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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2024 13:16:55 GMT
Can we expect a thorough review and investigation to find out which civil service clown gave this insect leave to stay in the uk - and on what basis? It's a fine statistical argument that to say there are bound to be a few really bad apples when we let so many in - but that avoids the question as to why we let so many in Of course, had we not let the Australians in they could never have got hurt. /sarcasm But that is the juvenile level of this argument. I can understand why we let tourists in to visit the country They come , they spend money and then they go.I have never had an adequate explanation as to why we importing and keeping large numbers of shitty people from shit-holes |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 13:27:45 GMT
Of course, had we not let the Australians in they could never have got hurt. /sarcasm But that is the juvenile level of this argument. I can understand why we let tourists in to visit the country They come , they spend money and then they go. I have never had an adequate explanation as to why we importing and keeping large numbers of shitty people from shit-holesYes you have: I have made it here several times. Two words: Cheap Labour It drives down wage inflation. It drives down job security. It drives up the cost of living. It drives up the cost of housing. It overwhelms Public Services, leading to calls for them to be privatised. All of which are strongly desired by the people our economy is there to serve - which is not, and never has been, you and me. All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2024 13:35:15 GMT
I see that little girl and her mother who were attacked in Leicester Square, by a Romanian immigrant, were Australians on the holiday of a lifetime. Thanks to immigration and multiculturalism it's certainly one holiday they will never forget. Can we expect a thorough review and investigation to find out which civil service clown gave this insect leave to stay in the uk - and on what basis? It's a fine statistical argument that to say there are bound to be a few really bad apples when we let so many in - but that avoids the question as to why we let so many in LOL, 'a thorough review and investigation', yes indeed, hope lives eternal. The assailant is an immigrant therefore his background will be hushed up, and anyone who speculates will be accused of being far-right and arrested by Starmers secret police. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2024 13:35:34 GMT
I can understand why we let tourists in to visit the country They come , they spend money and then they go. I have never had an adequate explanation as to why we importing and keeping large numbers of shitty people from shit-holesYes you have: I have made it here several times. Two words: Cheap Labour It drives down wage inflation. That could be achieved by using temporary visas. If they kick up any kind of problem at all, we can just load them straight on to a boat without an argument. Not an adequate explanation |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2024 13:40:19 GMT
It has also been reported that the little girl who Romanian immigrant Ioan Pintaru stabbed eight times in the face and neck, will need extensive plastic surgery. And no doubt years of support and counselling.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 15:06:20 GMT
Yes you have: I have made it here several times. Two words: Cheap Labour It drives down wage inflation. That could be achieved by using temporary visas. If they kick up any kind of problem at all, we can just load them straight on to a boat without an argument. Not an adequate explanation Yes, Wage Inflation could be achieved by temp visas; all the others need a longer term mechanism. It is primarily about driving up profit margins without requiring investment in improving goods and / or services. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 15:08:03 GMT
It has also been reported that the little girl who Romanian immigrant Ioan Pintaru stabbed eight times in the face and neck, will need extensive plastic surgery. And no doubt years of support and counselling. Which Ioan Pintaru should be paying for, by working on a "work gang" to generate the funds for. All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2024 15:24:00 GMT
It has also been reported that the little girl who Romanian immigrant Ioan Pintaru stabbed eight times in the face and neck, will need extensive plastic surgery. And no doubt years of support and counselling. Which Ioan Pintaru should be paying for, by working on a "work gang" to generate the funds for. All The Best Unlikely under a Tory government. Impossible under a minority appeasing Labour government. |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 14, 2024 15:25:07 GMT
Only in your mind. That similar happened in other nations does not change the FACT that it was Thatcher's Government that oversaw such in this country. BTW: I then went on, in another post, to blame New Labour for not attempting to fix things; so this has nothing to do with "lefty BS" - primarily because I am not a lefty. All The Best Incredible how you lefties continue to blame Mrs T for policies started in the 50s and early 60s and even incorrectly state , (as supposed fact but invented by lefties) that she closed ''all'' the MH facilities - I've previously referenced the '61 Water Tower speech , Maybe you lefties don't understand that 1961 was 18 years before 1979 , Mrs T left office 34 years ago and died more than 11 years ago? |
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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2024 15:41:00 GMT
That could be achieved by using temporary visas. If they kick up any kind of problem at all, we can just load them straight on to a boat without an argument. Not an adequate explanation Yes, Wage Inflation could be achieved by temp visas; all the others need a longer term mechanism. No All the others could also be achieved with temporary visas. |
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Post by Dogburger on Aug 14, 2024 16:27:17 GMT
Care in the community was just that , caring for people and helping them lead productive lives rather than rotting away in institutions . Thousands upon thousands of people with mental illness as well as downs syndrome (the happy people ) went on to have decent lives in their communities . What we are talking about had nothing to do with that , these people who have missed the net of being sectioned at some point in their lives which would normally happen as young people that can be detected by caring parents and medical professionals .With the right treatment most will be put back on the right path . When you have mass uncontrolled immigration there will obviously be some mental cases . They haven't grown up in our system that would have detected and treated them ,they have grown into Men with mental illnesses , sometimes with violent tendencies .Add to that many are coming from violent societies and the net result is that we are importing potential murderers into the UK without restrictions Care In The Community was nothing of the sort; I know people who were dumped on the street and left to fend for themselves. There are mental cases outside of the immigrant demographic as well. Why only demonise them? What is a "violent society"? Does hundreds of thugs attempting to burn people alive in a hotel not count? I am willing there are more murderers born in this country in UK prisons than those born outside this coutnry. So if this were genuinely about protecting people from murder you'd be looking there, at the "native population". But it isn't about that, its about finding semantic ways to legitimise racism. All The Best Well having parents who worked in the care industry at the time , they were at St Lawrence's Caterham one of the mental institutions highlighted as a poor place to be at pre care in the community I know the care people received outside those hospitals was far better than in them . All inmates /patients were assessed and placed in accommodations that were best suited for them . Im sorry if there were some people who you say said they were dumped on the street .Im sure that was not the norm but a rare case . Im not demonising immigrants , Im saying they haven't been picked up as mentally ill or had the guidance or care our own people have so are more likely to have an episode that leads to violent acts.Many are from war torn countries ,well that's what they tell us when seeking asylum ,that's what I mean when I say violent society's No doubt there are more murderers from the UK (I don't know but lets say its true) . These though are normally people who know each other , often family members . Those with mental issues who randomly kill people in the street though are more often than not of foreign extraction |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 16:53:29 GMT
Only in your mind. That similar happened in other nations does not change the FACT that it was Thatcher's Government that oversaw such in this country. BTW: I then went on, in another post, to blame New Labour for not attempting to fix things; so this has nothing to do with "lefty BS" - primarily because I am not a lefty. All The Best Incredible how you lefties continue to blame Mrs T for policies started in the 50s and early 60s and even incorrectly state , (as supposed fact but invented by lefties) that she closed ''all'' the MH facilities - I've previously referenced the '61 Water Tower speech , Maybe you lefties don't understand that 1961 was 18 years before 1979 , Mrs T left office 34 years ago and died more than 11 years ago? I am NOT a lefty. I have voted UKIP, Tory, BNP, Liberal, Labour and Independent over the years. I have voted Tory twice as often as I have voted Labour. All The Best |
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