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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 10, 2024 7:00:41 GMT
In fact all the MSM seems to be on side with the government ideology that the riots/demonstrations are caused by the "far Right". It's very strange reading an Op-ed in the Mail that talks about the "far Right" when in fact they're talking about a group of mainly working class people who want to control immigration. Even GB News and Talk seem to have started "self-censoring" and dialing down the rhetoric (except Kevin O'Sullivan and Alex Phillips of course).
Are journalists afraid of this government? It's a sad day if they are.
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Post by piglet on Aug 10, 2024 8:48:03 GMT
If there are no riots, demonstrations, whatever, the government wins. If there are riots, demonstrations, objections, etc, the government wins.
We are sinking into a western dictatorship whereby the needs of the population are ignored, and the needs of the world, imported from everywhere, are paramount.
The destruction of the Tories was planned. Britain will become a s hithole, crime is rampant, overcrowding, penury, ghettos, drugs, perversions, corruption.
My father was a ww2 vet, he voted red because of that, but we lived a Tory life, he made sure of that.
No debt, we behaved, we ate well, we worked hard, we had respect, law abiding, we went to church, excess in any way was frowned on, bad behaviour was punished there and then, not discussing owt, the left bullsh it. We had boundaries, not chaos, dad was in charge right or wrong.
No debt. Amazing isnt it, mortgage paid, money to spare, that is how britain should be run, not getting paid, then spending it instantly. My ex wife, when she got paid, most of it went on paying off debt.
Divorce. Liberalism is a cancer, hell bent on chaos and destruction, liberalism is feeding yout base instincts as soon as possible, its unleashing them, dont hold back, its animal. Conservatism not wanted here.
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 10, 2024 10:34:00 GMT
Spiked appears to be one of the last standing: Two-tier policing is not a myth - Identity politics is at the heart of modern British policing.
Honest people with at least a couple of braincells can't deny the fact that they're under a propaganda attack from the establishment that has destroyed all equality of the law for Soviet political purposes. All they have done is for themselves and has nothing to do with justice, which is why we're seeing kangaroo courts plastered all over the MSM. It's almost like the establishment is crapping itself.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 10, 2024 11:18:59 GMT
Spiked appears to be one of the last standing: Two-tier policing is not a myth - Identity politics is at the heart of modern British policing.
Honest people with at least a couple of braincells can't deny the fact that they're under a propaganda attack from the establishment that has destroyed all equality of the law for Soviet political purposes. All they have done is for themselves and has nothing to do with justice, which is why we're seeing kangaroo courts plastered all over the MSM. It's almost like the establishment is crapping itself.
It is Sovietisation of the West where truth is decided by government and not only must one accept lies but must repeat them when asked to. Information is not what is it is what government says it is and repeating truth itself can become a criminal act if it is likely to stir up hatred. A headline for Southport could be Black youth stabs over a dozen white children and adults with some dying. Would that be an acceptable headline to create, it would be true but would it stir up racial hatred? |
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Post by thomas on Aug 10, 2024 11:37:12 GMT
In fact all the MSM seems to be on side with the government ideology that the riots/demonstrations are caused by the "far Right". It's very strange reading an Op-ed in the Mail that talks about the "far Right" when in fact they're talking about a group of mainly working class people who want to control immigration. Even GB News and Talk seem to have started "self-censoring" and dialing down the rhetoric (except Kevin O'Sullivan and Alex Phillips of course). Are journalists afraid of this government? It's a sad day if they are. I think they are afraid. It's been said now for many years , in general we dont have journalists anymore just spreaders of propaganda. There are a few exceptions , but in the main they simply parrot official lines. Expect this to get worse under this current lot in power. people being charged with posting stuff on social media , freedom of speech curtailed , the party line being parroted by the lackeys in media etc. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 10, 2024 12:32:33 GMT
The thing that occurs to me is that the BBC has been disseminating lies for years. One recent example is that the BBC gave a platform for a proscribed terrorist organisation to say that Israel (IDF) had blown up a hospital in Gaza killing over 500 people. Jeremy Bowen reported this information as fact and it went round the world and increased the terrorist threat. The damaged it caused was unquantifiable.
But it was simply not true. The missile that damaged the hospital came from Hamas itself. And hardly anyone was killed. When Bowen was asked to apologise he refused. That's the BBC. And what happened. Nothing.
But under Starmer someone who retweeted the name of the person who had been arrested for the SOuthport attack - erroneously because it was probably Russian disinformation - was immediately arrested.
Two-tier policing.
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Post by thomas on Aug 10, 2024 12:40:30 GMT
The thing that occurs to me is that the BBC has been disseminating lies for years. One recent example is that the BBC gave a platform for a proscribed terrorist organisation to say that Israel (IDF) had blown up a hospital in Gaza killing over 500 people. Jeremy Bowen reported this information as fact and it went round the world and increased the terrorist threat. The damaged it caused was unquantifiable. But it was simply not true. The missile that damaged the hospital came from Hamas itself. And hardly anyone was killed. When Bowen was asked to apologise he refused. That's the BBC. And what happened. Nothing. But under Starmer someone who retweeted the name of the person who had been arrested for the SOuthport attack - erroneously because it was probably Russian disinformation - was immediately arrested. Two-tier policing. regarding the bbc lies , I first really came across this , back under the Salmond government and the war in Libya , when the bbc were parroting the narrative that al megrahi was on the run with Gaddafi . on another news channel on sky , I think it was the yank CNN , they were reporting megrahi laying on his deathbed with his elderly mother in tears holding his hand. I think it was John pilger who famously said the bbc are the most refined propaganda service in the entire world. they seem to have lost that finesse over the last decade if not more . this here is a great article , now more than a decade old , of the behaviour of auntie in scotland and the total control the Labour Party had over her.....
Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive: BBC Scotland and the Labour Party lenathehyena.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/oh-what-a-tangled-web-we-weave-when-first-we-practice-to-deceive-bbc-scotland-and-the-labour-party/ |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 5, 2024 10:05:13 GMT
In fact all the MSM seems to be on side with the government ideology that the riots/demonstrations are caused by the "far Right". It's very strange reading an Op-ed in the Mail that talks about the "far Right" when in fact they're talking about a group of mainly working class people who want to control immigration. Even GB News and Talk seem to have started "self-censoring" and dialing down the rhetoric (except Kevin O'Sullivan and Alex Phillips of course). Are journalists afraid of this government? It's a sad day if they are. The Mail is a part of the government, it's just you don't understand their game. They are responsible for helping introduce many fascist new laws. This is why I warn people agaisnt them. |
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Post by borchester on Sept 5, 2024 13:43:49 GMT
In fact all the MSM seems to be on side with the government ideology that the riots/demonstrations are caused by the "far Right". It's very strange reading an Op-ed in the Mail that talks about the "far Right" when in fact they're talking about a group of mainly working class people who want to control immigration. Even GB News and Talk seem to have started "self-censoring" and dialing down the rhetoric (except Kevin O'Sullivan and Alex Phillips of course). Are journalists afraid of this government? It's a sad day if they are. I think they are afraid. It's been said now for many years , in general we dont have journalists anymore just spreaders of propaganda. There are a few exceptions , but in the main they simply parrot official lines. Expect this to get worse under this current lot in power. people being charged with posting stuff on social media , freedom of speech curtailed , the party line being parroted by the lackeys in media etc. It could also be partly economic.
Newspaper circulations are declining and most online media relies on some very off line accounting to stay afloat. During the recent riots the MSM would have been expected to send a couple of reporters round to find out what was going on. But they may well not have been able to afford to do so. Instead they swallowed the government's line that the country was in the hands of nazi stormtroopers, rather than a bunch of vicious teens short of a few belts round the ear and a couple of drunken grannies.
Another odd thing, which may well be down to shortage of spoondollies rather than any sort of conspiracy, but I haven't seen any opinion polls since the election. I cant see the government increasing its popularity, particularly now that the coal allowance has been abolished and we will be replacing the Christmas turkey with bread and dripping, but the almost daily polls of the election campaign have disappeared.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 5, 2024 17:37:15 GMT
Bowen witnessed the Sabra and Shatilla massacres and was one of the first journalists on the scene.
42+ years out there has shaped his opinion.
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Post by borchester on Sept 5, 2024 18:19:30 GMT
Bowen witnessed the Sabra and Shatilla massacres and was one of the first journalists on the scene. 42+ years out there has shaped his opinion. That was in 1982.
What has that to do with the Daily Mail brown nosing the Labour party more than 40 years later ?
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Post by Vinny on Sept 5, 2024 18:28:42 GMT
Not a lot, just read his name earlier in this thread.
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 6, 2024 6:32:06 GMT
Bowen has gone "native" as they say. It's pretty obvious that he is pro-Palestinian.
But reading this thread a few weeks later the media have rapidly changed their mind about Starmer. The honeymoon period lasted less than a fortnight.
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Post by Rebirth on Sept 6, 2024 11:30:35 GMT
Spiked appears to be one of the last standing: Two-tier policing is not a myth - Identity politics is at the heart of modern British policing.
Honest people with at least a couple of braincells can't deny the fact that they're under a propaganda attack from the establishment that has destroyed all equality of the law for Soviet political purposes. All they have done is for themselves and has nothing to do with justice, which is why we're seeing kangaroo courts plastered all over the MSM. It's almost like the establishment is crapping itself.
It is Sovietisation of the West where truth is decided by government and not only must one accept lies but must repeat them when asked to. Information is not what is it is what government says it is and repeating truth itself can become a criminal act if it is likely to stir up hatred. A headline for Southport could be Black youth stabs over a dozen white children and adults with some dying. Would that be an acceptable headline to create, it would be true but would it stir up racial hatred? It never used to be this bad where discussion was at least possible. Today it's mainly echochambers, direct threats of legal action and extreme two-tier systems designed to benefit the oppressors. I detest our corrupt rulers.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 6, 2024 12:45:35 GMT
It is Sovietisation of the West where truth is decided by government and not only must one accept lies but must repeat them when asked to. Information is not what is it is what government says it is and repeating truth itself can become a criminal act if it is likely to stir up hatred. A headline for Southport could be Black youth stabs over a dozen white children and adults with some dying. Would that be an acceptable headline to create, it would be true but would it stir up racial hatred? It never used to be this bad where discussion was at least possible. Today it's mainly echochambers, direct threats of legal action and extreme two-tier systems designed to benefit the oppressors. I detest our corrupt rulers.
Fighting does not work. If two people are in a hostile argument then it makes them less intelligent. It's related to a syndrome called fight or flight. It goes back to our primitive past where an attack would be life-threatening, so evolution made us more resilient by switching the brain to a different mode. This mode of operation sacrifices intelligence for speed. It is accompanied by physiological changes like increased heart rate, more blood pumped around the system and more fat in the blood ready to feed the muscles at a moment's notice. Your brain switches to war mode. Now if we take this as a psychological fact (you can read the literature if you want) then going back to how the Mail riles people up and what I said about it being a necessary part of government to introduce bad and exploitative legislation directed against the constituent, it is clear there must be a way to stupefy the population before it is introduced to the House. They need to be primed first. |
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