looking at a case of discrimination against whites. Yes I think that's the main point. These children who are strip searched are in schools where crime is endemic - especially knives and drugs - so we're talking about black areas mainly. Mainly London I'd guess. I wonder how many children are strip searched in schools in the West Country. I'd guess none. So the fact that a disproportionate number of Blacks are strip searched is not surprising. In other words , it’s probably a spin to make a disproportionate higher number of whites being searched to seem like a disproportionately higher number of blacks being searched
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 19, 2024 14:52:18 GMT
Yet again the BBC are trotting out this statistic and saying it's disgraceful and racist etc. But, of course, it doesn't mean that the police are necessarily racially prejudiced. They're searching the children for knives and drugs and it's not impossible that Black children are 4 times more likely to be carrying these. What they need to do is to carry out random searches of children and record how many were Black and how many were carrying illegal knives/drugs. That's the only way to check, I think. I suspect that they would find that the Blacks are indeed over-represented in this crime. But they'll never do this of course. They're more likely to tell the police to ensure that a disproportionate number of Blacks aren't searched. I would have thought 1 in 4 was pretty low. That means 75% of kids searched for knives are white yet areas or boroughs where knife crime is a problem are often described by woke lefties as wonderfully diverse. In many London boroughs white people are a minority so why are so many white kids being strip searched?
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Post by bancroft on Aug 19, 2024 15:39:16 GMT
The thing is the Blacks take some C class drug that is so pungent it stinks, you can tell which property as you walk past.
School kids (british) report this in class and of course sometimes the police investigate though adults cannot always tell it is the C class drug.
Now the black class mate might not take the stuff but at home it is heavily used tainting the kids clothes.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 20, 2024 7:12:30 GMT
Yet again the BBC are trotting out this statistic and saying it's disgraceful and racist etc. But, of course, it doesn't mean that the police are necessarily racially prejudiced. They're searching the children for knives and drugs and it's not impossible that Black children are 4 times more likely to be carrying these. What they need to do is to carry out random searches of children and record how many were Black and how many were carrying illegal knives/drugs. That's the only way to check, I think. I suspect that they would find that the Blacks are indeed over-represented in this crime. But they'll never do this of course. They're more likely to tell the police to ensure that a disproportionate number of Blacks aren't searched. I would have thought 1 in 4 was pretty low. That means 75% of kids searched for knives are white yet areas or boroughs where knife crime is a problem are often described by woke lefties as wonderfully diverse. In many London boroughs white people are a minority so why are so many white kids being strip searched? I think I may have got the title of the post wrong RR. Oops. I think I may have meant black kids are 4 times more likely to get strip searched than whites. That makes more sense. Apologies.
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Post by piglet on Aug 22, 2024 11:18:16 GMT
This highlights a confusion, the confusion of racism and culture. People who move here may have a culture that does not fit into the culture of Britain like drugs. Drugs here are illegal, yet to police that, to arrest such is interpreted as racism.
And yet the culture of people who move here is to be respected. The Muslim culture is a prime example, misogeny is rife, the abuse of wowen is routine, yet on another level, that of immigration, all is ok, and that the UK laws are not applicable.
When they are. Muslims have a different attitude to government, all ok, etc. But that way is not british. See how serious problems are manifest but are not addressed, and indeed erode the british culture, Muslims, afro carribean etc are not becoming british, the british are becoming governed by imported cultures. And its what the government wants, the reds and blues.
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Post by piglet on Aug 22, 2024 11:20:19 GMT
Its the british who are being targeted by racism. Our values are being destroyed.
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Post by piglet on Aug 22, 2024 11:23:44 GMT
What id like to see is what the nazis did to catch jews, corrall a large number of people so they cant escape, black and white, then search the lot. God knows what that would throw up, they would need dozens of vans. Any inner Birmingham neighbourhood would qualify.
If the police were serious about upholding the law.
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Post by Orac on Aug 22, 2024 14:15:41 GMT
What id like to see is what the nazis did to catch jews, corrall a large number of people so they cant escape, black and white, then search the lot. God knows what that would throw up, they would need dozens of vans. Any inner Birmingham neighbourhood would qualify. If the police were serious about upholding the law. There would be little point performing this police operation in Tunbridge Wells So - "The police are choosing to do this in an area dominated by minority people..that's racist"
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 23, 2024 6:43:12 GMT
The Left are implacably opposed to any kind of "profiling", but particularly racial profiling. Unfortunately there simply aren't enough police to go around stopping large numbers of people so they HAVE to profile.
I remember a few years ago when I was regularly traveling to Europe that there was a time when we all had to take our shoes off to have them scanned for hidden explosives - I think IIRC it was after the "shoe bomber". So we ALL had to mess around taking our shoes off. Crazy. But it wouldn't have been PC for security to just select people at random - like all bearded Asians for example.
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