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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 13, 2024 7:05:26 GMT
Starmer seems to have decided that people should be prosecuted for posting "misinformation" - which does slightly open the flood gates to malicious prosecution of people who post stuff that he doesn't like. He's also apparently thinking of approving the APPG definition of "islamophobia" which defines it as a "racist" attack on "muslimness" - which sounds like it was drafted by a 5 year old. Nevertheless this opens up the door to prosecuting people for criticising the religion of islam.
He's also reconsidering the censoring of "legal but harmful" content. It's slightly reminiscent of the police investigating people for "non-crime hate incidents" - i.e. things that are not illegal but that someone has deemed to exhibit "hate". "Legal but harmful" attempst to catch people saying things that are perfectly legal (and accurate/true) but someone doesn't think they should be said because they may cause some people to react badly. So, I imagine, if someone tweeted that a terrorist attack was perpetrated by a muslim, they could be prosecuted even if the statement is accurate if, say, the tweet is deemed to have started a riot.
Starmer is opening a very big can of worms here. It occurs to me that the Koran itself would breach most of these new laws (on every page), but obviously it would get an exemption (!). Of course.
I'm wondering if the mods have any advice for would-be posters on how not to fall foul of this latest Starmer nonsense.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 8:01:25 GMT
Starmer seems to have decided that people should be prosecuted for posting "misinformation" - which does slightly open the flood gates to malicious prosecution of people who post stuff that he doesn't like. He's also apparently thinking of approving the APPG definition of "islamophobia" which defines it as a "racist" attack on "muslimness" - which sounds like it was drafted by a 5 year old. Nevertheless this opens up the door to prosecuting people for criticising the religion of islam. He's also reconsidering the censoring of "legal but harmful" content. It's slightly reminiscent of the police investigating people for "non-crime hate incidents" - i.e. things that are not illegal but that someone has deemed to exhibit "hate". "Legal but harmful" attempst to catch people saying things that are perfectly legal (and accurate/true) but someone doesn't think they should be said because they may cause some people to react badly. So, I imagine, if someone tweeted that a terrorist attack was perpetrated by a muslim, they could be prosecuted even if the statement is accurate if, say, the tweet is deemed to have started a riot. Starmer is opening a very big can of worms here. It occurs to me that the Koran itself would breach most of these new laws (on every page), but obviously it would get an exemption (!). Of course. I'm wondering if the mods have any advice for would-be posters on how not to fall foul of this latest Starmer nonsense. It is obviously an authoritarian move. The UK has always been a place where the only obligation on a citizen is to obey the law. Now the 'law' is being extended into very subjective territory where the good of society and its cohesion (if that actually now exists) is a determinant on the rightness or wrongness of any utterance. It seems truth is not a parameter in this consideration. It is designed to scare opposition and to restrict speech that government does not approve of in pursuance of their policies. It is Sovietisation.
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Post by Dogburger on Aug 13, 2024 9:01:00 GMT
Quite clearly an attempt at censorship of right wing thought .
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 14, 2024 12:53:33 GMT
I see also that the EU has warned Elon Musk of the need to comply with the "EU Digital Rulebook". Under this legislation Musk's X platform must not broadcast "harmful" content - though what's meant by harmful content isn't defined. linkApparently Musk basically told them to sod off. But Musk can afford to. And in another attack on free speech one of the boxers who won gold in the Olympics - the Algerian bloke - has launched legal action against various people who questioned his legitimacy to compete as a woman. They've been accused of illegal online harassment. Trump and JK Rowling have allegedly been cited. SInce the bloke is biologically male this should be interesting. BTW both of the male boxers who competed as women in the French Olympics won gold. Presumably a no win-no fee firm of lawyers have taken the case on and hope to make a lot of money (for themselves). Crazy stuff.
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