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Post by sheepy on Aug 15, 2024 18:47:59 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Aug 16, 2024 7:45:19 GMT
It will be about 40,000 this year on the boats if the weather holds and about the same next year. Legal migration will stay high this year and increase a little next year. Most who arrived will be able to stay in some form or other and social housing in some form or other will be pressured and many areas will have unknown newcomers, mostly young males, in their midst with private landlords coining it through government programmes. 2 years in and we will know how successful Labour have been in their policies both stated and hidden.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 16, 2024 9:02:24 GMT
To accommodate 1.5 million new migrants and their offspring - around two years 'production' at current rates - will require the construction of around 16 new towns the size of Harlow.
Assuming a similar population density (8000/sq mile) to Harlow the sixteen new towns will cover an area of around 200 sq miles, or an area four times the size of Manchester.
Then in two years time they'll need to do the same again, and again every two years after that as long as the immigrant and immigrant-descended population continues to expand at the current rate.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 16, 2024 9:07:45 GMT
To accommodate 1.5 million new migrants and their offspring - around two years 'production' at current rates - will require the construction of around 16 new towns the size of Harlow. Assuming a similar population density (8000/sq mile) to Harlow the sixteen new towns will cover an area of around 200 sq miles, or an area four times the size of Manchester. Then in two years time they'll need to do the same again, and again every two years after that as long as the immigrant and immigrant-descended population continues to expand at the current rate. It seems to indicate a lack of government planning or an extreme form of government planning. Whatever it is it is on course to happen and all those years we spent getting rid of the slums will have been a complete waste as the new slums will arise unbidden.
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Post by piglet on Aug 16, 2024 9:20:12 GMT
All of britain is becoming a slum. Starmer said he will stop the gangs, how is it going? No information, its all a con. You aint seen nothing yet.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 16, 2024 9:28:14 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Aug 16, 2024 9:36:07 GMT
I cannot see it being anything else, allowing houses to become multiple occupancy was exactly how some really rather magnificent Glasgow dwellings became the slums of the early 20th century. Migration was the problem then and it is the problem now.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 16, 2024 9:36:20 GMT
Building on farmland means less food.
More people and less food means increased long term risk of famine. This "refugees welcome" nonsense will end in tears. Not only are a good proportion of them not refugees, we haven't the room. And it's not to be nasty, but how do we feed and clothe and shelter all the newcomers when we can't even do that for everyone born here?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 16, 2024 9:40:58 GMT
Building on farmland means less food. More people and less food means increased long term risk of famine. This "refugees welcome" nonsense will end in tears. Not only are a good proportion of them not refugees, we haven't the room. And it's not to be nasty, but how do we feed and clothe and shelter all the newcomers when we can't even do that for everyone born here? There can be no other assumption than the government do not care and the needs of British Citizens takes second place to the myth of international obligations. Why that should be is anyone's guess, why government's build up such immense problems for themselves and us is in the realms of lunacy but it is unbelievably happening right in front of us.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 16, 2024 10:08:11 GMT
I spent a bit of time there in the late 90's around council estates, and it was grim. Like most overflow towns back in the 70's, it'd been pleasant. Fast forward 30 yrs on, on those same pleasant towns have dramatically morphed into shit tips. One overflow market town I used to live in (Hemel Hempstead) was quite pleasant back in the 80's. Ever since your mates in Brussels came marauding in with their FoM, most shops now are Polish or boarded up. Many shops in the town center have a 'no chase thief policy'. In other words, lift something and run and there's a good chance you'll get away scot free for your troubles.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 17, 2024 11:02:00 GMT
To accommodate 1.5 million new migrants and their offspring - around two years 'production' at current rates - will require the construction of around 16 new towns the size of Harlow. Assuming a similar population density (8000/sq mile) to Harlow the sixteen new towns will cover an area of around 200 sq miles, or an area four times the size of Manchester. Then in two years time they'll need to do the same again, and again every two years after that as long as the immigrant and immigrant-descended population continues to expand at the current rate. I think that's the problem, nobody actually has put it into any kind of perspective, while carrying on regardless without a thought about any outcome.
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