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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 10:02:40 GMT
Apart from selected groups like Afghans and Ukrainians, there are no legal routes into the UK to claim asylum, as Suella Braverman has herself been forced to admit under questioning from a fellow Tory MP. Asylum claims at British embassies are clearly not a legal means to enter the country because people have to enter the country to have such claims processed. I suggest you look at this.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhN6YIsOUIWrong. Most countries have airports. Most countries have embassies. Any asylum seeker may go to a British embassy and seek asylum. They do not have to pay gangsters. You didnt even listen to it did you? Trying to debate with the wilfully ignorant is a fruitless waste of time. And no, applying for asylum at embassies will not get you into the country to be properly assessed. And you cannot just get on a plane without some kind of visa
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Post by Vinny on Dec 5, 2022 10:15:26 GMT
1) Alexander Litvinenko just got on a plane and claimed asylum when he got off the plane. Think about it. This man was an asylum seeker and then a refugee: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko2) Beggars cannot be choosers. Any safe country is a safe country. Seek asylum in the first safe country you come to. If that isn't enough, go to a British embassy and seek consular asylum.
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Post by dappy on Dec 5, 2022 12:19:32 GMT
Vinny, you can’t walk into a British Embassy in say Athens and ask for asylum in the UK. If they could had it not occurred to you that those wishing to claim asylum in the UK would do just that.
Not sure we need another thread on asylum tbh but in respect of the OP, why is a new party needed - what is wrong with Reform, UKIP, For Britain, Heritage, Reclaim (still going??) , Etc etc. surely those from that end of the spectrum need to consolidate as one entity not further divide and fight with each other?
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 5, 2022 12:32:34 GMT
I don't know how many times Vinny et al have to be told that asylum claims can only be accepted from claimants who are physically in the UK. Overseas embassies and consulates are not authorised to accept asylum claims.
As for a 'third party', as dappy notes there is no shortage of would-be 'anti-immigration' parties to choose from. What's missing is a potential leader with the charisma and of the calibre of an Enoch Powell.
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Post by dappy on Dec 5, 2022 12:55:47 GMT
What is Nick Griffin up to these days, Dan….
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 5, 2022 13:48:50 GMT
Nick's a wily operator for sure, but not what I'd call charismatic. Therein lies a large part of the reason behind the BNP's demise.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 5, 2022 18:48:39 GMT
I don't know how many times Vinny et al have to be told that asylum claims can only be accepted from claimants who are physically in the UK. Overseas embassies and consulates are not authorised to accept asylum claims. As for a 'third party', as dappy notes there is no shortage of would-be 'anti-immigration' parties to choose from. What's missing is a potential leader with the charisma and of the calibre of an Enoch Powell. Totally. It's the same on every thread about immigration. They don't listen and it's really hard to have a conversation. Every time they get corrected, their misunderstandings appear on a different thread. It's so tiresome. And it isn't just Vinny, it's others too.
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Post by borchester on Dec 5, 2022 19:41:00 GMT
I don't know how many times Vinny et al have to be told that asylum claims can only be accepted from claimants who are physically in the UK. Overseas embassies and consulates are not authorised to accept asylum claims. As for a 'third party', as dappy notes there is no shortage of would-be 'anti-immigration' parties to choose from. What's missing is a potential leader with the charisma and of the calibre of an Enoch Powell. Totally. It's the same on every thread about immigration. They don't listen and it's really hard to have a conversation. Every time they get corrected, their misunderstandings appear on a different thread. It's so tiresome. And it isn't just Vinny, it's others too. And Enoch Powell wasn't really Enoch Powell. He exposed the horrors of Hola camp where Mau Mau detainees were tortured and killed, encouraged mixed marriages (almost unheard of in the Tory party in the 1950s and 60s) and generally acted like a fully paid up member of the awkward squad.
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Post by see2 on Dec 5, 2022 21:07:02 GMT
I don't know how many times Vinny et al have to be told that asylum claims can only be accepted from claimants who are physically in the UK. Overseas embassies and consulates are not authorised to accept asylum claims. As for a 'third party', as dappy notes there is no shortage of would-be 'anti-immigration' parties to choose from. What's missing is a potential leader with the charisma and of the calibre of an Enoch Powell. Who might break international laws in order to achieve something, BUT who would go on to destroy the best of Britain as most people know it.
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