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Post by patman post on Aug 16, 2024 19:30:34 GMT
Came back from visiting friends near Westerham with some freshly shot pigeons visible in a plastic bag — Mrs makes excellent pigeon pie — when a neighbour from up the road complained and threatened to report me for shooting protected wildlife. WTF!!!
I do have a shotgun, but leave it at a friends’ house, but I didn’t shoot these birds — our friends did, that morning. Besides as these birds are regarded as pests, I reckon it’s better to enjoy them rather than let them rot on the ground. Same with rabbit.
Strikes me that some people are just too squeamish and right-on to be real…
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2024 20:32:18 GMT
My Dad used to shoot wood pigeons at the weekend and we would eat them. Mostly the breast, but other parts can be eaten. Not had any for years. The meat has a deep flavour, not to everyone's taste. Your neighbour needs to mind their own business and read up on the Wildlife and Countryside Acts.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 16, 2024 21:11:13 GMT
Came back from visiting friends near Westerham with some freshly shot pigeons visible in a plastic bag — Mrs makes excellent pigeon pie — when a neighbour from up the road complained and threatened to report me for shooting protected wildlife. WTF!!! I do have a shotgun, but leave it at a friends’ house, but I didn’t shoot these birds — our friends did, that morning. Besides as these birds are regarded as pests, I reckon it’s better to enjoy them rather than let them rot on the ground. Same with rabbit. Strikes me that some people are just too squeamish and right-on to be real… Interesting, but I have to ask, what in the wide wide world of sport has pigeon pie, as delicious as I'm sure it is, got to do with politics?
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2024 21:11:59 GMT
I’ve eaten Pigeon years ago , stewed and fried ( or was it baked?) . I’ve eaten pigeon eggs too. The pigeons round my way are so fat that the fences rattle when they land on them. They regularly get tagged by passing cars and lorries so the crows are fat too. I should by a 22 air rifle just to tuck away in case of a catastrophe. I could shoot and eat them.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 17, 2024 6:14:53 GMT
I don't think pigeons are protected. Certainly farmers are allowed to shoot them to prevent them eating their seed/crops. I think the EU introduced a law which said that the pigeons had to be warned off before being you can shoot them, but that's pointless because they always come back within a few minutes - they're very persistent buggers. Of course you can always argue (if you shoot them with an airgun) that the pigeons got a warning before they were hit by the bullet, as the bullet travels slower than the speed of sound.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 17, 2024 6:40:12 GMT
Came back from visiting friends near Westerham with some freshly shot pigeons visible in a plastic bag — Mrs makes excellent pigeon pie — when a neighbour from up the road complained and threatened to report me for shooting protected wildlife. WTF!!! I do have a shotgun, but leave it at a friends’ house, but I didn’t shoot these birds — our friends did, that morning. Besides as these birds are regarded as pests, I reckon it’s better to enjoy them rather than let them rot on the ground. Same with rabbit. Strikes me that some people are just too squeamish and right-on to be real… Interesting, but I have to ask, what in the wide wide world of sport has pigeon pie, as delicious as I'm sure it is, got to do with politics? Well a pidgeon called walter was used to great effect in a movie by Roosevelt as propaganda to commit the US people to WW2 it was called Mrs Miniver. I don't think pigeons are protected. Certainly farmers are allowed to shoot them to prevent them eating their seed/crops. I think the EU introduced a law which said that the pigeons had to be warned off before being you can shoot them, but that's pointless because they always come back within a few minutes - they're very persistent buggers. Of course you can always argue (if you shoot them with an airgun) that the pigeons got a warning before they were hit by the bullet, as the bullet travels slower than the speed of sound. Well you could shout out a warning and if anyone objected that they couldn’t understand you could say you used pidgin English
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 8:54:24 GMT
I don't think pigeons are protected. Certainly farmers are allowed to shoot them to prevent them eating their seed/crops. I think the EU introduced a law which said that the pigeons had to be warned off before being you can shoot them, but that's pointless because they always come back within a few minutes - they're very persistent buggers. Of course you can always argue (if you shoot them with an airgun) that the pigeons got a warning before they were hit by the bullet, as the bullet travels slower than the speed of sound. Very droll.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 17, 2024 9:06:18 GMT
Came back from visiting friends near Westerham with some freshly shot pigeons visible in a plastic bag — Mrs makes excellent pigeon pie — when a neighbour from up the road complained and threatened to report me for shooting protected wildlife. WTF!!! I do have a shotgun, but leave it at a friends’ house, but I didn’t shoot these birds — our friends did, that morning. Besides as these birds are regarded as pests, I reckon it’s better to enjoy them rather than let them rot on the ground. Same with rabbit. Strikes me that some people are just too squeamish and right-on to be real… I think you need a general licence to shoot pigeons and there is the problem of ringed birds which are usually actual property. I do not think eating them after legal shooting is a problem. It may be your neighbour made an assumption too far they are not protected as such but it is illegal to kill any wild birds without that general licence.
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Post by patman post on Aug 17, 2024 9:54:19 GMT
Came back from visiting friends near Westerham with some freshly shot pigeons visible in a plastic bag — Mrs makes excellent pigeon pie — when a neighbour from up the road complained and threatened to report me for shooting protected wildlife. WTF!!! I do have a shotgun, but leave it at a friends’ house, but I didn’t shoot these birds — our friends did, that morning. Besides as these birds are regarded as pests, I reckon it’s better to enjoy them rather than let them rot on the ground. Same with rabbit. Strikes me that some people are just too squeamish and right-on to be real… Interesting, but I have to ask, what in the wide wide world of sport has pigeon pie, as delicious as I'm sure it is, got to do with politics? What do you reckon is ‘Politics’? Seems to me that almost every aspect of daily life is affected by rules, regulations restrictions, recommendations, etc, that have been debated and legislated on. So the fact that a neighbour (politics and dietary affiliations unknown) thought I was engaged in something reportable came across as ‘political’ enough to stir me to comment…
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Post by bancroft on Aug 17, 2024 10:16:09 GMT
My Dad used to shoot wood pigeons at the weekend and we would eat them. Mostly the breast, but other parts can be eaten. Not had any for years. The meat has a deep flavour, not to everyone's taste. Your neighbour needs to mind their own business and read up on the Wildlife and Countryside Acts. You should have used an opaque bag, too many people like the birds, I blame Mary Poppins Now not sure on the official line on eating wild pigeons I guess some might state there is a health risk although if cooked well and all the organs are removed that should not be a problem.
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Post by patman post on Aug 17, 2024 13:18:41 GMT
My Dad used to shoot wood pigeons at the weekend and we would eat them. Mostly the breast, but other parts can be eaten. Not had any for years. The meat has a deep flavour, not to everyone's taste. Your neighbour needs to mind their own business and read up on the Wildlife and Countryside Acts. You should have used an opaque bag, too many people like the birds, I blame Mary Poppins Now not sure on the official line on eating wild pigeons I guess some might state there is a health risk although if cooked well and all the organs are removed that should not be a problem. I think plump countryside wood pigeons are OK — it's the feral flying city rats that might cause problems if consumed by humans, though many local authorities are trying to combat them (pigeons, not people — though with Hackney that's not certain**).
After filleting, Mrs uses the breast for a pie, then boils the rest for stock — though we've also had them roasted...
**Trying to insert some politics there for RR's sake.
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Post by piglet on Aug 18, 2024 11:21:20 GMT
Many years ago i was driving along and had to swerve to avoid a pigeon in the road, it didnt try to dodge, i stopped, caught the pigeon with some difficulty. This was about 1-30, i spent the afternoon in an office, getting out about 5, the pigeon was in the back of the car, i had phoned a vet and was going there.
The back seat was covered in pigeon shit.
The vet examined it, and said that there was nothing wrong, its crop was full, it was just stuffed, he threw it into the air.
It flew off.
I feed the birds daily, no miss, many ring necked doves come, pigeons . There is a lot of road kill of all sorts, pigeons are common, when they sense danger, the approach of a car, there is a delay, many are hit. Whats the point of this?, i am no being critical, we are who we are, but the death of any living thing is abhorrent to me, pigeons, humans, its all the same to me. The death of a pigeon might as well be the death of a human. I give worms on paths lifts to grass. I rescue drowning insects.
One day, you will need a helping hand. There is the hitchikeres guide to the galaxy, is uses the analogy of aliens, being so advanced it doesnt notice the death of the earth as it constructs an alien highway. Much like toady, the M1 M6 etc ushered in a wild life apocalypse.
Yet i eat meat, my father was a butcher, and all that entails. There is no winning.
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 18, 2024 21:57:45 GMT
I have not eaten pigeon.
While freelancing I stayed at a farmhouse where the farmer shot a load of mallard on his lake
A very nice butcher we bought most of our meat from did the necessary on the corpses of eight for 50p
Unlike most duck in the shops they were very lean.
Mum and dad and Moira and I quite enjoyed them.
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Post by piglet on Aug 19, 2024 10:28:07 GMT
I should say that i am religious, and there is the good samaritan thing, would i pass you by john, in the event of you needing help, no. Would a Mallard pass by that farmer in need of help?. If he has shot in him, probably. Any help afforded though would only be a quack or two.
The analogy is correct though. Show mercy and you will recieve it. If i ever need help, im sure there will be a queue, indeed, i had a bad illness, that now has dissapeared, coincidence? who knows. When passing, good people suffer less, if at all.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 19, 2024 11:27:57 GMT
Pigeons are pests, the rats of the skies,but unlike rats they're edible.
Glad they didn't go to waste they're rather tasty.
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